CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #39 *ARREST*

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I can't find that info from the DA anywhere only the info from her interview with Slater and video confirmation that she was there on Nov 24 (which doesn't preclude before).

Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV
Adams says he was able to confirm Kenney’s physical presence in Colorado on Nov. 24. He says, based on the interview, that she came in the morning. Surveillance from the Sonic in Woodland Park & the Coneco in Florissant showed her vehicle. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee

It was at the very beginning when they tried to get MaFrazee to testify and she took the fifth. May explained it then.
 
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I googled burning a carcass. It said:
"Burning is the last resort disposal method. Use an incinerator if possible or otherwise use a shallow pit with wood in the bottom and the carcass on top. It may be necessary to use an accelerant to get the fire up to the very high temperatures required to burn a carcass."

In a tweet it said PF was at a gas station the same time KK was and he was filling a gas can. An accelerant??
 
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She may have them on her person because she, herself, has a prescription for use.
If, I had her thoughts I would need a bag of those as well.
 
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I'm really very confused. There are a lot of damning facts and opinions, which are not falling into any sort of a pattern at all, so far. Do they have any intention on disclosing what the black box has to do with it? IMO
 
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I think she came back on the 24th based on the opening tweet from Sam-although he does say he is assuming it is KK on the 22nd.

May says she knows about a defendant showing up to her house on Thanksgiving. I’m assuming that’s KK, since PF lives with her. @KOAA
Came back from where? KK was driving from Idaho. Greeley Co location is not past Woodland Park, it's about 160 miles north or prior to reaching Woodland Park.

CBI has KK in WP the morning of 11/24. (Others reported KK spent the night 11/23 in Greeley, Co).
 
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I googled burning a carcass. It said:
"Burning is the last resort disposal method. Use an incinerator if possible or otherwise use a shallow pit with wood in the bottom and the carcass on top. It may be necessary to use an accelerant to get the fire up to the very high temperatures required to burn a carcass."

In a tweet it said PF was at a gas station the same time KK was and he was filling a gas can. An accelerant??
Great point. That gas container was described as “small,” and gas would have been an excellent accelerant.

Lots of killers have used this method, and it reduces most parts of the body to fragments of bone.

There’s still something to find though, so I’m wondering if law enforcement located any bone chips.

Steven Avery did this.
 
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With the evidence that has been heard this morning, I believe he will certainly compel SF to testify. Will she take the 5th, you betcha. JMO
Sharing what she witnessed, she knows she'll incriminate herself. Can we please get another arrest in this case?!?
 
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Love this tweet....wish I had said it:

Krystal Kenney... is guilty of accessory to murder at the very least. Her reputation will serve as her personal hell outside of jail. #lies #kelseyberreth #patrickfrazee

I wonder if her ex-husband is now filing for sole custody of her children.

She doesn’t deserve to have the priviledge of being a mother any more. IMHO, MOO, MOO
 
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Little bit of info on good old Ambien….

- Generally, takes effect in less than 1 hour.
- Side effects include sedation, dizziness, ataxia (slurred speech, stumbling, falling, and incoordination -> kind of like when drunk), dose-dependent amnesia/memory loss, nervousness, rare hallucinations, nausea, diarrhea, headache.
- Potential life-threatening side effects may include respiratory depression; especially when taken with other CNS depressants in overdose and rare angioedema (swelling of the area beneath skin or mucosa).
- Overdose: No fatalities reported with Ambien alone, sedation, ataxia, confusion, low blood pressure, respiratory depression, coma.

So… the normally prescribed dose is 5-10 mg for females; 5 mg is preferred, but we sometimes go to 10 mg if no response at 5 mg, depending on person and risk factors. Some people overuse at much higher doses reportedly without effect which is not a good idea at all. So, just as MassGuy said… It can be unpredictable and may take a whole lot of Ambien. Yes, Ambien would likely eventually incapacitate, but likely not kill by itself. Now if mixed with opiates, alcohol etc. or other CNS depressants it’s a much different story…

The only way I can see KK having access to significant amounts of Ambien is if it is prescribed or if she had “access” to hospital meds… which I don’t want to believe she considered, but based on what she has done may not be too far off…

It’s all just so disturbing… :(
 
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It was at the very beginning when they tried to get MaFrazee to testify and she took the fifth. May explained it then.

Can you quote the tweet? I can't find it anywhere and it changes everything if she was there on Nov 22 and lied to police that she arrived on Nov 24. When PF called her on Nov 22, and then she called him back the way it was worded it made it unclear where her cell phone was at that time.
 
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I wonder if her ex-husband is now filing for sole custody of her children.

She doesn’t deserve to have the priviledge of being a mother any more. IMHO, MOO, MOO

He has good grounds, that's for sure! moo
 
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I wonder if Ma F was going to try and frame KK for Kelsey's murder. Why else would she pick out a rod from the fire and keep it? Something strange about that, and I have no doubt that setting up KK as the murderer would get rid of two threats at once to losing her son- just my opinion, folks.


