CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #29 *ARREST*

[Herat]

I think the latter. “KB didn’t wanna come.....”, bet a ton of pics were taken.

Do you mean pix of PF with Baby K, supposedly after KB didn't want to attend, but really after PF had murdered her?

YIPES

 

[Trudie]

KK= her maiden name initials
KL= her married name initials
So why did she change her phone # on 11/26? Did she also
smash/lose her own phone? Or did LE politely request she
allow them to search it?

How or why did R learn she had a new #. Did they try to call her? Or did M just blurt out “guess what, my bff, KK, got a new phone #. You remember KK, my emotional/frightened former rodeo Queen?”
Getting a new # is a hassle, it’s like moving, imo. Do it as little as possible. What did KK accomplish by getting a new #? Did she change her house #, lol. “Instead of 000 Solicitee Lane, I’ll make my address 001 Solicitee Lane. Yes, now with a new phone & house #, I’m not the same person.” (Facetious, of course)

 

[NoeticSoul]

It sounds like there’s a lot going on in the little town of Hansen! Since I don’t go on FB, I think I’m missing some info., so I guess I’ll have to be patient until it comes out in an approved publication (fingers tapping loudly). This case is beyond frustrating, but most importantly because too many people were apparently harboring secrets that could have saved Kelsey's life. I know all the agencies are working as fast as they can to compile all the evidence, and I will treasure the day they nail everyone involved ... I need a Justice for Kelsey ribbon.

I feel that they are looking for the murder weapon, which I believe was also transported to Idaho, along with the purse and phone. MOO.

 

[Trudie]

Do you mean pix of PF with Baby K, supposedly after KB didn't want to attend, but really after PF had murdered her?

YIPES

Family din pix, sorry.

 

[Trudie]

imo They are doing more damage to their "business" than good by blabbing. moo smooth move exlax

@riolove77 commented, did you see her post, back a page or two?

 

[Herat]

I need a Justice for Kelsey ribbon.

I need a Justice for Kelsey emoji !!!

 

[NoeticSoul]

@riolove77 commented, did you see her post, back a page or two?

No I missed that!

 

[wsliz123]

It sounds like there’s a lot going on in the little town of Hansen! Since I don’t go on FB, I think I’m missing some info., so I guess I’ll have to be patient until it comes out in an approved publication (fingers tapping loudly). This case is beyond frustrating, but most importantly because too many people were apparently harboring secrets that could have saved Kelsey's life. I know all the agencies are working as fast as they can to compile all the evidence, and I will treasure the day they nail everyone involved ... I need a Justice for Kelsey ribbon.

Are there any out there?? Ribbons I mean

 

[Herat]

How or why did R learn she had a new #. Did they try to call her? Or did M just blurt out “guess what, my bff, KK, got a new phone #. You remember KK, my emotional/frightened former rodeo Queen?”
Getting a new # is a hassle, it’s like moving, imo. Do it as little as possible. What did KK accomplish by getting a new #? Did she change her house #, lol. “Instead of 000 Solicitee Lane, I’ll make my address 001 Solicitee Lane. Yes, now with a new phone & house #, I’m not the same person.” (Facetious, of course)

We desperately need a sarcasm font when dealing with the R's, BFF, and KK

Yeah. Why on earth would R's know her phone # had changed.....

The R's, BFF, and KK seem to have traded shovels for a large bucket loader for the hole they're digging for themselves

 

[PommyMommy]

Right. Why? I think a vehicle in the lot belongs to a player in the case.

Question 1) where were you T-giving day @appx noon-1
Answer) feeding cows.
Question 2) why is your vehicle in SW lot?
Answer) May I have some toilet tissue please?

I can think of no other reason to withhold footage other than to prevent a player from knowing they were captured on cctv. Can you? Anyone?

It would easily establish a player to be truthful or have something to hide, imo. There had to be a starting point.

BBM
It's simple reasoning. A front view of Kelsey entering the store vs. a back view of her leaving provided the best chance of someone recognizing her. How is someone going to recognize her by seeing the back of her head? MOO

Still way behind.

 

[NoeticSoul]

We desperately need a sarcasm font when dealing with the R's, BFF, and KK

Yeah. Why on earth would R's know her phone # had changed.....

The R's, BFF, and KK seem to have traded shovels for a large bucket loader for the hole they're digging for themselves

If they know ALL of these little details a long while ago, then WHY NOT come forward and do the right thing?! JEBUS.

 

[Kapua]

I don’t think KB was expecting PF at noon(ish) on Thanksgiving Day, for several reasons:

1) If she was expecting him to pick up only the baby, she would have waited until after that to go to Safeway. It’s way easier to shop without a baby in tow.

