CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #30 *ARREST*

[Trudie]

I would not rule that out, Trudie. I would especially like to have a "friend" along if I was "scared". MOO

Tysm, Kapua! Yea, never know when I might need “help”.
Flat tire, over heated radiator, fatigue......lotsa possibilities, IMO.

 

[Esma]

If it’s MSM, it’s MSM. It’s not our responsibility to censor an article from an approved MSM source.

And if MSM mentions a family member such as aunt, cousin, CB, brother- do we need to remove all of those articles? There’s MANY that have not been any issue.

 

[Love Never Fails]

They were slow to act and that's not a crime. However, I really want to get to the bottom of the dates and if it's correct they'd heard Kelsey was missing prior to it being announced by the PD. If it's as they claim - that Michelle told them - then Michelle got it from Krystal who, on top of being involved in this terrible crime, is a complete idiot. The Rs - or Mrs R, anyway - are allowing themselves to be Michelle's mouthpiece with the making excuses for Krystal (madly in love, manipulated, afraid, threatened, etc). Not smart but, imo, rationalizing because they feel badly about not acting sooner. For Pete's sake (and who the heck is Pete, anyway?), they don't even know her.

I’m betting they know her lawyer and are friends with him/her. Doing KK a favor?

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

No buns in the oven that I’ve seen reported. Only cinnamon rolls on the counter.

Not at the time of Kelsey's murder. Think about what Mrs. R said, KK was in love Patrick since she was 18, PF had some kind of hold on KK. they owned horses together, etc,etc.
What can have such a strong hold on a woman for so long? What motivation would there be to go along with eliminating someone's baby Mama.
I'm just putting two,and two together, based off what MRS.R. has said.
It's all starting to add up now.
MOO.

 

[EyesofTheSouth]

I wonder, when soliciting (or anytime), if PF told Idaho nurse how he killed Kelsey or the general mode of disposal. Maybe that’s why LE knows they likely won’t find her, or in one piece/complete body.

I don’t think he had to tell her, because I think she was there in Colorado when the murder took place, if not close by KB’s residence or even outside in a vehicle.

Why? Because I doubt she drove 800 miles after the murder to retrieve the phone and drive 800 miles right back.

I think she was there the whole time.

It would be interesting to know when her last day of work was, and if police know where she stayed for a few days. I don’t think she left until early Sunday morning, placing her in Idaho 5:30-ish Sunday evening when the phone pinged.

 

[Concernedmamaof3]

Tysm, Kapua! Yea, never know when I might need “help”.
Flat tire, over heated radiator, fatigue......lotsa possibilities, IMO.

I am torn on this. It is a long drive, but you would think you wouldn't want too many people knowing about being involved in things like this... although with this group it is the opposite. They seem to tell everyone! MOO

 

[Esma]

And where did ‘they own horses together’ come from? Why was it important for them to say that? I feel like they were throwing out little hints about something. Or just throwing a snippet in on every rumor they’ve heard to build a story and sound ‘in the know’.

 

[Herat]

I don’t think he had to tell her, because I think she was there in Colorado when the murder took place, if not close by KB’s residence or even outside in a vehicle.

Why? Because I doubt she drove 800 miles after the murder to retrieve the phone and drive 800 miles right back.

I think she was there the whole time.

It would be interesting to know when her last day of work was, and if police know where she stayed for a few days. I don’t think she left until early Sunday morning, placing her in Idaho 5:30-ish Sunday evening when the phone pinged.

LE certainly knows her last day of work. Pre-op RN’s normally wouldn’t work holidays and weekends, unless they are taking call for emergency cases, so she could very well have had 4 days off.

I’m pretty sure they can tell where she was and her driving routes by tracing her phone pings, traffic cameras, and where she bought gas and loaded up on SonicFood

SO:
Did PF choose Thanksgiving weekend because KK was available the entire weekend to ‘assist”?

 

[SandyQLS]

First the Rs said that they "connected the dots" when they saw CB on TV, pleading for someone to come forward. The press conference where that occurred was on Dec. 10. Then they claimed they saw a FB post. Then they claimed that their employee "M" came to them on Nov. 26 and said that "she's missing and she's a pilot". So good luck getting to the bottom of the dates.

