CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #3

[MyBelle]

If you put yourself in the mom's shoes, you have hope, and you just want people to get the word out and try to find her (alive). It might be that the mom doesn't want people to just say "Oh, she's gone and so-and-so did it", and therefore not help out in trying to find her. That's my take on it, anyway.

ITA. KB's family just wants this nightmare to be over. JMO

 

[CDB]

Considering that he has the child and is taking care of her, it's safe to say she is not in any danger.

If the police had any inkling that she was, im sure they would remove her.

Jmo

That was unfortunately not the case in the Susan Powell case. Our laws are set to respect individual rights and with out due process the police would be unable to remove the child from a parent with guardianship rights.

Sorry just watched that case on the ID last night.

 

[PommyMommy]

Usually in cases like this, I’m very confident in what I think happened, one way or another.

This one is different for me.

If foul play happened, then I’m looking at one place.

Nothing is right about the behavior there, and I find it incredibly unsettling.

That being said, something is not adding up for me as to the overall picture of KG. I feel like we are in the dark about some things, and there may be ingredients there that lend themselves to an alternative explanation, one that does not involve foul play.

It’s hard to get past the strange behavior of the fiancé, and that damn ping is very intriguing.

But I’m not absolutely sold as to what I think happened, as strange behavior doesn’t necessarily mean that foul play occurred, and a particular person is responsible for it.

Whichever way this goes, I wouldn’t be very surprised.

I just hope we get some clarity soon, and an answer eventually.

This may or may not help, but try taking PF completely out of the equation and consider only the circumstances of KB’s disappearance:

She has a 1-year-old baby, her cars are at her home, her luggage is there, none of her things were packed – not even her toothbrush, she always told her mom her plan if she went somewhere, she texted her job to say she’d be off for a week, cinnamon rolls on the counter, her mother said she had plans for dinner on 11/22, her family said there is no chance of drug abuse…

 

[MassGuy]

Maybe she left a note and it's likely that information would never be released to the public.

I don’t think there is a note, but I definitely get the feeling that there is information there that the family doesn’t want us to know.

I think they are saying “focus on getting the word out to find her,” as opposed to “don’t dig in to her personal life.”

 

[Kapua]

The vibe I've gotten all along is that most of her family and the police do not want help solving anything. Just share her image and move along. They don't seem to want much digging done by others

This could be due to the involvement of the FBI. Perhaps the agency has told everyone to let them handle it.

 

[moreofless]

Unless he felt the phone vibrate as it got reception and then the perp quickly turned off phone.

I know if I have my phone on mute then it will vibrate if i get a text message or phone call to the phone.

But it does not do anything when it pings.

 

[MyBelle]

Maybe she left a note and it's likely that information would never be released to the public.

If she left a note there would have been no need for the Nov. 25 texts/ping. JMO

 

[Kapua]

This may or may not help, but try taking PF completely out of the equation and consider only the circumstances of KB’s disappearance:

She has a 1-year-old baby, her cars are at her home, her luggage is there, none of her things were packed – not even her toothbrush, she always told her mom her plan if she went somewhere, she texted her job to say she’d be off for a week, cinnamon rolls on the counter, her mother said she had plans for dinner on 11/22, her family said there is no chance of drug abuse…

I know what that says to me. It says that KB did not plan to be away for long.

 

[MassGuy]

This may or may not help, but try taking PF completely out of the equation and consider only the circumstances of KB’s disappearance:

She has a 1-year-old baby, her cars are at her home, her luggage is there, none of her things were packed – not even her toothbrush, she always told her mom her plan if she went somewhere, she texted her job to say she’d be off for a week, cinnamon rolls on the counter, her mother said she had plans for dinner on 11/22, her family said there is no chance of drug abuse…

Oh I’m absolutely leaning foul play, but I simply don’t have the confidence that I had in other cases.

For instance:

I was positive that Mollie Tibbetts had been kidnapped and was murdered.

I was positive that Chris Watts killed his entire family and his story was BS.

I’m just not positive of anything here.

 

[oviedo]

That was unfortunately not the case in the Susan Powell case. Our laws are set to respect individual rights and with out due process the police would be unable to remove the child from a parent with guardianship rights.

Sorry just watched that case on the ID last night.

I did as well. I wish for this to have a better outcome but after Susan, Laci, Michelle, Mollie, Jayme - it doesn't feel like it will. Very sad

 

[Ccging]

Newbie here so forgive me if this may have been asked or answered previously, and I know there are ALOT of unknowns in this case, but why are they not organizing a search party where her phone pinged?? As a mom I’d want that area searched. They can narrow it down to a 1 mile radius, why not at least check the area?

