CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #29 *ARREST*

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  • #901
I don’t think that KK is innocent by any means but painting her as the mastermind and the only one with a clear motive just reeks of misogyny to me.

If we are going to dismiss rumors about PF (mistreatment of animals, hot temper, etc.) because they aren’t facts, then we can’t invent a narrative where KK is so desperate to have him that she went to lengths to eliminate her competition.

Most likely scenario to me is they are both guilty whether at different levels of involvement or not.
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  • #902
IMO, the only thing that could possibly be more painful than losing your loved one would have to be knowing how many people could have prevented that loss.

Yes, and hearing them act like heroes on TV for being “whistleblowers” while in reality, they just blindsided the family and are saying they could have prevented KB’s murder? Just....omg. I can’t type what I really think, but it’s the lowest of low to an already hurting family.
 
  • #903
Do you think it was a planned custody switch for the baby to be with PF over the holiday weekend?

I find this interesting. If the baby spent a large amount of time with the father, as I have heard, why couldn't he have bought the items for the baby? Did he not have items at his house already?
 
  • #904
Why do people find it hard to believe that KK would have called her bff (the law office employee) and told her KK was missing on Nov 26th? <modsnip>

1. She used her credit card at Woodland Park Sonic on Thanksgiving weekend.
(The Sonic manager makes interesting comments in Woodland Park Underground FB comments.)

2. She drove Kelsey's stolen phone within 30 minutes of her own home in Idaho and pinged it.

I agree. I think the dates are likely correct.
 
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  • #905
So if I understand correctly, this is suggesting the R's had knowledge of KB missing before it was announced in the media? The B Family didn't raise the alarm until Dec 2nd when they had a welfare check done. Supposedly PF and Doss aviation got the infamous text messages saying she was going to be gone for a week on Nov 25th so who would have known she was missing??

Am I getting this right?
You are getting that right. That is the perception being created by the second installment of the interview. If that stands then the R's, BFF, and possibly others in the Twin Falls area all knew about Kelsey missing at least 6 days prior to KB's family and law enforcement learning of it.

I don't believe it. But YMMV.
 
  • #906
So if I understand correctly, this is suggesting the R's had knowledge of KB missing before it was announced in the media? The B Family didn't raise the alarm until Dec 2nd when they had a welfare check done. Supposedly PF and Doss aviation got the infamous text messages saying she was going to be gone for a week on Nov 25th so who would have known she was missing??

Am I getting this right?

Yes. Based on the dates in part 2 of their interview. That's been a topic of discussion: are the dates provided accurate and if so, how could they know KB was missing before her family alerted LE.

ETA: $&@! website reloaded while typing. Several times
 
  • #907
I find this interesting. If the baby spent a large amount of time with the father, as I have heard, why couldn't he have bought the items for the baby? Did he not have items at his house already?

Well on one hand, you would think that the parent that was spending less time with the baby would do more financially to help, so maybe their set up was that KB would provide diapers and snacks. On the other hand, you would think that if CB was off work for the holiday weekend that she would have the baby for those days.
 
  • #908
Yes. Based on the dates in part 2 of their interview. That's been a topic of discussion: are the dates provided accurate and if so, how could they know KB was missing before h
They knew Kelsey was missing because KK told her bff that Kelsey was missing. The bff then approached her employer (the Rs) and said 'that person, she's missing, she's also a pilot.'

Part Two: Twin Falls couple discusses tough call to FBI
 
  • #909
You are getting that right. That is the perception being created by the second installment of the interview. If that stands then the R's, BFF, and possibly others in the Twin Falls area all knew about Kelsey missing at least 6 days prior to KB's family and law enforcement learning of it.

I don't believe it. But YMMV.
Omgeeee, than if this is correct how it stands why in the world aren't the whole lot of them the R's, and the employee, being interrogated by LE. IMO
 
  • #910
It's unknown if they knew Kelsey's name. They knew the missing woman was the same woman KK had been solicited to kill.



On November 26th, Michelle came to Patty and said 'that person, she's missing, she's also a pilot.
Part Two: Twin Falls couple discusses tough call to FBI
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So, M goes to the R's and says 'that person, she's missing, she's also a pilot.' How convenient to throw in there that KB is a pilot. Was M trying to infer that Kelsey probably took off? Thereby bolstering PF's lies that she was prone to take off? Snakes. All of them!
 
