CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #38 *ARREST*

[NoeticSoul]

This would be plausible if we assumed that KB and PF were still together in September. If it's true that they broke up earlier that year, then I don't see KB getting jealous much later. Do we know for sure when they broke up?

bbm Only what PF stated so far. And I give zero credibility to that. KB's mom didn't seem to think so.

 

[indicolite22]

A few more statements from the Rs interview bother me... Patty said that on Nov 26th she remembered seeing a FB post about a missing Colorado mum that sounded familiar. Did such a page exist for KB on Nov 26th? It seems too early. The second one is about the claim that KK changed her phone number on Nov 27 - before she spoke to the authorities. Why did she change the number? Did she also get rid of her old phone?

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

I'm right there with you. I don't get it. A poster a dozen or so threads ago suggested that I shouldn't try to make sense of it. But there is something Seriously Wrong with 30-something adults who don't understand consequences. The thoughts "What happens if I get caught?" and "I don't want to go to prison" never occurred to them, or they blew them off. MOO

Their morals are equal to their smarts.
Worlds Dumbest Criminals has lots of material for a show with this lot.

 

[SandyQLS]

As far as we know, she declined. The Rs also claimed in their TV interview, that they told KK's friend to contact them and talk to them about it. She didn't take the offer, telling to her friend to "forget about the whole thing". Was she not upset about it any more? Did he stop?
I'd also like to know why did KK's friend inform the Rs on Nov 26th that "that person" was missing? It looks like she didn't know KK had a role in it? Wasn't this before Kelsey was officially declared missing? The Rs allegedly gave KK a 24-hour ultimatum to contact police. They were told a day later that she did, but it wasn't true.

How in the world did the R's find out from FB or the BFF/MS that KB was missing as of Monday Nov 26? The fake texts to PF and Doss Aviation, likely sent by KK, were on Sunday Nov 25 and associated with the ping in Gooding, ID at 5:13pm.

PF, SF, CB, B's, F's, Doss, WPPD - no one had reported KB "missing" and no one was looking for her until CB contacted WPPD on Dec 3 to file an official missing persons report. I know there are conflicting early media reports about an LE door-knock no-entry welfare check on Nov 25 at KB's townhome, but that does not explain the cast of Idaho characters claiming KB was missing as of Nov 26 and chatting about it on FB.

There could really only be one source for that and her name is KK, with assistance from BFF/MS IMO. Now why would KK put that out there when the fake texts indicated KB took a week of from work which is not "missing" but voluntarily out of the area of WP?

Makes no sense.

 

[riolove77]

Where I practiced, it is known as “ineffective assistance of counsel.”

Lol thanks, I was at the gym and could not for the life of me remember the proper term!

 

[riolove77]

How in the world did the R's find out from FB or the BFF/MS that KB was missing as of Monday Nov 26? The fake texts to PF and Doss Aviation, likely sent by KK, were on Sunday Nov 25 and associated with the ping in Gooding, ID at 5:13pm.

PF, SF, CB, B's, F's, Doss, WPPD - no one had reported KB "missing" and no one was looking for her until CB contacted WPPD on Dec 3 to file an official missing persons report. I know there are conflicting early media reports about an LE door-knock no-entry welfare check on Nov 25 at KB's townhome, but that does not explain the cast of Idaho characters claiming KB was missing as of Nov 26 and chatting about it on FB.

There could really only be one source for that and her name is KK, with assistance from BFF/MS IMO. Now why would KK put that out there when the fake texts indicated KB took a week of from work which is not "missing" but voluntarily out of the area of WP?

Makes no sense.

I'm still convinced the Rs were mistaken about those dates. It's just impossible they knew at that point.

 

[SandyQLS]

Link for reference my post and a few others re: R's interview and Nov 26 date. Video of interview also available; article is not a transcript but excerpts. From Part II:

Part Two: Twin Falls couple discusses tough call to FBI

"...On November 26th, [MS] came to [PR] and said 'that person, she's missing, she's also a pilot.' [PR] realized she had also seen a Facebook post about a missing Colorado mom that sounded familiar. She delivered an ultimatum for her employee [MS] to pass along to [KK].

“I said, ‘Would you please text your friend [KK] and ask her if this is that woman?,” [PR] said. She responded quickly and said that it was. “I said, 'Now I’m very concerned. So your friend has 24 hours to go to the police, or I’m calling them.'” ..."

 

[MyBelle]

A few more statements from the Rs interview bother me... Patty said that on Nov 26th she remembered seeing a FB post about a missing Colorado mum that sounded familiar. Did such a page exist for KB on Nov 26th? It seems too early. The second one is about the claim that KK changed her phone number on Nov 27 - before she spoke to the authorities. Why did she change the number? Did she also get rid of her old phone?

I didn't see the R's interview but those dates are impossible for them to know unless KK told them.

JMO

 

[K9Enzo]

Interesting, I got what he meant. Did you really believe he meant lying in the middle of the road?

It's interesting to me as well. I seemed to have struck a chord with my statement.

 

[MyBelle]

How in the world did the R's find out from FB or the BFF/MS that KB was missing as of Monday Nov 26? The fake texts to PF and Doss Aviation, likely sent by KK, were on Sunday Nov 25 and associated with the ping in Gooding, ID at 5:13pm.

