CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #30 *ARREST*

[WildcatRunner]

Does the Morton building have an apartment in it? Many do. Idk

That's a good thought. Many do have some sort of finished area at least.

 

[?mysterian?]

No, we know where one person stands. Not her parents, not her rational cousin who was talking on FB. One person. I'd rather hear from them than someone who has had tantrums on the official FB page before.

Ok, but please remember his sister is missing and is probably deceased. The man she had a baby with has been charged with her murder. He is a victim. He can't even properly grieve his sister.

 

[GordianKnot]

Every. Single. Day. I expect to see new arrests.

WHY ISNT IT HAPPENINGGGGG

Another arrest is coming, IMO. It's simply a matter of time now.
Like you, I'm impatient, but I'm very confident in LE.
IMO, they're really doing their due diligence re: who/what/to what degree others participated in KB's murder, be it before, during or after the crime.

IMO, nobody's going to get off scot-free.
Reduced sentence for cooperation? I think that's likely.
But unless somebody is ready, willing and able to lead LE directly to KB's remains, there's no reason to grant immunity. Ain't gonna' happen.
JMO.

 

[LAHOLLA]

Just breathe. In.....and ouuuuuut. In and.....ouuuuut. Ok that's enough! We need facts!

Haha yessss!

 

[LAHOLLA]

Another arrest is coming, IMO. It's simply a matter of time now.
Like you, I'm impatient, but I'm very confident in LE.
IMO, they're really doing their due diligence re: who/what/to what degree others participated in KB's murder, be it before during or after the crime.
IMO, nobody's going to get off scot-free.
Reduced sentence for cooperation? I think that's probably likely.
But unless somebody is ready, willing and able to lead LE directly to KB's remains, there's no reason to grant immunity.
JMO.

I agree, I think it’s coming- possibly several.

I’m glad they are taking the time to build a strong case but I so want to see these monsters where they belong.

 

[susiQ]

Can’t help puzzling over what LE has on PF. Besides electronics, I mean. Could her purse have been on his land, or her ID? Probably not, but if it is just texts, that seems to open a door for his lawyer imo.

I'm guessing they have lots. And, the electronic trail led them right to KK. By then she knew it was all unravelling at an alarming speed. So, she threw PF under the bus to save her own skin. But only until LE put ALL the pieces together. I, like others, really doubt she drove all that way, just to pick up a phone. JMO

 

[Hexe7]

In the Watts case, her brother FR also made similar angry/emotional statements on FB early on in the case. To be fair, I haven't seen FB postings, but I can't even imagine the anguish, despair, and yes, anger, that KB's brother is enduring.

ITA... especially since they are claiming they knew she was missing a week before she was officially reported missing... I don’t consider his comment as throwing a tantrum (unless there are other comments that are being referred to) Either way I will cut him a lot of slack - his sister is presumed murdered and these people claim to have known and didn’t even try to prevent it...

 

[Artis]

No, we know where one person stands. Not her parents, not her rational cousin who was talking on FB. One person. I'd rather hear from them than someone who has had tantrums on the official FB page before.

Hold up there. This is her brother. Calling his righteous anger, at these clowns who claim to have known about a plot to murder his sister and did nothing, a "tantrum" is not right. Hopefully you never walk in this shoes before learning some basic empathy. He's probably out of his mind with grief and his sister is STILL MISSING.

 

[Mercedes]

That's it. I'm convinced. Their intentions were completely nefarious. A quick Google search has them as Personal Injury---but if he defended a murderer, he has the expertise to NOT have provided the bumbling baffoon of an interview he and his wife gave.

Are they going to be representing KK? Seems to me like they are setting up a defense for her.

A lawyer cannot represent a client in a case in which he is a witness.

 

[Oregon]

Love your post. Except I don’t think LE would give two cents about KK’s responsibilities. If they had enough, she would be Locked up now.

Hopefully, that’s the only consideration she gets...life w/o parole should be minimum.

 

[LAHOLLA]

Hold up there. This is her brother. Calling his righteous anger, at these clowns who claim to have known about a plot to murder his sister and did nothing, a "tantrum" is not right. Hopefully you never walk in this shoes before learning some basic empathy. He's probably out of his mind with grief and his sister is STILL MISSING.

I couldn’t agree more.

Moo moo, buckaroo!

 

[Trudie]

If he's going to inherit the property, I could understand why they would be reluctant to put another dwelling on the property. We don't know the reasons why he chose to stay on his mother's property, but the house looked to be decent-sized from the aerial views we saw from the media as the search warrant was executed on the property. Why put another dwelling ($$) and reduce the area that could hold livestock? Many multi-generational farming/ranching families do the same thing. Sometimes land is split up, depending on how many children decide to stay and continue the family tradition. Other times just one stays, and lives in the house until the older generation is gone, and the house is inherited by the one continuing the family business.

Ita. Plus, he might have his own unit in the barn. I’m sure he dated before KB. If he wanted to bring his lady home, I expect he had private quarters. Actually, a lot of adults live at home these days. If everyone’s cool with it, why not.
IMO, he’d have MORE money bc he has LESS expense.
Ma F’s house is much larger than the condo. When I suggested the condo too small for him to comfortably live with KB, I was attacked. I stand my opinion, 750;sq ft is small for two adults and a child crawling/walking. About the only thing I see taking P off the ranch is jail. Moo

 

[Esma]

No, we know where one person stands. Not her parents, not her rational cousin who was talking on FB. One person. I'd rather hear from them than someone who has had tantrums on the official FB page before.