It doesn't add up very well, does it. And DM is the only MSM so far to point out that the R's didn't come forward at all until the $25,000 reward was offered! They don't want the money, IMO they probably helped M/BFF file a claim! The R's may have been paid more by CBS! I think CBS made the 45 minutes of tape for a future episode of 48 Hours Mystery.

JMO JMO JMO

 

[Concernedmamaof3]

And where did ‘they own horses together’ come from? Why was it important for them to say that? I feel like they were throwing out little hints about something. Or just throwing a snippet in on every rumor they’ve heard to build a story and sound ‘in the know’.

The whole interview is very strange IMO. If they had played all three parts together, the inconsistencies would be even more apparent, but they seemed to go back and forth on a lot of the information. Scared of PF and threats to KKs kids, but possibly multiple trips to CO to visit him. Putting pieces together during the PC with CB and phone number at bottom of screen, but no phone number and then they say they put it together once BFF admitted KB was missing and they saw a FB post. Could they be just piecing together rumors they have heard and acting like BFF told them?

 

[Concernedmamaof3]

LE certainly knows her last day of work. Pre-op RN’s normally wouldn’t work holidays and weekends, unless they are taking call for emergency cases, so she could very well have had 4 days off.

I’m pretty sure they can tell where she was and her driving routes by tracing her phone pings, traffic cameras, and where she bought gas and loaded up on SonicFood

SO:
Did PF choose Thanksgiving weekend because KK was available the entire weekend to ‘assist”?

That is very possible! I don't think anyone has mentioned that. Thanksgiving would be a time where KK could have off for more than 1-2 days.

 

[Herat]

The whole interview is very strange IMO. If they had played all three parts together, the inconsistencies would be even more apparent, but they seemed to go back and forth on a lot of the information. Scared of PF and threats to KKs kids, but possibly multiple trips to CO to visit him. Putting pieces together during the PC with CB and phone number at bottom of screen, but no phone number and then they say they put it together once BFF admitted KB was missing and they saw a FB post. Could they be just piecing together rumors they have heard and acting like BFF told them?

Well, LE will have the entire interview to review and tease apart.

I think the R’s , CBS, and BFF are in legal jeopardy now and we will not hear from them again

 

[Kapua]

It doesn't add up very well, does it. And DM is the only MSM so far to point out that the R's didn't come forward at all until the $25,000 reward was offered! They don't want the money, IMO they probably helped M/BFF file a claim! The R's may have been paid more by CBS! I think CBS made the 45 minutes of tape for a future episode of 48 Hours Mystery.

JMO JMO JMO

The Rs have serious credibility issues, IMHO, and why they felt the need to insert themselves into what is currently an active LE investigation and gossip about an employee and a friend of the employee that they claim to have never met is beyond comprehension. Ugh. I feel SO bad for the Berreths.

 

[makayla]

And Patty thinks she’s going to talk to CB. That’s a laugh. Sounds like the family are disgusted and outraged with these two ‘monsters’ as described in the article.

ITA ... they should be disgusted and outraged! I can’t imagine learning that these people had any kind of knowledge, and instead of investigating or advising LE, they did nothing to help Kelsey’s situation. The more we heard them speak in these very brief self-serving interviews, the more unbelievable it became. JMHO

 

[Artis]

First the Rs said that they "connected the dots" when they saw CB on TV, pleading for someone to come forward. The press conference where that occurred was on Dec. 10. Then they claimed they saw a FB post. Then they claimed that their employee "M" came to them on Nov. 26 and said that "she's missing and she's a pilot". So good luck getting to the bottom of the dates.

Agreed. I hope we get the actual truth, eventually.

 

[Trudie]

I am torn on this. It is a long drive, but you would think you wouldn't want too many people knowing about being involved in things like this... although with this group it is the opposite. They seem to tell everyone! MOO

Well, it doesn’t seem secrecy was crucial in this case, imo,
As you noted.