PF, SF, CB, B's, F's, Doss, WPPD - no one had reported KB "missing" and no one was looking for her until CB contacted WPPD on Dec 3 to file an official missing persons report. I know there are conflicting early media reports about an LE door-knock no-entry welfare check on Nov 25 at KB's townhome, but that does not explain the cast of Idaho characters claiming KB was missing as of Nov 26 and chatting about it on FB.

There could really only be one source for that and her name is KK, with assistance from BFF/MS IMO. Now why would KK put that out there when the fake texts indicated KB took a week of from work which is not "missing" but voluntarily out of the area of WP?

Makes no sense.

Are we certain the R's said those specific dates and tied it to facebook? I thought they said they first learned of it when CB appeared at the news conference.

JMO

 

[SandyQLS]

I'm still convinced the Rs were mistaken about those dates. It's just impossible they knew at that point.

I just posted the link and quote. MS confirmed to PR that it was KB the Colorado mom and pilot who was missing, on Monday Nov 26. PR gave an ultimatum. ???

Why do you think her date recall was wrong? It was the Monday after Thanksgiving, not an ordinary Monday. I do want to know what you think

 

[riolove77]

I didn't see the R's interview but those dates are impossible for them to know unless KK told them.

JMO

Right, and I can't imagine she would have told them KB was missing when the entire plan was that she had "sent texts" to take the week off.

 

[riolove77]

I just posted the link and quote. MS confirmed to PR that it was KB the Colorado mom and pilot who was missing, on Monday Nov 26. PR gave an ultimatum. ???

Why do you think her date recall was wrong? It was the Monday after Thanksgiving, not an ordinary Monday. I do want to know what you think

Just because it seems that PF and KK's entire plan was to make it look as if KB took off for the week, hence the texts. So why would they already be telling people she was missing?

 

[SandyQLS]

Are we certain the R's said those specific dates and tied it to facebook? I thought they said they first learned of it when CB appeared at the news conference.

JMO

Yes. In Part I the R's made the claim about seeing CB at the Dec 10 presser.

Twin Falls couple discusses tough call to FBI

"...When asked what made [PR] come forward and call the FBI, she said it was when she connected the dots of who was involved and watching Kelsey’s mother [CB] plea for help on national television. ..."

The story the R's told changed from Part I to Part II of their interviews, and they never called the FBI until Dec 17 when search warrants had been or were being executed at KK's property.

 

[Mimi in London]

I just posted the link and quote. MS confirmed to PR that it was KB the Colorado mom and pilot who was missing, on Monday Nov 26. PR gave an ultimatum. ???

Why do you think her date recall was wrong? It was the Monday after Thanksgiving, not an ordinary Monday. I do want to know what you think

It’s not impossible that someone (Kelsey’s family and/or someone in Pf’s circle) made a comment on FB on 26th re. her disappearance.

I’m sure her mother was worried from Day 1 or 2, but was semi-reassured by PF on 25th telling her he’d received a text saying (I’d imagine) she’d be gone for a week.

Her mom may have gone ahead and asked if anyone had seen Kelsey, but held off going to the police until PF’s ‘week’ was up.

IMO

 

[SandyQLS]

Just because it seems that PF and KK's entire plan was to make it look as if KB took off for the week, hence the texts. So why would they already be telling people she was missing?

I just don't know. Babbling idiot serum in the Twin Peaks (sic) water supply instead of fluoride? It seems MS has yet in life to experience a thought that wasn't planted by KK.

 

[MyBelle]

Just because it seems that PF and KK's entire plan was to make it look as if KB took off for the week, hence the texts. So why would they already be telling people she was missing?

I agree. If KK supposedly only knew of the homicide, how did SHE know the body was also missing?

JMO

 

[indicolite22]

PF, SF, CB, B's, F's, Doss, WPPD - no one had reported KB "missing" and no one was looking for her until CB contacted WPPD on Dec 3 to file an official missing persons report. I know there are conflicting early media reports about an LE door-knock no-entry welfare check on Nov 25 at KB's townhome, but that does not explain the cast of Idaho characters claiming KB was missing as of Nov 26 and chatting about it on FB.

Some media reported that the police stepped in on Dec 2, after CB asked for a welfare check.


Police want direct talk with missing Colorado mom Kelsey Berreth's fiance

 

[SandyQLS]

It’s not impossible that someone (Kelsey’s family and/or someone in Pf’s circle) made a comment on FB on 26th re. her disappearance.

I’m sure her mother was worried from Day 1 or 2, but was semi-reassured by PF on 25th telling her he’d received a text saying (I’d imagine) she’d be gone for a week.

Her mom may have gone ahead and asked if anyone had seen Kelsey, but held off going to the police until PF’s ‘week’ was up.

IMO

If CB put something out on FB, how would the people of Twin Falls be connected, how would they know or care? If PF got a text that KB left for a week and he wasn't worried, why would he put something out by Nov 26? KB was not disappeared at that time. It was one full week until a missing person report and two full weeks until the WPPD presser garnered media attention. Do the people of Twin Falls just have unusual interest in the comings and goings of strangers in other states, before they are missing?

I love your thinking and posts. I think I get a little direct and nasty every time these Idaho people come up - not directed at you or anybody here.

 

[MemPat]

BBM: I so agree. Red Rover was good stuff! The absolute best game to play at dusk was "Ghost in the Graveyard."

Ah, the memories of Red Rover and Mother, May I!