2) If she was expecting him to pick up both herself and the baby, she would have already been “around,” hair fixed, etc.

3) If she was expecting him over for a casual Thanksgiving lunch together at home, she would have done her shopping earlier in the day.

I don’t think she was expecting PF at that time of day. Maybe she was expecting him later in the afternoon or evening, or maybe she wasn’t expecting him at all. I suppose he could have contacted her unexpectedly that morning, which facilitated a quick trip to Safeway, in prep for unexpected company or lunch plans. But I don’t think a noon-time visit, dinner, or baby pick-up was pre-planned for that day. MOO

And 4) CB said that KB had plans to go to dinner with PF, not lunch.

 

[Emb72]

Right. But why did she not drive straight to the local police dept., once she arrived in CO. Idk, I’m guessing an officer would have been thrilled to drive her to pick up the phone from a murderer?
Another thing, if she’s really petrified, why stop at Sonic! I mean, the next exit probably has fast food too.
Idk. Speculating.

Right???? "I'm so scared for my life and the life of my children but gosh dangit choking down a greasy cheeseburger sounds gooood"....I ain't buying anything the R's are saying about KK. Nope!

 

[missy1974]

How or why did R learn she had a new #. Did they try to call her? Or did M just blurt out “guess what, my bff, KK, got a new phone #. You remember KK, my emotional/frightened former rodeo Queen?”
Getting a new # is a hassle, it’s like moving, imo. Do it as little as possible. What did KK accomplish by getting a new #? Did she change her house #, lol. “Instead of 000 Solicitee Lane, I’ll make my address 001 Solicitee Lane. Yes, now with a new phone & house #, I’m not the same person.” (Facetious, of course)

What will be more interesting is if she gave her new # to PF, considering she was fearful ;-)

 

[Trudie]

I don't think it was an article about it- it just looked like an article. One of the posters, was describing in depth, the number of cars that pass through certain intersections etc. how many cars LE would have to look at to identify her car etc. It was more of an informational article with the poster saying that police were probably doing this- it sounded like early on and matching it to cars in idaho near gooding. That may be how they found their link. Who knows there were easier ways to find that link to idaho in my opinion. LOL

Oh, tysm. Maybe that’s why I couldn’t find it at 5 a.m., lol.
The last I heard the vehicle at Sonic we assumed KK was in, was the wrong vehicle. I’m curious what she drove.
Was she clever enough to borrow a car? Knowing her car is not on video? Moot point tho, the cc at Sonic puts her there.

 

[Trudie]

What will be more interesting is if she gave her new # to PF, considering she was fearful ;-)

Yes, who was the recipient of her first text or outgoing call?
Bff, PF?

 

[NoeticSoul]

What will be more interesting is if she gave her new # to PF, considering she was fearful ;-)

Oh I'm sure she did. That IS interesting!

 

[mcrazingwill]

@Trudie, I read your post in a previous thread about border collies. Thank you, it was very interesting.

I have a very specific question. Some dogs have very strange appetite. I have mostly observed it in Golden retrievers and Labs, but heard about other dogs, too. Basically, some of them (not all) share the genes that make humans alcoholics - their food needs to be restricted, otherwise they will eat and eat. They also may eat quite inedible stuff (the most dramatic story I heard was about a dog eating a ring).

My question is about border collies. Have you met any with such peculiarities of appetite - eating a lot, overeating and being quite indiscriminate in their food choices?

I have two Border Collies of my own so I will weigh in. The breed in general is known to be light eaters. My BC's will walk away from their bowls after a few bites and go back hours later to eat a few more bites, we've never had to restrict their food intake. I can leave food on the coffee table and leave the room without them even considering to touch it.

In general, BC's are very intelligent, have a drive to work/herd and an innate need to please. There is no off button. I swear our girl sleeps with one eye open, at 8 years old shes still always ready to go.

I saw the videos of PF with his dogs and while I don't agree with his tactics, his dogs are working dogs. My dogs are pets, there is a difference in how they are trained. For instance, our boy came from farm working parents. He has a much stronger urge to herd/work than our older girl who came from suburban family parents.

 

[Trudie]

Thanks Herat.

 

[PommyMommy]

I'm a couple days behind on KB's thread. I've been celebrating on the Jayme Closs thread. I've seen numerous posts by you where you are strongly and repeatedly suggesting KK is really the main culprit and PF the poor wittle cowboy who is the victim of the all-powerful Rodeo Queen. Can you lay out the scenario of how you believe KK committed this murder and framed PF?

Me too, what a glorious surprise! Now, what in the world is going on here, lol? I would like to hear this scenario too. Sounds interesting.
MOO