CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #34 *ARREST*

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  • #841
I’m not a lawyer, but I think that if these are the final charges, and this is what she is pleading to, she won’t serve jail time.

Well now I’m hangry.
 
  • #842
No one is saying the legal process doesn’t have to play out, it certainly does.

We don’t know the nature of her involvement, we know that we don’t know that.

She was solicited three times, and did nothing.

Not only did she do nothing, she then went on to destroy evidence and mislead an investigation.

I am absolutely passing judgement on her, and I am completely unapologetic about that. I can say with absolutely certainty, that she is a terrible human being.

The court of public opinion is one thing, and a court of law is another.

Both have their say.
You are consistent in your generalizations. I’ll give you that.

We don’t know WHY she didn’t report it. Maybe she didn’t take him seriously. Maybe he threatened her. There’s a lot we don’t know. Once I know those things, then I’ll pass judgment on whether she’s a terrible person or not.
 
  • #843
I was more referencing things like questioning the intelligence of the DA :rolleyes:

I considered myself to be fairly intelligent but I don’t assume I know more about this case than the people prosecuting it.
Understood and I totally agree.
 
  • #844
Uhh if this is all she gets...

"This is what justice looks like, folks."

Or so I've been told.

Trust the DA. They know what they're doing. They're the experts.

We don't have to like it, but if it gets the intended result, we can live with it.

Anything else I've missed here?

I'm not usually one for dishing out bromides, there may be others we can console ourselves with...

JMO.
 
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  • #846
You are consistent in your generalizations. I’ll give you that.

We don’t know WHY she didn’t report it. Maybe she didn’t take him seriously. Maybe he threatened her. There’s a lot we don’t know. Once I know those things, then I’ll pass judgment on whether she’s a terrible person or not.
Here’s the thing. I couldn’t care less if he threatened her. There is literally nothing that she could say that would justify her actions.

Even if everything she did was not criminal, it was still horrendous.

A mother is dead, and she didn’t prevent it. That sure as hell rubs me the wrong way.

She ain’t pleading guilty because she was an innocent pawn, she is pleading guilty to save her skin (because she committed a crime).

I know all I need to know, to pass moral judgement. At the same time, I recognize that we don’t know enough to say what she is actually guilty of.
 
  • #847
She destroyed the evidence on the 24th. The texts were sent on the 25th so this is probably not the phone that was destroyed.

Hmm. So what did she destroy?
 
  • #848
This is what justice looks like, folks.

Or so I've been told.

Trust the DA. They know what they're doing. They're the experts.

We don't have to like it, but if it gets the intended result, we can live with it.

Anything else I've missed here? I sometimes miss a bromide or two....

JMO.

Well sadly sometimes it seems we live in a world where the criminals have more rights than the victims. The end result of that is sometimes plea deals are made in order to prevent the biggest fish from going free.
 
  • #849
In defense of rural areas, just because we chose to live in a rural area, does not mean that we are uneducated or stupid.

Back to work...

I know, that comment was very offensive.
 
  • #850
If it's not the phone, maybe it's the gun he shot her with. MOO

Lung tissue moo
 
  • #851
Thanks for finding and posting that link. I hope the BON has been following this case with regard to an ID nurse's alleged involvement in a crime in another state and will be ready to handle her license appropriately when the time comes and the court documents are available.
I'm sure they will. This is a very high profile case. If you look at the agenda for last month, it states there was an executive session with a group of people including the DA. I'm assuming that's most likely in reference to this case, especially since it was a closed door meeting. I'll feel much more relieved when they revoke her license, until then I worry. If all she's pleading guilty to is destruction of evidence, there's a chance that she may be able to reinstate her license if it does end up being revoked.
 
  • #852
Let's not derail the thread. But your recitation of the evidence in the case prior to the plea is not a small fraction of what there was that we knew of prior to the plea. Not even remotely close. At the beginning of each thread prior to the plea was a list by me of all the evidence. It was incredible and vast.
Well, I don’t want to derail the thread either. You were the one who brought watts up in the first place. And now you’re unwilling to back up the point with examples, but so be it.
 
  • #853
Is it possible she could have destroyed the phone but kept the SIM card in order to send the messages?
 
  • #854
Trust me, if she gets nothing or next to nothing, I’m going to flip a table :p
If that is all she gets in Colorado, I'm hoping the feds will slap her with some serious charges relating to the communications/data/fraud.

JMO
 
  • #855
This is interesting, yet not surprising.

Destroying evidence on the 24th means involvement beyond the phone. Phone wasn't destroyed on the 24th and then sending messages on the 25th.


BREAKING: Krystal Kenney is facing charges of Tampering with Physical Evidence-Destroy. Formal complaint was filed today, though she hasn’t been formally charged. Plus, prosecutors have a date in question. I’ll explain coming up on @KOAA

Based on the paperwork filed, police believe Kenney destroyed evidence on Nov. 24. That’s two days after Berreth was last seen publicly. #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee @KOAA

Sam Kraemer on Twitter
 
  • #856
I’m not a lawyer, but I think that if these are the final charges, and this is what she is pleading to, she won’t serve jail time.

I agree, it has been in the back of my mind for a long time now that she may get a deal that ends up with no jail time. There is no question I will be mad, because she deserves jail time for being involved with this (whether it was just cell phone or more) but at the same time, I know that LE isn't trying to let her get away with something. They do the best they can with what they have.

Even if she "took one for the team" (fyre doc ref) she wasn't going to get a better deal...
 
  • #857
She destroyed the evidence on the 24th. The texts were sent on the 25th so this is probably not the phone that was destroyed.
Or more bad reporting.
 
  • #858
I think it would be good to actually hear from her, since we haven’t at all up to this point. Or we can take the Salem approach - throw her in the water and if she swims then she’s guilty and we burn her at the stake. If she sinks, we’ll give her a funeral befitting her proven innocence.
Salem is lovely this time of year....just sayin'
 
  • #859
I'm confident a nurse entering a guilty plea in a case involving premeditated murder is grounds for both termination and license revocation.

JMO
Don't count on it.
 
  • #860
SS of DAs post regarding KKs charges
 

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