CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #30 *ARREST*

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  • #561
I can’t help but wonder if we looked at this backwards. Is it possible parts of human remains were found on the Frazee property (burnt or otherwise) & sent for analysis? The return visit to Kelsey’s could have been to get items for DNA comparison? The search of his property was over quicker than expected, they finished on Sunday 12.16, did a routine follow up later that week. By Friday 12.21 he was arrested.
Wouldn't they have had to call the cornoner or ME if they had found parts of human remains? I'm pretty sure the media was watching 24/7 while they were searching his place and we would've heard if they had called for a coroner.
 
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  • #562
Just got a reply from KMVT that the third segment will air at 9 pm and 10 pm mst.
Thanks for this post. They told me 10pm mst. Looks like they have a sister station KSVT that has a 9pm broadcast according the the schedule posted on their livestream site:

KMVT - Livestream

One hour earlier makes it a bit easier for us peeps on the east coast.
 
  • #563
Been thinking of a possible scenario of why the text messages may have been sent from Idaho near someone's home and maybe they didnt want that to happen.

Is it possible a person driving the car from Colorado meant to send the text from Colorado while out in the mountains and maybe there was no cell tower service available and so maybe the SMS text messages were bounced back or put in "standby" mode or something and then when the person got in range of their local tower near the house then maybe the text message finally went through.

Is it possible that something like this happened and the person tried to send it sooner while in Colorado? Or would a bounced back text not try to resend itself?

I guess I am wondering if it didnt go through would the phone keep trying to resend the same text periodically until it finally found a tower and went through?

Thinking something like this could explain that the person never wanted the text to be using a tower in their home town.
 
  • #564
the only thing i can think of why there has been no KK arrest is she became an informant very early on. otherwise LE usually does an arrest and then the individual starts working with LE under some type of plea deal. but i guess it is possible KK has been arrested and that was sealed. but, i've not ever heard of that.
Was she the informant, or was it the Rs that came forward? I assumed it was KK until the R's interview was out.
 
  • #565
So even though KK hasn't been arrested or named as a POI, while PF has been arrested, you think he's a victim? What's your theory on how she killed KB and got her body out of the house? Did she use a horse trailer?
Three solitations, but he's been railroaded. Hmmmmmmm
 
  • #566
Been thinking of a possible scenario of why the text messages may have been sent from Idaho near someone's home and maybe they didnt want that to happen.

Is it possible a person driving the car from Colorado meant to send the text from Colorado while out in the mountains and maybe there was no cell tower service available and so maybe the SMS text messages were bounced back or put in "standby" mode or something and then when the person got in range of their local tower near the house then maybe the text message finally went through.

Is it possible that something like this happened and the person tried to send it sooner while in Colorado? Or would a bounced back text not try to resend itself?

I guess I am wondering if it didnt go through would the phone keep trying to resend the same text periodically until it finally found a tower and went through?

Thinking something like this could explain that the person never wanted the text to be using a tower in their home town.
I have an I-phone 5 and if I send a text and there is no service it will not send automatically when I have a signal again. I have to re send.
 
  • #567
Was she the informant, or was it the Rs that came forward? I assumed it was KK until the R's interview was out.

The R's said they came forward because she didn't but when they did LE was already executing search warrants at her house.

So either she came forward or maybe LE figured it out on their own or someone else came forward. I am betting she didn't come forward and LE figured it out somehow.
 
  • #568
I have an I-phone 5 and if I send a text and there is no service it will not send automatically when I have a signal again. I have to re send.

Thank you. I was wondering about that. I think that outrules the bounced back text theory of it resending itself without a person manually hitting send again.

It floors me that someone would use KB's phone near their home. I keep thinking of it being some sort of really bad mistake on their part and just trying to figure out a way that it could have been a mistake of some kind.

Thanks for the reply about that.
 
  • #569
Been thinking of a possible scenario of why the text messages may have been sent from Idaho near someone's home and maybe they didnt want that to happen.

Is it possible a person driving the car from Colorado meant to send the text from Colorado while out in the mountains and maybe there was no cell tower service available and so maybe the SMS text messages were bounced back or put in "standby" mode or something and then when the person got in range of their local tower near the house then maybe the text message finally went through.

Is it possible that something like this happened and the person tried to send it sooner while in Colorado? Or would a bounced back text not try to resend itself?

I guess I am wondering if it didnt go through would the phone keep trying to resend the same text periodically until it finally found a tower and went through?