I first picture/image I saw of SF I didn’t like what I saw. Like I was looking at Fredericka Wagner and Rita Newcomb from the Rhoden murders.
 
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I wonder if her ex-husband is now filing for sole custody of her children.

She doesn’t deserve to have the priviledge of being a mother any more. IMHO, MOO, MOO

Pretty sure her friends and family got a scrubbed version of her involvement and will be pretty surprised to hear the truth.
 
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I attempted to scrub Sam's tweets - need to clean up a bit more
Sam Kraemer (@SamKraemerTV) | Twitter
When asked how many photos there are of PF leaving with a black tote, Adams says none.

Now talking about neighbor surveillance. It can see access to the only entrance to KB’s townhome. Adams says there are other photos of PF that day, but couldn’t tell if he’s coming or going. He’s wearing a white t-shirt & ball cap.

Adams says the B’s arrived on either the 4th or 5th.

Adams says he was first alerted there may be blood inside KB’s townhome on the morning of Dec. 6. That was permitted by the B family, Adams says. Adams admits that was missed on Dec. 3-4 & that was missed by dogs too.

The dogs hit near KB’s 2006 Toyota Corolla. I didn’t catch what door Adams said.

Adams went back with CBI analysts on Dec. 4. He says he didn’t notice anything different. He was in & out for CBI’s crime analysis. They didn’t discover anything to see it as a crime scene. They did use cadaver dogs that day.

Adams says he used her computer. He checked if she booked flights & then got into her Facebook. Adams says he changed her password to access the account without permission.

Defense asking Adams about his investigation. Adams says he forced entry on Dec. 3. He saw the Safeway receipt, but didn’t see any signs that this was a crime scene. No blood stains or sign of struggle. Not even signs of cleaning.

Defense asks Adams about tips in this case. Adams says they’ve received hundreds, but not many that are valid. Some involved sightings.

Defense asks if Adams knows where towers are in Grand Junction, Salt Lake, Gooding. Adams says no. He says he doesn’t know how many there are either

Stiegerwald (defense) asks if Adams is a cell phone expert. He says no, and that he got expert info from someone else. Stiegerwald is pushing a line of questioning to show Adams is not an expert on cell phones, towers, etc.

Cross-examination now

Two more exhibits from the state. First is a still of him on the surveillance at the bank showing him. Second shows the back of his truck, with a black tote in it. He says they learned that tote played a big role in what happened to KB.

That bank video was on Nov. 22.

Adams says he also recovered video of PF at the drive through of Ent Credit Union. He says he couldn’t see the baby in the truck, but did see a baby carrier.

Adams says he tracked KK’s phone movements once she was identified in the case. Early Nov. 25, it pinged off a tower near Grand Junction about a minute after KB’s did. Data indicated those phones were traveling together.

Adams says PF was seen at the same gas station around 4:30 p.m. that day filling up a small gas can. That gas station is a little more than a mile from his residence.

Adams says he was able to confirm KK’s physical presence in Colorado on Nov. 24. He says, based on the interview, that she came in the morning. Surveillance from the Sonic in Woodland Park & the Coneco in Florissant showed her vehicle.

Adams says KB’s phone pinged off a tower near Grand Junction on Nov. 25., before hitting another near Salt Lake and a final ping near Gooding, Idaho

Adams says PF also had contact with KK on Nov. 24. When asked who she is, Adams says she’s a former girlfriend of PF’s.

On Nov. 24, Adams says there were texts & phone calls between PF and KB’s phones. Again, cell tower data showed they were together near Florissant and Cripple Creek

On both pings, Adams says their location showed the phones were together. He says PF then called KB phone on the morning of Nov. 23. Tower data shows both phones were hitting off the tower hitting PF’s residence in Florissant, indicating they were together.

Then later that evening, Adams says the phones were together and pinged west of Cripple Creek. Adams says PF called KK and his mother Sheila on Nov. 22.

Adams wrote search warrants for both KB and PF’s phones to Verizon. He says there were a few phone calls between the phones on Nov. 22. Adams says cell tower data showed they were in the vicinity of her townhome. Later that day, they pinged near Divide.

State asks if the text PF received from KB was “Do you even love me?” Adams confirmed. Adams says PF also talked to WPPD on Dec. 4, but was never formally interviewed after.

Adams, again, says PF’s last contact with KB was a text message on Nov. 25. Adams says PF also indicated they spoke on the phone that day. He says KB told him she was studying & would call him later

Adams says Officer Huber confirmed PF’s whereabouts on Nov. 22. State asked if he’s aware of another surveillance video showing PF at KB’s residence at 3:36 p.m. Adams says yes.

State gives him another still of that neighbor’s surveillance. He says it shows KB, Kaylee, PF & her flowers out front of KB door around 1 p.m.

He says PF was seen on Walmart & Williams Furniture Store surveillance, and on the surveillance video of an adjacent townhome to KB’s. That video showed him at her door

Adams says that business surveillance video was at 12:37 p.m. The business was the Williams Furniture Store.