 

[BayouBelle_LA]

If she left a note there would have been no need for the Nov. 25 texts/ping. JMO

I guess it would depend on what the note said.

 

[PrairieWind]

Maybe she left a note and it's likely that information would never be released to the public.

I have sort of wondered about this. That maybe she left something or there is some piece of evidence/information that LE has that leads them to believe she was not abducted. This would also fit in with the police statement that there is no danger to the community.

 

[oviedo]

I know what that says to me. It says that KB did not plan to be away for long.

Agree

 

[MassGuy]

Newbie here so forgive me if this may have been asked or answered previously, and I know there are ALOT of unknowns in this case, but why are they not organizing a search party where her phone pinged?? As a mom I’d want that area searched. They can narrow it down to a 1 mile radius, why not at least check the area?

My feeling is that they think this ping came along the route to the destination, but wasn’t the destination.

That area should still be searched though, and perhaps it has.

 

[moreofless]

I don't know about anybody else, but the comment I bolded seems awfully strange to me.
JMO

Mother of missing Colorado mom speaks out on daughter's disappearance

The couple, who do not live together, have a strong bond, said Cheryl Berreth, who lives in Idaho but has been staying in Colorado during the investigation.

"The relationship has been good. They're loving," she said.

She said she doesn't find the speculation circulating helpful to the case.

"Don't try to figure this out – we've got people trying to do that. Just share the photo There's more important things to be done," she said.

I could understand how people dealing with a missing loved one could find speculation disconcerting. Law enforcement will go about solving this situation in a professional, methodical way.

 

[slashkiss]

My personal opinion is that KB's family is absolutely terrified that whoever may have "disappeared" KB can easily do something to the baby. The family is very instant that everyone stop trying to solve or speculate on anything regarding the disappearance ... they are seemingly asking for the public to share her picture but not really "help" in any way. I feel they are walking on egg shells and probably paralyzed by the fear that a certain someone might get backed into a corner by the Media/Public before LE is able to act and that baby could disappear just as easily as KB.

 

[SandyQLS]

I can't catch up!

Flightaware indicates that FedEx does fly in/out of Gooding, ID. Type "Gooding" select "GNG"

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Does someone have a POB, friend, piece of land with just a mailbox out in Gooding?

It could be that KB's phone pinged along the driving route or elsewhere, and LE is withholding that info. It seems per LE that her phone pinged in Woodland Park ---> then Gooding.

 

[Seattle1]

Were the texts actually sent FROM Idaho? Or, is Idaho only mentioned because her phone "pinged" there when they tried to locate the phone after she was reported missing?

I guess what I'm asking is, could she have sent the texts to PF and to her POE while still in CO and somehow her phone (and perhaps her purse) ended up in Idaho?

Entirely possible. I haven't read anything that says they were or were not sent from Idaho. Speculation.

thank you so much! this has really bothered me - the Sunday ping was between 5pm and 5:30-ID time - and just the one ping or the "false ping" - I think if they can solve this - it will be a break in the case IMO. If they have her cell phone records now (I seem to recall it takes a couple weeks to get them via a subpoena) they will know the numbers she was calling, who was calling her, and what transpired between 11/22 and the last known texts/calls etc. They won't need the phone to do this. I can login to verizon and see all of that and can also get the text message contents if I promise they aren't used in litigation.

We have not been told. All we know is that the last ping was on the 25th in Idaho.

I'm sure police know, but they are not saying if it pinged in other places prior to that. They are also not sharing where the phone was when the texts were sent.

Upon confirmation of the date/time stamp of each text message transmission, and the date time of Idaho cell tower ping, we will know where these text messages originated from.

This information is readily available from the service provider, and whenever LE releases this info, we will have our answer. Also, be reminded that Colorado Open Records Act (CORA) provides that the public will eventually have access to much of the information being questioned here so rest assured you'll get your answers here. MOO

 

[MyBelle]

I don't know about anybody else, but the comment I bolded seems awfully strange to me.
JMO

Mother of missing Colorado mom speaks out on daughter's disappearance

The couple, who do not live together, have a strong bond, said Cheryl Berreth, who lives in Idaho but has been staying in Colorado during the investigation.

"The relationship has been good. They're loving," she said.

She said she doesn't find the speculation circulating helpful to the case.

"Don't try to figure this out – we've got people trying to do that. Just share the photo There's more important things to be done," she said.

That tells me they have a good idea what happened and the goal now is to find her. This case reminds me so much of the incredibly sad case of Susan Powell.