CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #37 *ARREST*

[UnicornDragon]

I doubt PF told his mother much of anything. At least not the truth. I would not doubt that he told her that Kelsey was a bad mother and that she just took off. It's possible that he bad-mouthed her to his whole family, and others. They probably believed him. Imo

Agreed.

If SF believes the claims, possibly read the FB messages, if I was in that situation, I'm not sure I would think the B family was thinking in Baby K best interest and they may try to flee with her.

I don't agree that the baby should be a media puppet. Best thing was to not broadcast her all over the media.

 

[mickey2942]

Does anyone know whether KK had pre-approved time off for the extended Thanksgiving holiday or if she just called in sick?

I don't know. But it couldn't have been random. I believe that it was planned.

 

[katydid23]

What, in your opinion, could they or should they have done, that you know for a fact they didn’t do?

They could have reported her missing.
They could have spoke at the early pressers, asking for help in finding her.
They could have aided the searchers in some way.
They could have attended the vigils.
They could have allowed the B family to see their grand baby.

 

[ajaylee]

Yes, and were her kids with her on the 24th and 25th? We want to protect the kids from being under the microscope, but it is curious. CO is a long trip.

I sincerely doubt it. I think she spent Thanksgiving with family and I'm sure either her family or her ex-husband or his family would have been available to take care of the kids. I'm guessing she just told them it was some kind of emergency.

 

[ajaylee]

But weren't they in 2 cars?

They could be leaving at the same time but headed for different destinations.

Like a husband and wife both getting in their cars to go to work in the morning.

 

[NoeticSoul]

But weren't they in 2 cars?

iirc Yes. Well, we know one thing is for sure.. they obviously were not loading up for an early morning search for KB nor to return the baby to her.

That said, regardless of what time the arrest was, I watched it on local TV as it was happening and it appeared suspect to me and that's my opinion. I understand about that "life style". I live here in the middle of it and have for years. It was a very strange coincidence then *big eye roll*. I believe that they were tipped off by someone about his impending arrest (no idea where they were headed nor do I care) . Or, they needed two loaded cars and a baby to do their chores that morning?

 

[UnicornDragon]

They could have reported her missing.
They could have spoke at the early pressers, asking for help in finding her.
They could have aided the searchers in some way.
They could have attended the vigils.
They could have allowed the B family to see their grand baby.

1 - Who knows what claims PF made to excuse the disappearance.
2 - What if the short notice was accurate and they wanted to not shill out Baby K to the media.
3 - What public searches? There were none.
4 - Perhaps they didn't feel welcome. Or it was a safe situation.
5 - What evidence does SF have then that CB won't immediately take custody? Lord knows I would never want my in-laws to turn my children over to my biological parents, who knows what SF was told.

 

[katydid23]

I’ve already addressed what you said. The property search, and everything else. As for searching for KB, there was no search going on by anyone, LE or otherwise. You’d have to narrow down the search parameters first.

So other than what we have already discussed, what could SF and the rest of PF’s family have done, that they didn’t do?

I disagree with the bolded portion above.

Search for missing Colorado mom Kelsey Berreth expands

Search for missing Colorado mom Kelsey Berreth expands

"Authorities in Colorado are asking for help from the public as they search for Kelsey Berreth, a 29-year-old mother who was last seen grocery shopping on Thanksgiving near her home in Woodland Park. Investigators have little information, but say they are doing everything they can to bring her back home to her family. NBC’s Joe Fryer reports for TODAY.Dec. 11, 2018"

 

[katydid23]

1 - Who knows what claims PF made to excuse the disappearance.
2 - What if the short notice was accurate and they wanted to not shill out Baby K to the media.
3 - What public searches? There were none.
4 - Perhaps they didn't feel welcome. Or it was a safe situation.
5 - What evidence does SF have then that CB won't immediately take custody? Lord knows I would never want my in-laws to turn my children over to my biological parents, who knows what SF was told.

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Search for missing Colorado mom Kelsey Berreth expands

Search for missing Colorado mom Kelsey Berreth expands

Authorities in Colorado are asking for help from the public as they search for Kelsey Berreth, a 29-year-old mother who was last seen grocery shopping on Thanksgiving near her home in Woodland Park. Investigators have little information, but say they are doing everything they can to bring her back home to her family. NBC’s Joe Fryer reports for TODAY.Dec. 11, 2018

 

[katydid23]

1 - Who knows what claims PF made to excuse the disappearance.
2 - What if the short notice was accurate and they wanted to not shill out Baby K to the media.
3 - What public searches? There were none.
4 - Perhaps they didn't feel welcome. Or it was a safe situation.
5 - What evidence does SF have then that CB won't immediately take custody? Lord knows I would never want my in-laws to turn my children over to my biological parents, who knows what SF was told.

I. I am not sure how that answers my concern, about him not reporting her disappearance. He never spoke to her during that time, and she never checked in on her baby. Even if she did supposedly send him a quick text, that wouldn't negate her wanting to know how the baby was doing.