Thinking something like this could explain that the person never wanted the text to be using a tower in their home town.
Something like that has happened to me.... I thought I'd sent texts but they didn't go through until much later when I "turned on" (woke up, etc.) the phone...
 
  • #570
IKR? I've been wondering if a few WS members are sending PF pics and love letters, lol! MOO.
Speculation!


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  • #571
Is that kind of scorn necessary? People are allowed to speculate with out being made fun of.

And you are bringing posts forward from hours ago that have already been discussed and any negative feelings put to bed.

How about join us in the here and now.
That’s not scorn. It was funny. We all need to take a breath and relax.
I think LE got their guy.
 
  • #572
Something like that has happened to me.... I thought I'd sent texts but they didn't go through until much later when I "turned on" (woke up, etc.) the phone...
Did you have to push the resend button?
 
  • #573
Something like that has happened to me.... I thought I'd sent texts but they didn't go through until much later when I "turned on" (woke up, etc.) the phone...
I have an iPhone 7. I also have to resend. Seems like texts sent from Idaho were planned.
 
  • #574
That’s not scorn. It was funny. We all need to take a breath and relax.
I think LE got their guy.

i agree LE got their guy but if other people are wondering if maybe someone else played a more leading role surely they can speculate without being made fun of- re sending love letters.

That is not funny if you are on the receiving end of it.

But do what you will.
 
  • #575
I think the real problem lies in the fact that the R's aren't really telling "their" story, their telling us what KK wants everyone to hear. It's her story they are selling and it is suspect for a number of reasons just as PF's story to CB and others was. By the R's coming forward it appears that they are making excuses for someone who has no excuse for being involved and not bringing this "plot" to the attention of someone, anyone before it happened. Had KK refused to participate in this evil deed, there would be no backlash and no need for the interview. I guess I'm more upset at the fact that they allowed themselves to become a mouthpiece for KK.


My question is where are they getting their information to tell KK’s story? And by telling her story are they indirectly giving a backstory for their employee?
JMO and my imagination at work. :/
 
  • #576
Been thinking of a possible scenario of why the text messages may have been sent from Idaho near someone's home and maybe they didnt want that to happen.

Is it possible a person driving the car from Colorado meant to send the text from Colorado while out in the mountains and maybe there was no cell tower service available and so maybe the SMS text messages were bounced back or put in "standby" mode or something and then when the person got in range of their local tower near the house then maybe the text message finally went through.

Is it possible that something like this happened and the person tried to send it sooner while in Colorado? Or would a bounced back text not try to resend itself?

I guess I am wondering if it didnt go through would the phone keep trying to resend the same text periodically until it finally found a tower and went through?

Thinking something like this could explain that the person never wanted the text to be using a tower in their home town.

It happens in my mountain area. We go to the mountains (about 45 minutes total windy drive up and can text or call about half way up until we are between rock. As soon as we can hit one spot on the ride up where there is cell tower communication in an open view area, the texts all start flooding in. So I agree it's possible too.
 
  • #577
Something like that has happened to me.... I thought I'd sent texts but they didn't go through until much later when I "turned on" (woke up, etc.) the phone...

Thanks. Yeah I suppose if she tried to send the texts in the mountains near KB's house and maybe she thought the texts went through and so then she quickly turned off the phone. Then maybe for some reason turned on the phone again right before destroying it, it may have sent the texts from Idaho mistakingly.

It would be silly for her to turn on the phone at all in Idaho but maybe she did that to see if KB's employer answered the employer text.
 
  • #578
I have a Samsung Galaxy S7, I do NOT need to hit resend. My phone asks me if I want it to resend when available and I click yes, so it does.

Do we know what kind of phone Kelsey had?

I am falling asleep, by the way, I'm not so sure I will see tonight's grand finale... And given my profession, I won't be able to check in until tomorrow evening (sad face).
 
  • #579
It happens in my mountain area. We go to the mountains (about 45 minutes total windy drive up and can text or call about half way up until we are between rock. As soon as we can hit one spot on the ride up where there is cell tower communication in an open view area, the texts all start flooding in. So I agree it's possible too.
Mine does that too- but only if you open the app- mail or text
 
  • #580
I have an I-phone 5 and if I send a text and there is no service it will not send automatically when I have a signal again. I have to re send.
Good point. As a Mac/iPhone/iPad user I can second this as fact. You get an alert that the message wasn’t sent and you have to go back to iMessage and click retry.

I don’t believe it’s been reported that texts were sent from Idaho specifically, but it’s been reported to have been sent on the same day it pinged there.

Also, it hasn’t been confirmed what brand of phones are involved.
 
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