Another thing that jumps out to me, the things P “supposedly” asked/told KK sound nothing like words from a worldly, seasoned cowboy. Cowboys are street smart, they get around. IMO, if he needed to solicit an outta tower, he had more than one choice.They also “know” a lot of people.
Why choose a blabber mouthed woman? (No implications). Sounds more like drama queens (pun).
Bet P’s “contact” list is not short....just sayin. I also bet there’s a lot of places he can hang his hat, from coast to coast. Despite what any of us think of him, he has friends, imo. A lot!
KK lied, evidently. So, should we believe what she may have told a bff? Then the bff might sensationalize what she shared.....on & on.
IMO, P knows KK, knows her personality, knows she’s a talker. I have friends I can’t tell certain things, love them to death but they sensationalize every story. I can say “I have cold”, they will repeat “Trudie’s on her death bed, I don’t know if she’ll make it......”

ETA: imo, the “owning horses together “ implies their “relationship WAS over yet they still have a bit of a relationship because they “own horses together”. Makes me think girl talk involved “well, he won’t date me but we still have horses, think he’ll come back to me? Huh, huh? He hasn’t asked to buy me out or tried to buy me out, you think he still loves me”, drama filled girl talk by a woman obsessed with a man. Very juvenile, imo. Perhaps he found some horses & she offered to purchase them, giving him partnership status on registration. If so, she expected him to “love” her.
Jmo

 

[Esma]

So when did PF and KK really meet?

We have heard 3 different versions, all rumors, and I do include the R’s version as a rumor. KK may have lied to BFF.
1. At a rodeo
2. They worked together
3. Met right after high school.
We have NO proof that any of the 3 rumors are true.
We know that PF was online in 2016 @ justfarmers.com or a similar website trying to rope a love interest. He definitely met KB this way. What’s to say he didn’t also meet KK this way? Maybe she divorced in 2016 to have a new relationship with PF, or maybe she was fishing for a new farmer man after the divorce. We just don’t know. He may have been juggling a few options he connected with on that website. The R’s did say- ‘On her LAST trip to Colorado…’, meaning of course she had been there before. It was reported on the news that KB and PF had been developing a relationship long distance prior to her moving there to be closer to him. Was he also developing a relationship with KK at the same time? KB moves to CO and in fairly short order becomes pregnant. Did he feel stuck now with KB? Did he pine over KK and she over him, or did they continue to engage and the murder plot eventually ensued?

 

[Herat]

That is very possible! I don't think anyone has mentioned that. Thanksgiving would be a time where KK could have off for more than 1-2 days.

First of all, other than the R’s / BFF comments, we don’t have other independent confirmation that she was in WP.

I’m damm curious as to whether she had Wed, Nov 21 off, too. That would imply to me that she premeditatedly arrived when KB was still alive.

We don’t really know when she arrived, do we? It could have been Friday or even Saturday. The Sonic drive-through video that was reported once placed her in WP on Saturday, but there ‘s been no additional mention to confirm that.

All we really surmise is that she had KB’s phone in her possession about 5:31 pm on Sunday Nov 25 and that people who claim to have information from her say she was in Colorado.

But LE knows. I’m very sure of that

 

[susiQ]

Not at the time of Kelsey's murder. Think about what Mrs. R said, KK was in love Patrick since she was 18, PF had some kind of hold on KK. they owned horses together, etc,etc.
What can have such a strong hold on a woman for so long? What motivation would there be to go along with eliminating someone's baby Mama.
I'm just putting two,and two together, based off what MRS.R. has said.
It's all starting to add up now.
MOO.

KK was divorced in 2016. The marriage likely broke down much sooner than that. Was it because of PF? Idk, a possibility? What I fail to understand then, is why he started a new relationship with KB precisely at the time her divorce is final. Obviously, his motives were not pure with KB if he went on to "hook up" with KK. What a miserable creep.

 

[enelram]

Well, LE will have the entire interview to review and tease apart.

I think the R’s , CBS, and BFF are in legal jeopardy now and we will not hear from them again

I was just reading yesterday about KK's potential charges and
I'm not sure about Co. law but what I read, in general, said one
could be charged as an accomplice if someone does not report
a murder- BEFORE or AFTER the murder took place.
Gonna go look it up again. I can't believe there's a sensible
reason that the R's are doing these interviews unless the mortgage
is due and the til is empty.