Adams says KB checked out at Safeway at 12:27 p.m. She bought supplies for a dip and some flowers. Surveillance video from another business showed her vehicle heading toward her townhome. Adams is looking at his phone for the time.

PF didn’t give them info to indicate he ever entered KB townhome. Adams says he tracked PF’s phone.

PF was also contacted by Officer Beth Huber on Dec. 3, though the phone call wasn’t recorded. Adams says PF told her he went to KB home that day to exchange custody but she wasn’t there. He says he ran errands & then came back to exchange in the alley. @KOAA

Adams says the call was recorded on Dec. 2, and that PF gained physical custody of their daughter on Nov. 22. Adams says PF never reported her missing in that 10-day span.

His cattle were in Westcliffe. The officer on the call was Cpl Currin. Recording over

“There were (times) when she worked three days in a row,” he says. Their custody agreement was for PF to have the baby while KB was working. He says KB self-admitted to rehab for about two weeks, and that a church pushed her toward it

PF says he had their daughter with him at the time of the call. He also says KB went to an alcohol/depression rehab center, and that the drive to Pueblo & work stresses were getting to her. Wasn’t exactly sure when he’d exchange custody next.

PF said she went to Breckinridge over the summer with a friend. They took the friend’s vehicle. “We lived so separate lives for so long,” he says. Their baby exchanges were all over the place

PF says he was going to go check on cattle when the officer called

On the call, PF says she “zig zagged” between churches in Colorado Springs and Cañon City. He says he didn’t remember much about her work friends. He says they were never “formally married

He says she tried Colorado Springs first, then moved to Grand Junction in 2017 for “early spring to mid-summer” and then got the job with Doss in Pueblo. Shortly after, she went on maternity leave & then returned to work

He says KB thought about finding a place in Pueblo, or moving back to Washington state or Idaho. On the call he says she’d been in Colorado since May 2016.

Officer asked him when he last got a text from KB. He says it was the 25th. “We texted that morning,” he says. And he said he got a message on the Friday after that her “telephone expired

PF says he took her vehicles back to her place. I couldn’t make out what he said about her gun.

“She was sane...” He says he tried to tell her everyone has bumps in the road, and that she wasn’t suicidal. He says she “just had enough of the arrangement

This is all on the call.

He says he told KB’s mother that KB was spending more time in Pueblo. “I’m not drawing conclusions...”

He says, on the call, that they’d figure out the custody arrangements from there. He says he talked to her about not doing “anything crazy”. He says KB felt like they didn’t know each other anymore.

She requested her stuff back: vehicle keys, house keys and gun. He says he tried to talk some sense to her, but didn’t hear from her much. He says she wanted space & that he’d respect her wishes

In the call, PF says he last spoke to her on Sunday. He said they had a heart-to-heart about their relationship not working out, wanting to go separate ways, that the stress of traveling to Pueblo for work was getting to her

The call was recorded on the officer’s body/taser cam. Adams says it has a :30 delay. @KOAA #

State gives Adams a DVD. He says it’s a recording of a phone call with PF. It was recorded by WPPD officers that made first contact with him. They’re going to play it for us.

Adams says no one else saw or heard from KB after Nov. 22. He says he’s received no tips to suggest she’s alive

State gives Adams a still photo from that surveillance footage. He says KB’s father confirmed that is her in the video.

Adams says KB lived with her 1-year-old baby Kaylee & that PF is the biological father. He says KB was last seen about 12:27 p.m. on Nov. 22, due to the Safeway surveillance video.

Adams says he learned KB was last seen on Thanksgiving (Nov. 22) and that she was last heard from on Nov. 25. Investigation revealed PF was the last person to hear from KB.

He says he became involved in the investigation on Dec. 3. During a morning briefing, he learned WPPD took the missing persons case on Dec. 2. He says her mother CB reported her missing (as we’ve reported).

State is now calling Woodland Park Police Commander Chris Adams. He was just sworn in. He’s the patrol commander for WPPD & has been since August 2015.

She’s exercising her fifth amendment right, FYI.

Judge Scott Sells rules in favor of SF's refusal of testimony. Due to the sequestration order, she’ll have to exit the courtroom for the remainder of today’s hearing. But May is still pleading his case

May says she knows about a defendant showing up to her house on Thanksgiving. I’m assuming that’s KK, since PF lives with her.
ETA - the bottom tweet is the first tweet and BBM
Nicely done, thank you! Whew, it was wild this morning, and revelations far beyond my expectations. Both good, bad and very sad news.
 
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Is it just me.. or am I NOT seeing how any of this possibly adds up KK being SO AFRAID and FRIGHTENED?!
 
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More to learn, but possible I suppose.

I’ve thought that PF beat Kelsey to death, and I’m wondering if that rod is the murder weapon.
that's what I'm thinking too. But why would MaFrazee confiscate it?
 
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