2. How does schilling out baby K to the media have anything to do with him speaking or appearing at the presser?
and if anyone was schilling out the baby to the media, it was him, carrying her around to his attorneys, etc.

3. There were searches and the authorities did ask for help. [see post above]

4. why wouldn't they feel welcome?

5. 'Seeing' the grandbaby is not the same thing as turning her over to them.

 

[susiQ]

I missed out on the 5 am arrest ...

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[Deleted member 718]

I know it's not a popular topic, but I'd love to hear the Rs full 45 minute interview.

I bet it was KKL's attorney that put the kibosh on KMVT airing it in entirety.

 

[susiQ]

We don’t know about her work schedule.

All we know is that she texted her employer to tell her that she would need the upcoming week off.

I think the implication is that she was scheduled to work at some point during that time, as there obviously would be no other reason to “text out sick.”

I think the OP was about KK not KB

 

[UnicornDragon]

I. I am not sure how that answers my concern, about him not reporting her disappearance. He never spoke to her during that time, and she never checked in on her baby. Even if she did supposedly send him a quick text, that wouldn't negate her wanting to know how the baby was doing.

2. How does schilling out baby K to the media have anything to do with him speaking or appearing at the presser?
and if anyone was schilling out the baby to the media, it was him, carrying her around to his attorneys, etc.

3. There were searches and the authorities did ask for help. [see post above]

4. why wouldn't they feel welcome?

5. 'Seeing' the grandbaby is not the same thing as turning her over to them.

1 - We have no clue what SF knew or was told for the lack of contact.
2 - SF may have been watching the baby then and unable to appear without broadcasting the baby all over. Maybe the lack of notice was accurate.
3 - By December 11th, have to wonder if the F family was advised to not be involved.
4 - Um. Have you seen the bashing of SF and other F family all over?
5 - We have zero idea what meetings were requested, if any.

 

[Mom24]

I. I am not sure how that answers my concern, about him not reporting her disappearance. He never spoke to her during that time, and she never checked in on her baby. Even if she did supposedly send him a quick text, that wouldn't negate her wanting to know how the baby was doing.

2. How does schilling out baby K to the media have anything to do with him speaking or appearing at the presser?
and if anyone was schilling out the baby to the media, it was him, carrying her around to his attorneys, etc.

3. There were searches and the authorities did ask for help. [see post above]

4. why wouldn't they feel welcome?

5. 'Seeing' the grandbaby is not the same thing as turning her over to them.

Let's also add that while they couldn't be bothered to show up at PC's or vigils or even put the missing poster on their fb page, they did find all the energy and time in the world to come here with the sole purpose of continuing the same character assassinations and rumor mongering they had done all over town (posts have been deleted) and they found the time and energy to go to the official fb missing page and degrade KB and CB there as well.
The Berreths traveled over a thousand miles, left their homes and put up missing flyers and posters around town as well as on their social media accts, spoke at PC's and gave interviews to news stations. The Frazee's had the same opportunity. Only an hour notice for a PC is the excuse? Then why not schedule something that works for an interview with the press?
As far as not knowing what PF was telling others about KB? We do know what he was telling people and I don't give a fiddle about it. This was a young woman who was missing and needed be found whether they believed the cow dung PF was throwing around or not. And anyone with half a brain would know that if he were trying to sell such horrible nonsense to his family and they believed him, he had relatives in LE that would have been required to act on behalf of the child, it's called mandatory reporting.

 

[MemPat]

We don’t know about her work schedule.

All we know is that she texted her employer to tell her that she would need the upcoming week off.

I think the implication is that she was scheduled to work at some point during that time, as there obviously would be no other reason to “text out sick.”

MassGuy, I was wondering about KK, not KB, as far as the advance request for time off. Wondering if KK hurried off as the result of a frantic call from PF or if they had a plan.

 

[MassGuy]

MassGuy, I was wondering about KK, not KB, as far as the advance request for time off. Wondering if KK hurried off as the result of a frantic call from PF or if they had a plan.

Haaa, sorry.

I’m very curious about that myself.

Obviously, it looks a lot better for her if she originally had plans to work, then rushed to Colorado to help PF out.

Had this been a planned trip and she already requested time off, that wouldn’t be a good look.

 

[Dave F.]

I missed out on the 5 am arrest ...

I think it was five o'clock somewhere............but it was 8:30 am MST where they cuffed him. IMO

 

[Mom24]

MassGuy, I was wondering about KK, not KB, as far as the advance request for time off. Wondering if KK hurried off as the result of a frantic call from PF or if they had a plan.

I'd guess they had a plan. Holiday weekends are hard to get time off for, those with seniority get first choice, there has to be a certain amount of coverage so only a set number can ask for those days off. Some places require that if you ask for holiday time off you have to make arrangements yourself to have someone cover your shift. Equally hard to call in sick, unless you have proof.

 

[?mysterian?]

We have no idea what PF was telling his mother and family about KB. He could have been telling them that she was on drugs, unstable and has done this type of thing in the past. That's what I assume he was doing. I think that PF is used to lying and manipulating everyone (especially the women) in his life.

JMO.

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