CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #36 *ARREST*

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  • #781
Patrick Frazee DID murder his fiancee Kelsey Berreth says his mistress as she admits to hiding cell | Daily Mail Online
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Krystal Lee Kenney broke down in tears as she confessed to destroying Berreth's cell phone after learning that the young mother, 29, had been murdered by her fiance.

The former nurse, 32, told the judge that she learned about the homicide of November 22 while agreeing to testify against Frazee at his murder trial.

She will be sentenced after that trial for her own involvement after pleading guilty to one felony county of tampering with evidence.

Kenney did not provide any additional information as to how she destroyed the cell phone.

Interesting that is said former nurse. Wonder if she lost her license?
 
  • #782
If they need her testimony to convict then they must not have much solid evidence and that concerns me because the jury is not going to like KK any more than the posters on this forum like her. I don't follow social media but I imagine there already are PF "fan clubs" popping up. They'll have a field day with KK long before trial ever starts.

At least prison is still on the table and the rumor KK was going to receive no prison time today has been put to rest.

JMO
IDK about PF fan clubs, but news article comments are much like here, 95% loathe KK.

JMO but people often come to hate their spouse or intimate SO, and while not defensible, it's sort of understandable when a spouse or SO murders the other. The passion of Love has turned to the passion of Hate.

KK seems worse because she had no direct relationship with KB. KK is in a class of people who are involved in the murder of a stranger for unseemly reasons like greed or jealousy or obsession or thrill. She just seems more vile and cold for her foreknowledge and participation. JMO
 
  • #783
I don't think the prosecution sucks. There is no basis for saying that. We don't know anything about their case.
I would like to add that what we learned today was:
1. The texts and ping were a deliberate diversion, as everyone thought, and
2. The murder investigation is still very much in progress.
I look for the hearing on the 19th to present very little that we haven't heard already, but to state exactly how they found it and how it contributes.
3. We will hear and see a lot more before it over.
I think it is quite appropriate to describe this case as a tragedy........(that is still unfolding). IMO
 
  • #784
Ha! Sometimes the reality sucks.
The reality is for this prosecutor is she is no Amber Frey. I am telling you now the jury is not going to buy it.
 
  • #785
Well, no real suprises here. Now we wait for Feb 19 and hope the evidence isn't suppressed further. Obviously Dan May thinks it will be released. Then we can find out what else KL was involved in that she could have been charged for but wasn't as part of the plea.

I am suprised that PF's legal team was in the gallery. They would have her statements as part of disclosure and it would be more than what she delivered in the courtroom.

They probably were watching everyone’s body language....media, lawyers, family and hers....now they may ask for the trial to be moved because everyone knows what is going on, a high profile case.
 
  • #786
I agree that she is, but she's not more involved than he is...and I don't want to risk the prosecution of him. He's behind this and I have no doubt he went into that condo, looked the mother of his child in the eyes, and murdered her in cold blood. The DA only gets one shot.

Do we honestly believe he did this alone?

Guess I am one of the few that don't buy that. So her murdered Kelsey in front of the baby? Got Kelsey's body out of there and cleaned up, alone, and just gave KK her cell phone at Sonic or wherever they had dinner that night?
 
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If she knows what's good for her, she will hold up on the witness stand. She has a looooot of time to be prepped by her lawyers and the DA.
She is going to be blamed for KB's death.
 
  • #789
I could not disagree with you more strongly, respectfully. I don’t know what your life experiences have been, but by and large the police are reactive rather than proactive. I say that not as a criticism but simply as reality. I even had a police officer lecture me for half an hour one day about that very topic, when I was trying to get him to do something about my ex.

There are many stories of women murdered after they went to the police. After restraining orders were issued. If she had gone to the police in Idaho, here is what I believe would’ve happened. They would’ve filed a report . Then maybe, just maybe, they would’ve actually gotten in touch with police in Colorado. And someone would’ve recognized his last name and connected him to his brother-in-law enforcement and his uncle in law enforcement. Or someone would recognize that he’s a farrier Who is always done good work for them or their parents or whoever. He couldn’t possibly be guilty of what this strange woman up in Idaho is accusing him of, could he? But they would get in touch with him. What would that accomplish? It would be he said she said. Only now he would know what KK did. And some bullies are not cowards. Some bullies keep on going until someone actually stops them. And if he was feeling outraged enough, who knows If he might flip his lid and take out both women instead of just one. Just my opinion.
Oh, I was thinking if KK went straight to the police with the phone, they would have arrested him on the spot and she'd be safe. Would there have been a time period between her going to the police and his getting arrested? I mean a long enough time period for pf to go to ID. She could gone into hiding for a while though...?
 
  • #790
But she spoke to her mom by phone on the morning of the 24th. And surely her Mom recognizes if it was her daughter or not.
I believe KB last talked to her Mom on Thanksgiving morning which was 11/22/18.

I don't recall anybody having contact with KB after this date other than the alleged texts sent to employer and PF on 11/25/18.

MOO
 
  • #791
I could not disagree with you more strongly, respectfully. I don’t know what your life experiences have been, but by and large the police are reactive rather than proactive. I say that not as a criticism but simply as reality. I even had a police officer lecture me for half an hour one day about that very topic, when I was trying to get him to do something about my ex.

