CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #34 *ARREST*

[Oregon]

Weird, the text messages were sent on Nov 25

The evidence she destroyed does not have to be related to the phone. IMO the evidence could be weapons, blood, electronic communication, cleaning materials.

 

[gitana1]

KL is going to be national news, more so than she has been. Her entire life, including every misdeed is getting ready to be told. Friday, she will be a convicted felon and soon serve her sentence. I do not think nursing is her primary concern.

Yeah but she has to make money. If she can't work as a nurse that would be rough. Of course it would be unlikely she'd be able to find a nursing job even if se keeps her license.

Serves her right.

 

[girlhasnoname]

It’s good progress, (at least it appears to be at this point).

We have been playing “wait and see” since day 1 but I truly do believe the fact that PF was charged pretty quickly and without a body is proof that the DA has a solid case. It only seems logical that without that body, KL’s testimony will go a long way towards showing jurors that “body” even if there isn’t one. (World’s most awkward sentence..)

I would love to see KL found guilty of every single bit of her involvement but if we have to sacrifice her to make sure he doesn’t go free... I guess it’s the lesser of evils.

Some of y’all are hangry tonight

Hah! We've been simmering awhile on this one, I had to watch from a distance as there was literally no news.

I freely admit I think KK is a just like PF. Her decision not to expose the murder plot left a beautiful, innocent mother and daughter up against a monster who wanted her dead. Doesn't get much lower than that in my book.
<good to see you again!>

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

Trust me, if she gets nothing or next to nothing, I’m going to flip a table

Sorry to come in late as I’m catching up, but I just have to say thank u for the needed laugh!

 

[gitana1]

Well, I don’t want to derail the thread either. You were the one who brought watts up in the first place. And now you’re unwilling to back up the point with examples, but so be it.

I just didn't want to get into trouble by veering off totally in a different direction and rearguing a case that had a mountain of evidence. But here ya' go:

Found Deceased - CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #20

 

[LovesPeace2]

Would taking the phone across state lines be a federal charge or is it something Colorado would deal with. I'm hoping friday will give us something but chances are it's gonna be hidden till pfs trial

 

[?mysterian?]

Yeah but she has to make money. If she can't work as a nurse that would be rough. Of course it would be unlikely she'd be able to find a nursing job even if se keeps her license.

Serves her right.

You'd think so, but that doesn't always happen. Some nurses won't self-report when they've been charged with a crime, IMO. They try to get away with it.

I'd be concerned that she'd try to apply/obtain a reciprocal license in another state sometime in the future if her license isn't taken. Or obtain work as a LPN or CNA. Her nursing license needs to be revoked and turned in to the ID BON once she pleads to whatever charge she's pleading to, IMO.

 

[gitana1]

Here is what I found:

54-1413. Disciplinary action. (1) Grounds for discipline. The board shall have the power to refuse to issue, renew or reinstate a license issued pursuant to this chapter, and may revoke, suspend, place on probation, reprimand, limit, restrict, condition or take other disciplinary action against the licensee as it deems proper, including assessment of the costs of investigation and discipline against the licensee, upon a determination by the board that the licensee engaged in conduct constituting any one (1) of the following grounds:

(c) Is convicted of a felony or of any offense involving moral turpitude;

2011 Idaho Code :: TITLE 54 PROFESSIONS, VOCATIONS, AND BUSINESSES :: CHAPTER 14 NURSES :: 54-1413 DISCIPLINARY ACTION.

 

[gitana1]

You'd think so, but that doesn't always happen. Some nurses won't self-report when they've been charged with a crime, IMO. They try to get away with it.

I'd be concerned that she'd try to apply/obtain a reciprocal license in another state sometime in the future if her license isn't taken. Or obtain work as a LPN or CNA. Her nursing license needs to be revoked and turned in to the ID BON once she pleads to whatever charge she's pleading to, IMO.

True but a simple Google of her name will show what's up. If they do that.

I hope that the nursing board will revoke it. A person like that should in no way be anywhere near patients.

 

[GordianKnot]

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KK might want to go ahead and start filling out applications now.

Good luck with that.

 

[NWLady]

No one is saying the legal process doesn’t have to play out, it certainly does.

We don’t know the nature of her involvement, we know that we don’t know that.

She was solicited three times, and did nothing.

Not only did she do nothing, she then went on to destroy evidence and mislead an investigation.

I am absolutely passing judgement on her, and I am completely unapologetic about that. I can say with absolutely certainty, that she is a terrible human being.

