CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #37 *ARREST*

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  • #781
I love how these people making the media rounds for KK, are such good friends that they are willing to defend her on tv, yet didn’t care enough about her to contact the police when someone has supposedly threatened her life.

On what fricken planet does that make sense?
 
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  • #782
I think the R's and MS are willing to be interviewed to absolve themselves of their responsibility in this. They've taken a public bashing for not following up on the information.

Let us hope their reputations have suffered irreparable harm. Shameful behavior by lawyers.
 
  • #783
He could have threatened her (I have witnessed something similar) by pointing out that if she called the Sheriff, he's a hometown boy. They'll likely do nothing more initially than drop by for a chat. He'll tell them about his cray-cray recently-divorced ex in Idaho that is jealous of his new fiancee and baby-mama. The minute they leave, he'll get in his truck, drive straight through to Idaho, and go after her children and there will be nothing the law can do to protect her.

Sadly, it might very well have played out that way if she had told and I think PF knew that.
I strongly disagree that LE would do nothing when there is a threat of violence. They most certainly would have taken a report so that KK could go to her local courthouse and get a protection order for herself and her children. LE take protection orders very seriously, ESPECIALLY when it involves the safety of children.

JMO
 
  • #784
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Oh, that was just wonderful.:):):)
Thanks.
Certainly puts a smile on one's face.
We need softness, and fun, while we deal with this horrid case, and many others.
 
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  • #786
I love how these people making the media rounds for KK, are such good friends that they are willing to defend her on tv, yet don’t care enough about her to contact the police when someone has supposedly threatened her life.

On what fricken planet does that make sense?
On no planet does it make sense and I think that is why the public is so outraged at this trio.
 
  • #787
I can't speak to the situation in Idaho, but I can provide some insight regarding the mindset of people in communities similar to it in surrounding states. The critical factor is whether community members are helpful or hurtful, particularly if the "family name" is being threatened. A large portion of the land within small ranching communities is owned by only a few families. In the ID, WY, MO, CO region those families have generally been long time residents. They start out buying a plot of land and ranching or farming it in order to support their family. If they are fortunate the business succeeds and the start accumulating savings to purchase more land to increase their income. After a couple of decades these residents are the same people that decide it is time to provide some services that will benefit the community. The landowners form partnerships and provide things like a local bank, a closer place to shop for daily needs, repair places for their equipment, doctors/dentists, apartments (so their employees can stay close), etc. The vast number of families I have been associated with have viewed that in a noble way. They are making their "hometown" more comfortable for their friends and family. If you are a resident of their hometown, even if these more powerful families are wonderful people, you are always aware that it is best to "for them" and "not against them". If the local media speaks in an unfavorable way about someone, the friends and family will withdraw their support. In a small town that is frequently a shortcut to closing your doors. Residents cancel their subscriptions and if you've been borrowing from the bank to operate your business the funding will dry up, etc. It's difficult for "cityfolk" to comprehend the level of support, both fiscally and socially, provided to families in small and isolated communities. People who are at odds with the "community viewpoint" generally pick up stakes and move away. jmoo

I agree and believe this to be true even in larger cities. Descendants of the town fathers/land owners tend to draw in around one of their own, though participating in or covering up a young mother's murder might be a bit much even for them.

KK may find she's the one who must pull up stakes and move away. To fall from being the celebrated Rodeo Queen (which is a great big deal there) to gaining notoriety as a felon is quite a big drop, don't you think? MOO
 
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I can't speak to the situation in Idaho, but I can provide some insight regarding the mindset of people in communities similar to it in surrounding states. The critical factor is whether community members are helpful or hurtful, particularly if the "family name" is being threatened. A large portion of the land within small ranching communities is owned by only a few families. In the ID, WY, MO, CO region those families have generally been long time residents. They start out buying a plot of land and ranching or farming it in order to support their family. If they are fortunate the business succeeds and the start accumulating savings to purchase more land to increase their income. After a couple of decades these residents are the same people that decide it is time to provide some services that will benefit the community. The landowners form partnerships and provide things like a local bank, a closer place to shop for daily needs, repair places for their equipment, doctors/dentists, apartments (so their employees can stay close), etc. The vast number of families I have been associated with have viewed that in a noble way. They are making their "hometown" more comfortable for their friends and family. If you are a resident of their hometown, even if these more powerful families are wonderful people, you are always aware that it is best to "for them" and "not against them". If the local media speaks in an unfavorable way about someone, the friends and family will withdraw their support. In a small town that is frequently a shortcut to closing your doors. Residents cancel their subscriptions and if you've been borrowing from the bank to operate your business the funding will dry up, etc. It's difficult for "cityfolk" to comprehend the level of support, both fiscally and socially, provided to families in small and isolated communities. People who are at odds with the "community viewpoint" generally pick up stakes and move away. jmoo

I hadn't thought of it that way. Thanks much for the insight, food for thought, I appreciate it!
 
