CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #34 *ARREST*

[Deleted member 718]

So KKL has plead guilty to something. When and where did this happen? AFAIK she's hasn't been to court or even charged.

 

[MassGuy]

Am I wrong in thinking this is what has been telegraphed to us for the past month or so? That KK was cooperating to some degree, at least, and to me, at least, that has meant a plea deal. (I mean, how else do you get scoundrels to talk? Get out the potato peeler? )

Haaa exactly. This is not a surprise, and nothing has changed since then (except for confirmation of a deal).

We knew this.

 

[Love Never Fails]

Ha! Strongly disagreeing is not synonymous with “beating up on anyone.”

Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

I’m just looking at this clinically, and I’ve followed enough cases that I understand that rarely is everyone happy with the outcome.

Not everyone pays the price they should. I don’t like it, but I can live with it.

Oh I know you aren’t beating up on me. That was said in jest. I love how we all feel much the same, and yet can express our different opinions when we need to.

 

[riolove77]

Yes I am emotional. What If I was on the jury? I wouldn’t like it one bit that the DA used her as a witness and I would question their case. I would be a terrible juror. So if everyone wants to beat up on me for my opinion it is all good. I’m still smiling.

Yeah, don't come to any jury duty in my jurisdiction, please! Or just tell me if you do hahaha

 

[Lhughessk]

BBM:

Stop this bus, I'm gettin' off.

MG, I think it's an error to conclude that those of us who are voicing concerns r/t a deal having been struck are doing so on the basis of emotions, i.e., disgust, anger, etc.

My concerns about this deal are NOT rooted in feelings.

Feelings aren't facts. I say this all the time.

I remind myself of this all. the. time.

My concerns r/t the deal are based on the exercise of sensible caution. I am not going to be voicing blind support for the DA cutting a deal with KK, without knowing the terms/conditions of the deal and/or what it cost them.

Blind trust in any political process never makes logical sense to me.

I have said I'm in "wait-and-see" mode, and that's where I am.
Show me the deal, and then I can make an informed decision re: whether I think it's a smart one or not.

I guess what I wonder, concerning your point of view and others with similar views, is why the “wait and see” applies to the deal but not to the particulars of KL’s involvement as well. We still know very little. Yet many are crucifying her when every shred of info we have is anecdotal.

 

[riolove77]

Clayton Sandell on Twitter
NEW: @StLukesHealth in Twin Falls, ID says nurse Krystal Lee "no longer works at the hospital", @gobeckygo reports. Lee, under investigation for helping #PatrickFrazee dispose of evidence in the #KelseyBerreth case, is expected to plead guilty Friday.

Nurse in missing-mom case to plead guilty
Lee had been employed as a nurse at St. Luke's Magic Valley Medical Center in Twin Falls, Idaho. But on Monday, hospital spokeswoman Michelle Bartlome told ABC News that "an individual by that name no longer works at the hospital."

In January, hospital officials said Lee was on a leave of absence.

Pop the champagne!

 

[Dave F.]

Clayton Sandell on Twitter
NEW: @StLukesHealth in Twin Falls, ID says nurse Krystal Lee "no longer works at the hospital", @gobeckygo reports. Lee, under investigation for helping #PatrickFrazee dispose of evidence in the #KelseyBerreth case, is expected to plead guilty Friday.

Nurse in missing-mom case to plead guilty
Lee had been employed as a nurse at St. Luke's Magic Valley Medical Center in Twin Falls, Idaho. But on Monday, hospital spokeswoman Michelle Bartlome told ABC News that "an individual by that name no longer works at the hospital."

In January, hospital officials said Lee was on a leave of absence.

Actually, in December, Michelle Bartlome was the hospital official that said she was on leave of absence. IMO

 

[riolove77]

Yeah, KBs life will never be the same either. She has none! Let’s see, how many people could have called about that solicitation? KKL? Bff? The R’s? I cannot cry for KKL.....unless I have been very wrong.

BBM. I don't think anyone is crying for her.

 

[MassGuy]

I guess what I wonder, concerning your point of view and others with similar views, is why the “wait and see” applies to the deal but not to the particulars of KL’s involvement as well. We still know very little. Yet many are crucifying her when every shred of info we have is anecdotal.

