CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #39 *ARREST*

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That doesn't mean he was in the cell beside him... No way would the police put him there, when he is known to be reporting on the case.
You mean the same PD who couldn’t find blood on the walls, tub, toilet, fridge, floor, trash......
 
  • #1,362
It was at the very beginning when they tried to get MaFrazee to testify and she took the fifth. May explained it then.

KK was still in idaho with her aunt on Nov 24 according to Sam



  1. Sam Kraemer Retweeted Beth G

    Sept. 23

    Sam Kraemer added,

    Beth G @BethG98674132
    Replying to @SamKraemerTV
    If the coffee deal happened the 23rd, how could her death still be considered the 22nd? Timeline is very confusing.
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  2. Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV 7m7 minutes ago
    Sam Kraemer Retweeted Allison Lightfoot

    That didn't happen. Krystal Kenney had a beer with her aunt Kristi before going to Kelsey's home. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #
 
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I'm really very confused. There are a lot of damning facts and opinions, which are not falling into any sort of a pattern at all, so far. Do they have any intention on disclosing what the black box has to do with it? IMO
I feel I can follow a pattern very well.
I never read anything about a black box.
 
  • #1,364
Well it’s not over yet. But thus far, it’s not a good look for KKL. My giving her some benefit of the doubt til now has taken a huge hit.
Oh, I knew she was going to be the Achilles heel. Smart to give her sentence at the end. She is a monster. You have to ask why was he comfortable asking her to murder? Now we know.
 
  • #1,365
With all that is being reported today - hot damn!!! And this isn't ALL of it? Wow. Just, wow.
 
  • #1,366
Is it me.. or am I NOT seeing how this possibly adds up KK being SO AFRAID and FRIGHTENED?!
It doesn’t. There is nothing to that effect yet, and I never believed that at any point.

PF told her lies about child abuse, lies that were quite specific with the description of the baby’s injuries.

I do think she believed the baby was being abused, but that is not an excuse.

Nor is there any evidence that Kelsey ever harmed the baby in any way.
 
  • #1,367
More to learn, but possible I suppose.

I’ve thought that PF beat Kelsey to death, and I’m wondering if that rod is the murder weapon.

I think it's from the hinge of the black tote. It didn't burn in the fire.
 
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With all that is being reported today - hot damn!!! And this isn't ALL of it? Wow. Just, wow.
IKR?!
The timeline is becoming more percise by the minute!!
 
  • #1,370
More to learn, but possible I suppose.

I’ve thought that PF beat Kelsey to death, and I’m wondering if that rod is the murder weapon.
Yes and the blood spatter would reflect that kind of a beating IMO.
 
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You mean the same PD who couldn’t find blood on the walls, tub, toilet, fridge, floor, trash......
They did a cursory search. I hate that they missed this, but it’s understandable.

They didn’t know they were staring at a crime scene.
 
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Is it just me.. or am I NOT seeing how this possibly adds up KK being SO AFRAID and FRIGHTENED?!
Right??? She wasn't dragged kicking and screaming into this situation...she ran straight to it. But most here agree her "fear" angle was just to save her own a**. I hope she will have to serve the maximum stated she could get for her plea deal. And of course she can kiss her nursing license goodbye forever.
 
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  • #1,374
You mean the same PD who couldn’t find blood on the walls, tub, toilet, fridge, floor, trash......
Not that I think the PD did a good job, but it was only on the toilet and doorknob visibly. The trash can, wall, vanity etc were found after using Blue Star.

Edited for punctuation because I am so appalled I apparently have lost all knowledge of grammar.
 
  • #1,374
the black tote?
Yes much on the black tote. But nothing on a black box. Two are very different.
Curious on the steel rod.....
 
  • #1,375
Can you quote the tweet? I can't find it anywhere and it changes everything if she was there on Nov 22 and lied to police that she arrived on Nov 24. When PF called her on Nov 22, and then she called him back the way it was worded it made it unclear where her cell phone was at that time.

  1. 4h4 hours ago
    Defense doesn’t have an opinion either way. Sheila’s attorney says he’s never seen this come up in a preliminary hearing. May says she has relevant evidence to this case (motive, certain dates when Krystal Kenney was here). @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney

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Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV
May says she knows about a defendant showing up to her house on Thanksgiving. I’m assuming that’s Kenney, since Patrick lives with her. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney
 
  • #1,376
Great point. That gas container was described as “small,” and would have been a great accelerant.

Lots of killers have used this method, and it reduces most parts of the body to fragments of bone.

There’s still something to find though, so I’m wondering if law enforcement located any bone chips.

Steven Avery did this.
I've read that a body burns quite readily and especially with 5
gallons of gasoline poured around it. Maybe PF had a payloader
on standby to scoop up the dirt/residue left and hauled it off.
Heck if they have a farm tractor with a shovel, that would work.
 
  • #1,377
The more people be lied to, the more people who can testify to his lies.

Good.
I know MG, but boy is it sure a hard pill to swallow. KB was blindsided by PF and KK and God knows who else....SF, or others?? Putting all this info in perspective to the R's 3 part interview makes me want to pull their hair out too.

So many people around KB failed to inform her and/or conspired against her while she was completely innocent.
Another Shannan Watts IMO.
 
  • #1,378
What the Heck???? She was actually on board with this. She wasn't afraid. She told him she could do it
Exactly where is this overwhelming fear? Den of MF Vipers. Omg.
 
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I think it's from the hinge of the black tote. It didn't burn in the fire.
But in a tweet it said it had a connection to solicitation. How?
 
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