  • #911
Yes. Based on the dates in part 2 of their interview. That's been a topic of discussion: are the dates provided accurate and if so, how could they know KB was missing before h

Dates confirmed with Media outlet. Jethro double confirming it.
They said they knew through FB- mainstream FB not possible but possibly postings from kk or employee Omg, Kk says PF's gf is missing. Seems like it would be an insanely ridiculous thing to do but so does telling your BF that you have been solicited to kill someone and then helping out.
Or the employee came into the office and said omg, i heard that woman is missing (more likely)
or
The R's are all over the place with dates and what happened due to stress or senile dementia

Guess we will see
 
  • #912
With all the commotion that has occurred since the last article was released, I'd think the very vocal Rs would make or publish a statement to correct the dates if incorrect. The fact that they haven't tells me the dates are correct.

Exactly! Are the date inconsistencies being pointed out elsewhere other than WS? FB? Twitter? MSM?
 
  • #913
Omgeeee, than if this is correct how it stands why in the world aren't the whole lot of them the R's, and the employee, being interrogated by LE. IMO

There is no question in my mind that the BFF would have been interrogated by LE, not sure about the R's because they aren't a direct source and they have the direct source, but maybe.
 
  • #914
Very interesting. Thank you. I read that BC were one of the highest-intellect breeds.

A couple of years ago, a BC won 'Britain's Got Talent'.
How smart!.
The final was great.
The owner was acting as a Police Officer, and the BC showed some remarkable tricks.
 
  • #915
Dates confirmed with Media outlet. Jethro double confirming it.
They said they knew through FB- mainstream FB not possible but possibly postings from kk or employee Omg, Kk says PF's gf is missing. Seems like it would be an insanely ridiculous thing to do but so does telling your BF that you have been solicited to kill someone and then helping out.
Or the employee came into the office and said omg, i heard that woman is missing (more likely)
or
The R's are all over the place with dates and what happened due to stress or senile dementia

Guess we will see
Just pointing out that I am in the process of confirming the story. I will publish my correspondence (after checking with mods) with the answer(s) when or if I get any.
 
  • #916
Why do people find it hard to believe that KK would have called her bff (the law office employee) and told her KK was missing on Nov 26th? <modsnip>

1. She used her credit card at Woodland Park Sonic on Thanksgiving weekend.
(The Sonic manager makes interesting comments in Woodland Park Underground FB comments.)

2. She drove Kelsey's stolen phone within 30 minutes of her own home in Idaho and pinged it.
I'm not doubting what you're saying, what I'm saying is if there isn't an error made by either the R's or the TV Station, somebody has some major explaining to do. That is an admission of guilt on KK's part. How would she know something that nobody knows? And the BFF should be answering to LE right along side of her. IMO

ETA: IMO
 
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  • #917
Dates confirmed with Media outlet. Jethro double confirming it.
They said they knew through FB- mainstream FB not possible but possibly postings from kk or employee Omg, Kk says PF's gf is missing. Seems like it would be an insanely ridiculous thing to do but so does telling your BF that you have been solicited to kill someone and then helping out.
Or the employee came into the office and said omg, i heard that woman is missing (more likely)
or
The R's are all over the place with dates and what happened due to stress or senile dementia

Guess we will see

Right. I was just confirming that girlhasnoname was correct. :).
 
  • #918
I hope this is not a trend

Oxygen headline
couple claims that Idaho nurse was taken advantage of by Kelsey Berreth’s fiancé”

And

“Patrick Frazee had hold over nurse in Kelsey Berreth case”, couple claims”

Nothing new, just misleading click bait headlines. And Oxygen isn’t the most reliable place around, but I sure hope others don’t blindly follow that tactic. Deflecting.

MOO
 
  • #919
I'm not doubting what you're saying, what I'm saying is if there isn't an error made by either the R's or the TV Station, somebody has some major explaining to do. That is an admission of guilt on KK's part. How would she know something that nobody knows? And the BFF should be answering to LE right along side of her.
Exactly. If she was supplying information that know one else knew concerning Kelsey missing and there are obviously people that can testify to that then why hasn't she been charged already? Makes no sense to me.
 
  • #920
Could it be that on Nov. 26th, employee says to the Rs "that woman is missing/pilot/etc." and then after R woman sees the stuff on facebook/tv (12/2 12/3 timeframe), approaches employee and asks if this is the missing woman/gives ultimatum? That would reconcile the dates issue and allow for "two weeks later" when the Rs reported what they knew to the FBI.

Maybe the employee presented herself as an embellisher and a bit dramatic. Maybe they didn't realize the grave severity of everything until the media/facebook explosion and the alignment of their employees tales with what they were seeing in the media.
 
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