  • #789
I love how these people making the media rounds for KK, are such good friends that they are willing to defend her on tv, yet didn’t care enough about her to contact the police when someone has supposedly threatened her life.

On what fricken planet does that make sense?

BBM:

That would be Planet *********, I believe.

It's in another galaxy, I think. Not sure. IANAA (I Am Not An Astronomer).

JMO.

*Edited for content. Use your imaginations!!!
 
  • #790
If KK was aware of other accomplices, wouldn't she be afraid for her safety now? Same if she only suspected there were others involved.
IMO, I think she is scared. She went back home, we presume. No one ever sees her.....wonder if she is hiding with protection. Guess we will have to wait and see.
 
  • #791
I don’t buy that she was “scared,” and I have issues with the idea that he ever threatened her.

“Kelsey is so dangerous that she needs to be killed to protect the baby,” is one excuse.

But when you couple that with him essentially saying “I’m so dangerous that I will kill you if you don’t help,” it just doesn’t work.

Is Kelsey dangerous and that’s the justification? Or are both of you so dangerous that murdering to protect the baby is a moot point?

ETA: KK was likely still sleeping with PF, so he’s so dangerous that you are intimate with him? Ok then.

These are mutually exclusive ideas.
It doesn't make sense if it's consensual sex.

But right now, there's no evidence there was any relationship of that sort, or if there was that it was consensual.
 
  • #792
It doesn't make sense if it's consensual sex.

But right now, there's no evidence there was any relationship of that sort, or if there was that it was consensual.

One does not have to twist MS’ words in that CBS interview, in order to reach the conclusion that PF and KK were involved in a sexual relationship.

Her reluctance to answer that question, said quite a bit.
 
  • #793
Catching up.
IMO, the only legitimate fear KK ever had was getting caught driving that phone home.

But now she had better be afraid. Of PF's Mom.
 
  • #794
Interview the First Runner-up to 2008 Miss Magic Valley Stampede queen. I bet she had a story to tell.

Has anyone performed a welfare check on this woman who was KK's big competition for the crown back in '08? Because if there's a trail of Sonic fries leading up to her door, there's genuine cause for alarm.

JMO.
 
  • #795
One does not have to twist MS’ words in that CBS interview, in order to reach the conclusion that PF and KK were involved in a sexual relationship.

Her reluctance to answer that question, said quite a bit.
I'm not answering questions about my "ride or die" friend's sex life in the media, heck I'm not answering questions about my own in the media.
 
  • #796
BBM:

That would be Planet *********, I believe.

It's in another galaxy, I think. Not sure. IANAA (I Am Not An Astronomer).

JMO.

*Edited for content. Use your imaginations!!!
Is that near Uranus? Asking for a friend.......
 
  • #797
It doesn't make sense if it's consensual sex.

But right now, there's no evidence there was any relationship of that sort, or if there was that it was consensual.

If KK had non-consensual sex (rape) with PF, all the more reason for her to go the the police.
 
  • #798
I'm not answering questions about my "ride or die" friend's sex life in the media, heck I'm not answering questions about my own in the media.
It’s not hard to say “no,” or “I don’t know.”

I don’t think she didn’t answer because she didn’t want to go there, I think she didn’t answer because of what the implication would be:

That KK wasn’t truly scared of him.
 
  • #799
I am having a hard time believing that KKL just "recently" found out about the baby. Or whose baby does she believe she is holding in these ranch pictures?
https://heavy.com/news/2019/01/krystal-jean-lee-kenney-idaho/

I tried to search for the non-blurred one without succeeding (it was not yet blurred when the first news/videos came out about the mistress), but the baby reminded me a lot of baby KB also back then. To me it also seems that the main photo could be a KKL family photo, on which the baby is not present in.

Just IMO. MOO.
 
  • #800
It’s not hard to say “no,” or “I don’t know.”

I don’t think she didn’t answer because she didn’t want to go there, I think she didn’t answer because of what the implication would be:

That KK wasn’t truly scared of him.
MS already knew that KK isn't afraid of him. She knows she's on camera lying to the world.
 
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