Are you judging his grieving style? He is hurt and angry. He's suffering. Just stop, please.

 

[NCTeacher]

I'm guessing they have lots. And, the electronic trail led them right to KK. By then she knew it was all unravelling at an alarming speed. So, she threw PF under the bus to save her own skin. But only until LE put ALL the pieces together. I, like others, really doubt she drove all that way, just to pick up a phone. JMO

Yep, not buying 700 miles one way for a phone. The same thing that could be accomplished with a yellow envelope with no (or fabricated) return address and a random (non-monitored) drop site in Colorado Springs or Denver.

Seriously, I ain't driving 700 miles somewhere for something that would be easier/less incriminating done by mail---and I'm the type of person who'll drive 2 hours to eat at certain restaurants, so I'm not opposed to worthy road trips.

 

[Esma]

No, we know where one person stands. Not her parents, not her rational cousin who was talking on FB. One person. I'd rather hear from them than someone who has had tantrums on the official FB page before.

He was likely closer to her than the entire family, being only 2 siblings. Have a heart.

 

[WildcatRunner]

That's it. I'm convinced. Their intentions were completely nefarious. A quick Google search has them as Personal Injury---but if he defended a murderer, he has the expertise to NOT have provided the bumbling baffoon of an interview he and his wife gave.

Are they going to be representing KK? Seems to me like they are setting up a defense for her.

An attorney cannot represent someone in a case where they are also a witness. The R's are just talking heads.

 

[PommyMommy]

Kelsey's Aunt said something like she broke up with him and he said she was going to visit relatives. She said it on FB, but it was reported in the MSM after CB asked her to remove it from FB, which she did.

I"ll try and hunt it down. I'm curious about all.the.details. ty

“Our niece is missing ... She broke up with her ex on Thanksgiving, he said she dropped off the baby and was heading to Soap Lake Washington to visit.”
— Kelsey Berreth's aunt, posting on a Facebook group
Kelsey Berreth: Police Search Fiancé’s Ranch In Hunt For Missing Colorado Mom

 

[WildcatRunner]

A lawyer cannot represent a client in a case in which he is a witness.

Oops, I should have read everything before I started replying. You already had said this.

 

[Esma]

Might want to take down the posts re sleuthing KK. Board violation - you can't sleuth non POI

Hold up a minute, correct me if i'm wrong- but I recall when we were calling her IN and were finally approved to sleuth her, we all decided on the name KK. We could sleuth her but only use her initials. Am I dreaming?

 

[MassGuy]

Every day here I start to rethink everything. It is so easy to place this all on PF because he is the one in jail. And to be clear, I am sure he is guilty. So I keep going back to that to keep my sanity. However, I was reading up on the statement of Jayme Closs’s abductor and how proud he is of himself and even proud of how he killed her parents.....ugh.... and I realized just how sick and insane some people are. Really insane.

So maybe PF and KK have been involved in an on/off relationship since high school, to the point of both being insane and friends with benefits. What if Trudie is right and KK is the mastermind? Let’s say that PF complained all the time because KB wanted more from him and KK was intensely seething inside and she said why don’t we get rid of her?

And let’s go a step further. Let’s speculate her bff got off to KK talking about how she and PF were going to get rid of KB. Maybe KK and bff started planning. Maybe bff helped or did some driving when KK went to Visit PF. Maybe all her friends helped her when she was married to see PF on the side. We don’t know what we don’t know.

I am truly not surprised by anything anymore. It’s like this world is a free for all for the insane. So LE found a lot to incriminate PF and had enough to lock him up and charge him. Good. Maybe they haven’t charged anyone else because quite a few are involved. Maybe not just
KK. Maybe bff or several bffs.

What’s the motive? I was convinced it was custody. Heck, at this point, maybe it was a thrill kill. In fact, I think the only reason that baby is still alive is because PFs mom would have been destroyed if the baby died and PF knew that.

I need a rest. There is so much evil in the world, I’m getting really distraught. Trudie, you take over because I don’t like where this seems to be headed. Maybe LE can figure it all out and make charges soon,
Whew! Maybe MassGuy needs to come back and be a voice of reason. Cause right now I am ready to convict KK and I don’t even know her. Lol.

This is what inevitably happens in cases like this.

Weeks go by without any new information, and we latch on to every new revelation.

We end up complicating something that probably isn’t that complicated, and forget what initially pointed us in one direction in the first place.

Could KK be some diabolical criminal mastermind who pushed poor PF to murder the mother of his child?

I absolutely don’t believe that, and it’s not because I think she is in any way likable.

Just because we don’t see a likely motive for him, but can quite easily come up with a plausible motive for her, doesn’t mean that she drove this.

It doesn’t work like that.

We don’t know what we don’t know, but we do know quite a bit.

PF isn’t behind bars because KK put him there. He is behind bars because law enforcement, and the DA, have evidence that he is intimately involved in this.

They know Kelsey is dead, where she died, and who killed her.

This isn’t based solely on the words of KK.

I do think she is more involved than simply sending some texts and dumping a cell phone.

But I think imaginations are running wild.