CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #30 *ARREST*

[mrstfs]

I do see your point, but I just don't believe LE got it that wrong. YET. I'm more inclined to believe they were in it together, not that he "loved" KK. Narcs love themselves. MOO, and no, he has not officially been diagnosed as such. Most narcs are never diagnosed, they just go through life destroying the lives of others.

I tend to agree with you. I’m thinking this case isn’t very complex after all.

 

[The Farm]

I think what he allegedly said about "little girls going missing from the playground" was just an expression he may have used to threaten KK and implying that she could go missing (if it's even true and he really did say it to her). I didn't take it as a threat against any of her children. JMO.[/QUOT

Exactly, if it's even true that he really did say that.

Right now I am taking most of what she has said lightly.

 

[susiQ]

From the last clip on KKTV (Jan 11th): "We're told that she's being questioned by detectives and she is cooperating."

Idaho couple shares more on why they went to authorities in Kelsey Berreth case

Cooperating doesn't necessarily mean she's telling them the "truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth."

 

[Kapua]

Love triangle. It's a tale as old as time.
MOO

KK and PF didn't even live in the same state. They were 11.5 - 12 hours apart. Both were somewhat tied to the land they lived on. What possible kind of future could they have been planning? People keep posting that KB might have taken the baby and moved back to ID or WA had he broken up with her. Maybe it was PF who wanted to move to ID to raise horses and/or dogs with KK. MOO

 

[Esma]

Cooperating doesn't necessarily mean she's telling them the "truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth."

And PF’s atty said the same. We don’t know who told the news she was cooperating with LE.

 

[enelram]

No way do I believe that PF was scheduled to have Baby K that holiday/holiday weeekend, no way, no how.

That was just the right time for him after months of talk and probably planning.

Totally agree w/ you. I believe he called her and strung her along
about wanting to see her and/or baby and gave some vague mention of dinner later and/or going to get a Christmas tree.
He just wanted to make sure she'd be there for his plan.
That's why she was vague to her mother, she really wasn't sure what was up.
I believe KB was a "get along" type gal and didn't want to make
waves w/ him. He set her up to be in the home then came
over to do the deed.

 

[Aydrianna523]

I tend to agree with you. I’m thinking this case isn’t very complex after all.

Yes. The only thing I think that might complicate it is if KK gets immunity. (That's assuming she's guilty).

 

[KSinMT]

Thank you. I tried to state that too yesterday, several times. And yet one of the pinned posts at the top of the thread emphasizes that the NOV 25 date was all over the news articles from Dec 2-6. It just leads to more confusion. It’s important that we know what we know, and also what we don’t know. Otherwise speculation becomes probability and probability becomes fact and we state it as such when it really isn’t.

Exactly. I've been in serveral arguments with people over that date of the welfare check and I think the media just got confused in the beginning because the texts were sent out to her employer and PF along with the phone ping on the 25th. LEs timeline says nothing about a welfare check on the 25th and it doesn't make any sense to wait another week to do a missing persons report. Some people want to take what is said in the media about that date as fact but I think most of us who have been following this case closely can agree there has been no shortage of inaccurate reporting on this case. JMO

 

[Herat]

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[Sweetsbeach]

No way do I believe that PF was scheduled to have Baby K that holiday/holiday weeekend, no way, no how.

That was just the right time for him after months of talk and probably planning.

I agree. Poor KB thought she and baby K would go out to dinner with PF like she told her mom. Then he shows up early and...
Then PF says he was only there to do an exchange to pick up the baby...
Poor CB must have felt sick hearing that...especially when her daughter said nothing about leaving and PF said she was going to Idaho. It's terrible. I hope the evidence LE has nails PF to the wall.

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

From the last clip on KKTV (Jan 11th): "We're told that she's being questioned by detectives and she is cooperating."

Idaho couple shares more on why they went to authorities in Kelsey Berreth case

Cooperating,or covering her hide ala Karla Homolka? MOO.

 

[susiQ]

Exactly, if it's even true that he really did say that.

Right now I am taking most of what she has said lightly.

And with a sack load of salt

 

[Lhughessk]

Exactly. I've been in serveral arguments with people over that date of the welfare check and I think the media just got confused in the beginning because the texts were sent out to her employer and PF along with the phone ping on the 25th. LEs timeline says nothing about a welfare check on the 25th and it doesn't make any sense to wait another week to do a missing persons report. Some people want to take what is said in the media about that date as fact but I think most of us who have been following this case closely can agree there has been no shortage of inaccurate reporting on this case.

Right, and it really only takes a little common sense to realize that IF CB had asked LE to do a welfare check on 11/25, and they found no sign of her, she would have asked if KB’s vehicles were there. Being told that they were both there, she would have filed the missing person report that day rather than waiting a week.

 

[PommyMommy]

From the last clip on KKTV (Jan 11th): "We're told that she's being questioned by detectives and she is cooperating."

Idaho couple shares more on why they went to authorities in Kelsey Berreth case

Welcome to Websleuths, indicolite22. Thank you for joining us.

 

[Esma]

So even if KK and PF wanted to get together and be jolly ranchers, why the need to murder KB? For custody alone seems a stretch. Couldn’t he just break it off and settle for visitation? Unless he and KK had some million dollar horse breeding plans and he didn’t want to pay child support based on his income potentials.

 

[Herat]

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[susiQ]

And never really understanding why relationships "always seem to fall apart on them", because it's always someone else's fault.

And they never get cured, nor do they want to be cured. The high they get from the capture, the control, the behaviour after they degrade or dump someone is never enough.

They're not all murderers. They just love to destroy and control something in other people to boost their inner tiny fearful self.

And, even if the victim finds the strength and courage to break free and walk away, the narc isn't finished with them. They will continue to inflect themselves into the victims life, always taking another stab when the opportunity arises. Of course, MOO.

 

[KSinMT]

Right, and it really only takes a little common sense to realize that IF CB had asked LE to do a welfare check on 11/25, and they found no sign of her, she would have asked if KB’s vehicles were there. Being told that they were both there, she would have filed the missing person report that day rather than waiting a week.

Unless LE confirms a welfare check on the 25th, I'm sticking with the 2nd as the first time CB made contact with police, which is the date their own timeline says about when a welfare check was conducted and she was found to not be home. One media source probably got the dates confused in the beginning, then several others ran with it. MOO.

 

[Lhughessk]

From the last clip on KKTV (Jan 11th): "We're told that she's being questioned by detectives and she is cooperating."

Idaho couple shares more on why they went to authorities in Kelsey Berreth case

Yes, and for those who are saying “the same was said about PF”, there was never a point where the phrase “being questioned by detectives” was used by LE regarding PF. Even though he had an attorney and he and the attorney could have sat down with LE at any time.

The fact that she is “being questioned by detectives” either with or without an attorney, is a level of cooperation that is different from PF.

 

[enelram]

So even if KK and PF wanted to get together and be jolly ranchers, why the need to murder KB? For custody alone seems a stretch. Couldn’t he just break it off and settle for visitation? Unless he and KK had some million dollar horse breeding plans and he didn’t want to pay child support based on his income potentials.

KK had nothing to attract the parasitic narc. He used women to
make himself rise higher in social status. (Cuz, he was really a
loser, in real life). She was a "former" rodeo queen. She had
baggage- 2 kids and Ex- no material assets- no farm- no real
money. She was just a periodic booty call for him. No long
term interest from him.
There's some dark secret that KB was onto about PF. and being
the respectful- make no trouble- person- she was trying to
slowly slide out of his life. She knew the "secret", and I'll
bet my hat LE knows now also. It'll come out, just wait.