CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #30 *ARREST*

[jaspermac]

So she could monitor calls/texts? Know how many ppl,trying to reach KB? Jmo

So yes, I would want to do that and make it look like an out of town trip as someone else said.

But no way, no how would I let it be anywhere near where I live or my friends live, especially if it travelled 800 miles, its too damning.

Whoever has the phone is involved. Ping, ping So why let it be anywhere near you?

To buy a couple of extra days by sending the texts- it's not worth it.

Why wouldn't they have ditched it off one of those huge cliffs on the side of the road.?

 

[Hatfield]

The Rs have serious credibility issues, IMHO, and why they felt the need to insert themselves into what is currently an active LE investigation and gossip about an employee and a friend of the employee that they claim to have never met is beyond comprehension. Ugh. I feel SO bad for the Berreths.

JMO
It is beyond comprehension at this point.

One thing I continue to think is there was a purposeful "circling of the wagons" in Twin Falls Idaho.

And I have a feeling that not only was BFF very good friends with IN, but I think BFF became very good personal friends with Mrs. R. (her employer).

 

[Trudie]

Respectfully, we only have KK's third-hand word that she has some kind of relationship with him. I think he had zero romantic interest in either KB or KK, at least he wants to keep all relationships quiet . KK and he might be friends with benefits, but I don't believe he wanted to be with either of them permanently. My question is, if she will do anything for him, why is she flipping on him now? Wouldn't her overpowering love cause her to sacrifice herself?

I believe she helped him and he may have set her up to take the fall with the phone. I could see the two of them going to KB's house, he murders KB, tells her to take the purse and phone to make it look like a robbery. Maybe he came back later alone to clean up, so now it doesn't look like a robbery, it looks like she left with only her purse and phone. Tells her to use the phone, send the texts so LE will look for someone in that direction someone she is riding with, maybe someone who lives near TF, ID. MOO.

She doesn’t want to go to prison, is my guess. She’s scared. Sometimes these things sound like a good idea, I guess, but there’s so darn many pesky details a pissed off person forgets.
IMO, LE working all available camera footage. IMO, The day is coming they can put a vehicle in the area of the condo. A vehicle that had no biz in that vicinity.

I just flipped thru some previous articles, it remains unclear, did P pick the baby up or did K drop the baby off?

 

[moonlessnight]

ummm, you mean the same lawyer?

I was caught off guard by some really interesting similarities between this case and another that was reported on extensively in the Magic Valley Newspaper (TF, ID) back in 2009. Read the whole thing and I think you’ll see what mean. (I don’t believe the 2009 case dragged on long enough to be tracked here. Or, at least, I didn’t find it.)

Woolsey gets at least six months in prison

 

[NCTeacher]

I think that the aunts comment was based on what PF told CB...” last text i received is she is visiting grandma” - the reason i believe that is MOO is that she also states KB dropped of baby k to him - which I believe has been verified by le and neighbors was not the case - he picked up the baby... so my guess is that the aunt was piecing events together... however... I truly believe KB broke it off with him. She even bought her home on her own... I think she had planned to stay and co-parent. Then... I believe he didn’t like that she was able to make life work without him and things went bad - maybe co-parenting wasn’t enough for him (or others in his family) would not surprise me... anyway my 2 cents, MOO

So...he wants everyone to believe she "went crazy," left on foot WITH THE BABY in order to walk to his ranch, drop her off with him, and then continue on foot--and at no point did he ask her "where's your vehicle?" OR he wants people to believe she "went crazy" but not crazy enough to walk with the baby and return home in her vehicle, just crazy enough to leave the house at that point on foot...

Sheesh. For 2 months of planning, he sure didn't take notes on other local, disappearance-as-murder-coverups.

 

[jaspermac]

Because PF's story was she was going to Idaho to visit her sick grandmother I think.

Grandma was in washington.

 

[NCTeacher]

So yes, I would want to do that and make it look like an out of town trip as someone else said.

But no way, no how would I let it be anywhere near where I live or my friends live, especially if it travelled 800 miles, its too damning.

Whoever has the phone is involved. Ping, ping So why let it be anywhere near you?

To buy a couple of extra days by sending the texts- it's not worth it.

Why wouldn't they have ditched it off one of those huge cliffs on the side of the road.?

Amen. I wouldn't have touched that thing with a 10 foot pole.

 

[Irmese]

If he's going to inherit the property, I could understand why they would be reluctant to put another dwelling on the property. We don't know the reasons why he chose to stay on his mother's property, but the house looked to be decent-sized from the aerial views we saw from the media as the search warrant was executed on the property. Why put another dwelling ($$) and reduce the area that could hold livestock? Many multi-generational farming/ranching families do the same thing. Sometimes land is split up, depending on how many children decide to stay and continue the family tradition. Other times just one stays, and lives in the house until the older generation is gone, and the house is inherited by the one continuing the family business.