There are many stories of women murdered after they went to the police. After restraining orders were issued. If she had gone to the police in Idaho, here is what I believe would’ve happened. They would’ve filed a report . Then maybe, just maybe, they would’ve actually gotten in touch with police in Colorado. And someone would’ve recognized his last name and connected him to his brother-in-law enforcement and his uncle in law enforcement. Or someone would recognize that he’s a farrier Who is always done good work for them or their parents or whoever. He couldn’t possibly be guilty of what this strange woman up in Idaho is accusing him of, could he? But they would get in touch with him. What would that accomplish? It would be he said she said. Only now he would know what KK did. And some bullies are not cowards. Some bullies keep on going until someone actually stops them. And if he was feeling outraged enough, who knows If he might flip his lid and take out both women instead of just one. Just my opinion.
She was solicited to commit murder.

Not only did she do nothing to prevent it, but she participated to an extent.

The mother of a young daughter is dead; this woman could have prevented it.

If this is ok, if this is where the goalposts are located, then I sure as hell don’t want to play on that field.

This is all sorts of wrong.
 
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LMAO. "I was in fear for my life so I just had to have a burger and cheesy fries!"

It may seem weird to us that KK would go get junk food if she was that scared. However, stress eating and emotional eating are both common reactions to both acute and prolonged stress. Cortisol levels remain elevated with prolonged stress and trigger increased appetite.

KK getting fast food might actually fit with her reported experience of stress and fear. Yes, she knew PF had killed KB. And she felt hungry/had an appetite.

Still totally bizarre behavior for us onlookers.

Not saying this is now validating that she was feeling frightened by PF. Just saying eating is a very common coping skill in such situations.
 
  • #793
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Springs Police‏Verified account @CSPDPIO 2m2 minutes ago
At the request of the 4th Judicial District DA's Office and the Woodland Park Police Department, here is the photo of Krystal Lee Kenney, 32 charged in connection with the Woodland Park Kelsey Berreth investigation.
I do not see REMORSE... I see anger in those eyes
 
  • #794
The reality is for this prosecutor is she is no Amber Frey. I am telling you now the jury is not going to buy it.
I don't care if they hate her -- just need the jury to believe her.
 
  • #795
It may seem weird to us that KK would go get junk food if she was that scared. However, stress eating and emotional eating are both common reactions to both acute and prolonged stress. Cortisol levels remain elevated with prolonged stress and trigger increased appetite.

KK getting fast food might actually fit with her reported experience of stress and fear. Yes, she knew PF had killed KB. And she felt hungry/had an appetite.

Still totally bizarre behavior for us onlookers.

Not saying this is now validating that she was feeling frightened by PF. Just saying eating is a very common coping skill in such situations.
So she’s been SCARED to death for the last few years? :eek: GMAB.
 
  • #796
I could not disagree with you more strongly, respectfully. I don’t know what your life experiences have been, but by and large the police are reactive rather than proactive. I say that not as a criticism but simply as reality. I even had a police officer lecture me for half an hour one day about that very topic, when I was trying to get him to do something about my ex.

There are many stories of women murdered after they went to the police. After restraining orders were issued. If she had gone to the police in Idaho, here is what I believe would’ve happened. They would’ve filed a report . Then maybe, just maybe, they would’ve actually gotten in touch with police in Colorado. And someone would’ve recognized his last name and connected him to his brother-in-law enforcement and his uncle in law enforcement. Or someone would recognize that he’s a farrier Who is always done good work for them or their parents or whoever. He couldn’t possibly be guilty of what this strange woman up in Idaho is accusing him of, could he? But they would get in touch with him. What would that accomplish? It would be he said she said. Only now he would know what KK did. And some bullies are not cowards. Some bullies keep on going until someone actually stops them. And if he was feeling outraged enough, who knows If he might flip his lid and take out both women instead of just one. Just my opinion.

or like any respectable LE person would do, they may have contacted KB and asked her questions and let her know about the tip......
 
  • #797
She was solicited to commit murder.

Not only did she do nothing to prevent it, but she participated to an extent.

The mother of a young daughter is dead, this woman could have prevented it.

If this is ok, if this is where the goalposts are located, then I sure as hell don’t want to play on that field.

This is all sorts of wrong.

Amen to that! my thoughts exactly
 
  • #798
Do we honestly believe he did this alone?

Guess I am one of the few that don't buy that. So her murdered Kelsey in front of the baby? Got Kelsey's body out of there and cleaned up, alone, and just gave KK her cell phone at Sonic or wherever they had dinner that night?
@Steelslady The important point in all your questions is if the JURY going to believe she was not a part of it. She was solicited and they have evidence of this and then you magically help carry the phone but you are innocent. The defense is loving this. What is the JURY going to think?
 
  • #799
I knew it was the phone. Now I can’t help but wonder, just speculation, if PFs defense will try to pin this on her. She had a motive. I think she knew more. JMO. I think she was involved more. JMO. PF will turn on her too. JMO
I would try to pin the murder on KK if I was PF's defense lawyer.

As in KK premeditated the murder and brought in PF after the act. KK set up witnesses prior in Idaho who would state that PF had solicited KK. The scenario would be that KK came to CO, murdered KB, and then brought in PF for the cover up. KB's remains being somewhere disposed of by KK on her way back to ID. PF on learning of the murder added detail. Plus one could assume that KB knew of KK while alive, maybe not as PF's love torn long term lover but as his rodeo and horse associate. All KK would need to do if acquainted and on good terms with KB would be to get in in her car and soon thereafter drug her for killing in a safer zone, KK as a nurse having ready access to potent pharmacy. Not saying thinking this occurred but what could be a line of defense for PF.

I am reading from 20 pages behind and have at best read 40% of KB posts in the many long threads.
 
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So she’s been SCARED to death for the last few years? :eek: GMAB.
Can’t speak to that:) She might say she has. Just sharing what I know about stress and stress eating. And weight gain.

Anyways, the more normal thing to do - and morally right - would be to go get a bunch of junk food while you’re calling 911. Could have happened in Sept.
 
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