The court of public opinion is one thing, and a court of law is another.

Both have their say.

BBM respectively, do we know for sure that he solicted her/KK three times? I apologize if I have missed this somewhere.

 

[srg]

Revealing the location of her body, is essentially an admission of guilt.

If she can’t be found, he still stands a chance (in his mind).

Sometimes killers are successful in forever concealing their victims. I believe that he is confident that is the case here.

He had plenty of time to plan her disposal, and more than enough time to actually carry it out.

I don’t think he’ll give her up.

Absolutely agree that PF won’t say where KBs body/remains were discarded. Not only is that admission of guilt, but in his mind to share that info is equivalent of giving his power and control away.

He currently gains nothing from talking. He actually gains something from withholding his information. His knowledge of KBs discard location(s) is his only currency to feel he has power and control.

People like PF get a thrill from being admired, wanted (dead or alive), envied, feared, sued (because means someone is feeling something about them), argued with, interrogated, etc.

Only hickup for PF is being behind bars. That was NOT in his itinerary. So he is trying to protect the only power he has. Where he discarded KBs body/remains. Sick mind.

 

[Lhughessk]

Very true... merely helping someone conceal the murder of their child’s mother can easily be justified.

We don’t know what she did, or what she knew when she did it.

 

[Steelslady]

I don't see how she could keep her license if she were convicted of crime related to murder, but I am not a nurse so I don't know. I do know if she waltzed into my room to perform any nursing duties, I'd be screaming bloody murder and goodness knows what else I might be tempted to do.

Haa! This coming from a completely non violent person IRL.

Same here, and I am willing to be that 100% of us would feel the same way.

 

[MassGuy]

BBM respectively, do we know for sure that he solicted her/KK three times? I apologize if I have missed this somewhere.

Nope. We know for sure that he was charged with three counts of solicitation to commit first degree murder.

Reports indicated that it was in fact KK, who was solicited three times (not a fact though).

This obviously rings true, but as we haven’t seen the arrest affidavit, we have yet to receive confirmation.

I’d be willing to bet PF’s entire Stetson collection on it being true though.

 

[Auntie Cipation]

Wasn't she at Sonic by kb home on the 24

MOO - I've said that all along. Which fits right in with her reported where-abouts (Sonic) and the proximity to the Condo.....all the pieces are there. And sorry, but destroying evidence only? I'm not buying it. Poor little scared rodeo queen ******** doesn't work on me. MOO

I sure hope the trash at Sonic was checked. I know in theory she only went through the drive-thru, but... especially if she had been cleaning, and looking for a place to dispose of a cleaning rag etc.

That's certainly possible. But it seems highly coincidental that KB's phone last pinged in the state where this woman lived.

Yes, I didn't mean to suggest she wasn't involved with the phone, only that these particular charges might be related to something else.

 

[Mercedes]

Why are screen shots of posts on this thread appearing on Facebook?

 

[Steelslady]

H2, I think KK would probably be quite receptive to a book deal and/or a Lifetime movie deal coming out of this for her.
I would hope that if she attempts this the B's would come after her in a civil suit.
I would also hope that the plea deal the DA struck with her explicitly stipulates that she cannot financially benefit from the crime in any way, which would prevent her from accepting any book/movie/tv interview offers, etc.

She will attempt to play the role of being just one more of PF's victims.

JMO.

That thought went through my mind earlier, and I don't know why, after I read she is going to plead guilty- writing a book and it turning into a movie. To which, if that occurred, you can bet I wouldn't give a dime to read or watch either one.

I just want Kelsey found, for her family's sake, so they can give the poor woman a proper burial. The least that these evil monsters can do is give her family that much. Someone knows where Kelsey is.

 

[Lhughessk]

Well sadly sometimes it seems we live in a world where the criminals have more rights than the victims. The end result of that is sometimes plea deals are made in order to prevent the biggest fish from going free.

Better that 99 guilty go free than 1 innocent be convicted wrongly.

 

[GordianKnot]

That thought went through my mind earlier, and I don't know why, after I read she is going to plead guilty- writing a book and it turning into a movie. To which, if that occurred, you can bet I wouldn't give a dime to read or watch either one.

I just want Kelsey found, for her family's sake, so they can give the poor woman a proper burial. The least that these evil monsters can do is give her family that much. Someone knows where Kelsey is.

BBM:

Yes, and we know who that someone is....he ain't talking.