I’m ready to crucify her for even the smallest amount of involvement here.

I think we can all agree that she knew what she was doing when she transported that phone, and was morally and ethically bankrupt when she didn’t report the solicitation.

But in the interest of justice, I can accept her not facing the full wrath of the justice system, if she puts PF away.

 

[WildcatRunner]

So KKL has plead guilty to something. When and where did this happen? AFAIK she's hasn't been to court or even charged.

She has not plead guilty yet. She is doing that on Friday morning, per MSM.

 

[GordianKnot]

Ha! Strongly disagreeing is not synonymous with “beating up on anyone.”

Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

I’m just looking at this clinically, and I’ve followed enough cases that I understand that rarely is everyone happy with the outcome.

Not everyone pays the price they should. I don’t like it, but I can live with it.

BBM:

That's where you and I (respectfully) differ.

It will always rankle with me. Always.

 

[Love Never Fails]

Interestingly enough, I noticed on KMVT that an article mentioned individual(s) that may have been scheduled to speak with the station but the FBI "stopped" them from speaking. The DA's office had mentioned at the beginning of this that witness contamination was a concern. This was on the initial PF charge news conference. Obviously, some of these witnesses and cases are being tightly controlled because of this witness contamination not witness protection. For example, in the Scott Peterson case, Amber Frey did not do one interview prior to trial, thus no statements could be contrary to her testimony. This may explain why cases are not listed on the docket and are being processed under seal???
Idaho nurse linked to Berreth fiance due in court Friday in Colorado

Thank you. Good to know.

 

[MassGuy]

BBM:

That's where you and I (respectfully) differ.

It will always rankle with me. Always.

Me too.

The difference is, just because I hate it, doesn’t mean I can’t accept its necessity.

 

[Mom24]

Wow, so KL's employment has been terminated. That's a good thing!

 

[MassGuy]

Wow, so KL's employment has been terminated. That's a good thing!

Ha! I always that that was the minimum price she would pay here.

No matter what happens, she ain’t gonna be a nurse no more.

I just hope she isn’t going to be a free woman for a long while.

 

[Love Never Fails]

LNF, your point about being a juror and having emotional responses (which all jurors do, by the way, being human) speaks precisely to a point I made earlier.

The <modsnipped nickname against TOS> is going to be an extremely unattractive witness.
The jury is going to hate her.
Yes, they are going to be instructed by the judge to weigh the facts of the case, but they are going to despise this woman.
They are going to want to disbelieve her.
Her getting up on that stand may very well hurt the prosecution almost as much as it helps them.
Not in terms of her evidentiary testimony, but in terms of the jury's visceral reactions.
As we know, juries don't always reach the logical verdict.

All the defense needs is for one loony juror to convince themselves that "that horrible woman did this herself! He's innocent!" and PF will walk.

JMO.

You said what I didn’t know how to say. You always do. Thank you. Ever since we all came to the conclusion that she was solicited and didn’t tell LE, I just find her repulsive. Everything you said above is how I would feel as a juror. However, if she was charged and given a strong sentence and she still testified because she finally decided it was the right thing to do, she might make the case against PF stronger. Did this woman ever for one second think of her children?

 

[Love Never Fails]

Ha! I always that that was the minimum price she would pay here.

No matter what happens, she ain’t gonna be a nurse no more.

I just hope she isn’t going to be a free woman for a long while.

Can you imagine having her for a nurse? Whew no!

 

[GordianKnot]

Me too.

The difference is, just because I hate it, doesn’t mean I can’t accept its necessity.

"Ay, there's the rub," as Hamlet would say.

IS it necessary?

Expedient? Yes.

But necessary? Probably not as often as we're led to believe.

 

[Love Never Fails]

Yeah, don't come to any jury duty in my jurisdiction, please! Or just tell me if you do hahaha

Ha! Ok. I have never been a juror. I would hate it.

 

[Love Never Fails]

"Ay, there's the rub," as Hamlet would say.

IS it necessary?

Expedient? Yes.

But necessary? Probably not as often as we're led to believe.

Amen.