CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #29 *ARREST*

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  • #161
We lived in CO, little bit more eastern, close (very close) to another case recently. It was a pretty well known secret in our area, and further west. Heck, even into other states. Susan Powell for example.

OT I've always thought that is where Susan Powell could be found.. in a mine shaft or a cave. I hope they find her body someday so her family can lay her to rest finally.
 
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Sorry, I didn't see this article when I read back. If it was posted before, then I apologize.

Patrick Frazee threatened to hurt daughters of Idaho nurse involved in Kelsey Berreth murder investigation; Krystal Lee believed Frazee may have killed before: Report

The couple believes that Frazee asked Lee three times to murder Berreth, and also asked her to help dispose potential evidence, allegedly threatening her.

“Patrick told Krystal that little girls go missing off the playground all the time,” Patty told CBS News.

“Krystal was so scared, he was so angry that he said things that made Krystal think he had killed before,” Joe said.
 
  • #164
So the R couple was told about a Patrick soliciting a murder 3 times and also threatening the solicitee's (is that a word?) children? And they still did not pick up the phone? SMH.
 
  • #165
So the R couple was told about a Patrick soliciting a murder 3 times and also threatening the solicitee's (is that a word?) children? And they still did not pick up the phone? SMH.

Yep and even that PF said things to KK that made her think he had killed before...
 
  • #166
The law group couple going to the media is truly perplexing IMO...I mean going on the local news to spread hearsay is only going to invite more harrassment.
Also, I'm trying to put myself in their shoes and having a hard time. I would feel completely guilty that I knew something about the murder beforehand and took little to no action. And because of that I wouldn't want to do anything that would potentially compromise the investigation or case.
I'm not saying they are, but I just would want to make sure that the persons responsible for KB's death are brought to justice. I wouldn't want to hinder that in any way...so stepping out in the spotlight to do an interview would be one of the farthest things from my mind to be helpful.
There were so many selfish, entitled people that surrounded KB. If any of them had the capacity to stop thinking about their own needs, feelings and desires, KB would still be here today.
(And of course I don't mean the Berreth's!)
 
  • #167
So the R couple was told about a Patrick soliciting a murder 3 times and also threatening the solicitee's (is that a word?) children? And they still did not pick up the phone? SMH.

Mind blowing isn't it?
 
  • #168
L3 Technologies (Doss Aviation) has had her position posted on their website since December 10, 2018. It clearly states that there is 10% travel required.
I'm not locked into the concept that PF should have reported KB missing before CB.
 
  • #169
This is getting crazier every day
 
  • #170
Do we know he only rec’d one text or did LE only provide us with info on one text, to not reveal TOO much?
AFAIK, the text might have been a “dear John” text.

Let’s assume P did murder KB, then left with the baby.
What earthly reason did he have to involve KK? A woman petrified of him? To frame her? Might it been safer to dispose the phone himself? Rather than explain to someone he had murdered his one time gf, the mother of his child. What if he relied on KK to pick up the phone in CO & she had an accident & never made it? Hmmmm.
Would he then reach out to a friend in Texas or Pennsylvania, forcing them to CO?
This is ultra perplexing.
 
  • #171
So the R couple was told about a Patrick soliciting a murder 3 times and also threatening the solicitee's (is that a word?) children? And they still did not pick up the phone? SMH.
I'm not buying the story.
 
  • #172
Should I ever commit a crime, I hope my bestie has my back & incriminates an old flame of mine. The gravy would be a friend working for an atty. Delicious.
 
  • #173
L3 Technologies (Doss Aviation) has had her position posted on their website since December 10, 2018. It clearly states that there is 10% travel required.
I'm not locked into the concept that PF should have reported KB missing before CB.

All that demonstrates to me is that it possibly bought PF time to dispose, it was a Holiday after all. moo
 
  • #174
Sorry, I didn't see this article when I read back. If it was posted before, then I apologize.

Patrick Frazee threatened to hurt daughters of Idaho nurse involved in Kelsey Berreth murder investigation; Krystal Lee believed Frazee may have killed before: Report

The couple believes that Frazee asked Lee three times to murder Berreth, and also asked her to help dispose potential evidence, allegedly threatening her.

“Patrick told Krystal that little girls go missing off the playground all the time,” Patty told CBS News.

“Krystal was so scared, he was so angry that he said things that made Krystal think he had killed before,” Joe said.

Horrible. Absolutely horrible to live in such fear. How does one muster the moxie to drive hundreds of miles under such duress?
Poor thing.
Wonder if she ever entertained driving directly to the local police department & asking an officer to escort her to retrieve the phone?

........thinking
 
  • #175
L3 Technologies (Doss Aviation) has had her position posted on their website since December 10, 2018. It clearly states that there is 10% travel required.
I'm not locked into the concept that PF should have reported KB missing before CB.
I saw that earlier. I also noticed that the qualifications for the
position seemed to me to be far more stringent and for much more experience than what KB had. ie- military background wanted.
I still believe she was hired as an instructor trainee/intern.
 
  • #176
I saw that earlier. I also noticed that the qualifications for the
position seemed to me to be far more stringent and much more experience than what KB had. ie- military background wanted.
I still believe she was hired as an instructor trainee/intern.

Is there not an article explaining her position as that of a classroom instructor. Moo
 
  • #177
Just watched the CBS interview with Rs. What stuck out to me was the Rs going back and forth between KK being both afraid and in love. They even ended it with something to the effect, people do things for love. I thought she did it because she was afraid. (Side eye face)

They also confirmed that KK had KB phone, did I hear that correctly?

This takes me back to the fact that the arrest warrant was sealed out of safety of a witness. People said this was not common. Feels to me like KK is orchestrating this safety narrative. I know I’m being vague but I guess I’ll just say that Trudi really has me thinking lol. I guess if I actually knew what evidence they had against PF, I could provide a better opinion.

MOO

Just too dang confusing. Was KK in love or in fear of her life?
 
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  • #178
I don’t care if PF painted Kelsey as a monster.

I don’t care if PF threatened KK.

She was atleast partially complicit in all of this. She could have stopped this plot dead in its tracks.

She certainly didn’t have to aid in the murder of a mother.

And as an aside, how the hell does Kelsey being a threat to her child jibe with “I will hurt your children if you don’t help!?”

So “Kelsey is dangerous but so am I?”

Alrighty then.

Total BS.
 
  • #179
L3 Technologies (Doss Aviation) has had her position posted on their website since December 10, 2018. It clearly states that there is 10% travel required.
I'm not locked into the concept that PF should have reported KB missing before CB.
be real simple for LE to contact Doss and ask about any company travel that KB took. be even simpler for Doss to contact LE and explain if there was any. Also be possible for LE to get bank/cc/debit etc. records to see if KB ever did "run off" as PF states.
 
  • #180
Sadly, KK had no choice. She was “forced” to follow P’s commands, is my interpretation from msm reports.
That's horse manuer. MOO
 
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