Very true, but he didn't move either KB or KK into the house with Ma either. I was agreeing that he had no intentions of marrying KB. Even if he was as poor as a church mouse, he could have married her and had his family on the ranchette. MOO.

 

[Hexe7]

So...he wants everyone to believe she "went crazy," left on foot WITH THE BABY in order to walk to his ranch, drop her off with him, and then continue on foot--and at no point did he ask her "where's your vehicle?" OR he wants people to believe she "went crazy" but not crazy enough to walk with the baby and return home in her vehicle, just crazy enough to leave the house at that point on foot...

Sheesh. For 2 months of planning, he sure didn't take notes on other local, disappearance-as-murder-coverups.

i think you might have replied to the wrong post...

 

[Esma]

Perhaps because the average person may not know about cell phone pings and it didn’t occur to her she could be tracked? JMO

They wanted it to ping in Idaho is my opinion. To show she was headed that way. I don't think they ever thought they would connect him to some nurse in Idaho.

 

[jewelsmac]

This is what inevitably happens in cases like this.

Weeks go by without any new information, and we latch on to every new revelation.

We end up complicating something that probably isn’t that complicated, and forget what initially pointed us in one direction in the first place.

Could KK be some diabolical criminal mastermind who pushed poor PF to murder the mother of his child?

I absolutely don’t believe that, and it’s not because I think she is in any way likable.

Just because we don’t see a likely motive for him, but can quite easily come up with a plausible motive for her, doesn’t mean that she drove this.

It doesn’t work like that.

We don’t know what we don’t know, but we do know quite a bit.

PF isn’t behind bars because KK put him there. He is behind bars because law enforcement, and the DA, have evidence that he is intimately involved in this.

They know Kelsey is dead, where she died, and who killed her.

This isn’t based solely on the words of KK.

I do think she is more involved than simply sending some texts and dumping a cell phone.

But I think imaginations are running wild.

I agree completely. I do not think that KK is the mastermind (and I use this term loosely) in this scenario.
I also don’t think she was the frightened little mouse trying to save herself or her children. Someone threatened you and your kids, and lives 700 miles away? You either 1. Call the cops. or 2. You keep your mouth shut because you’re terrified to cross him.
You do not tell your best friend who could 1. call the cops or 2. tell someone else, which she did. I just don’t see it.
LE How’s him in jail right now because they have something big on him. And I don’t think that it is entirely her. jmo

 

[NoeticSoul]

Grandma was in washington.

Thought it was a nursing home in Idaho, my bad.

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

I'm not sure but isn't that what her family supposed when they heard about the phone ping in Idaho? I don't remember it coming from PF.

I don't think he wanted it to look like a robbery. I think the robbery charge is for them taking her phone,and purse, in addition to murdering her. Maybe even while murdering her.
MOO

 

[NCTeacher]

i think you might have replied to the wrong post...

No, I didn't. I was piggy backing what was said on that post in conjunction with another post by a different poster. Not implying that the latter poster claimed PF thinks she's crazy.

 

[Irmese]

I think that is very plausible. The only thing that challenges it is, he was obviously planning this for some time (since September, I believe). Why would he switch from robbery to run away? He had to have had this planned out somewhat, particularly how he wanted her disappearance to "appear" to others.

To pin it on KK. He told KK they would make it look like a robbery. He changed the plan without KK knowing it.
ETA MOO.

 

[Irmese]

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[jaspermac]

They wanted it to ping in Idaho is my opinion. To show she was headed that way. I don't think they ever thought they would connect him to some nurse in Idaho.

Ok, but how could she not be seen to be connected. Even if they somehow were never seen together , which I doubt. They owned horses together according to the recent MSM daily mail article.

The police would look for every person her had a business connection with in Idaho for sure. friends. She was a talker. It was impossible it wouldn't come out, one way or another.

It defies common sense.

 

[Trudie]

So...he wants everyone to believe she "went crazy," left on foot WITH THE BABY in order to walk to his ranch, drop her off with him, and then continue on foot--and at no point did he ask her "where's your vehicle?" OR he wants people to believe she "went crazy" but not crazy enough to walk with the baby and return home in her vehicle, just crazy enough to leave the house at that point on foot...

Sheesh. For 2 months of planning, he sure didn't take notes on other local, disappearance-as-murder-coverups.

It appears the “planner” has weak skills & no attention to details. I’m not tech savvy at all but know phones can be tracked & there’s cameras in the most obscure places.

I do think once KK’s mode of transportation is revealed, we’ll learn more.

 

[MassGuy]

Ok, but how could she not be seen to be connected. Even if they somehow were never seen together , which I doubt. They owned horses together according to the recent MSM daily mail article.

The police would look for every person her had a business connection with in Idaho for sure. friends. She was a talker. It was impossible it wouldn't come out, one way or another.

It defies common sense.

This whole crime defies “common sense.”

 

[jewelsmac]

So that I don’t have to read 30 pages, did more of the R’s interview air last night? Because if we don’t get some new info to chew on soon, we’re going to pin the Kennedy assassination on PF and KK.