CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #4

[Penny4YourThoughts]

@PommyMommy @GraceG - OP was updated to remove the baby's name - good catch. Thanks!

 

[PommyMommy]

Her cars were left in the driveway, so if those rumors about a trip end up being confirmed (and they aren’t yet that I know of), it would point to one of the alternative forms of transportation.

"I can’t think of anywhere she’s ever gone where she hasn’t told me," Cheryl Berreth said on NBC's Today Show. "It’s just not in her character to do something, to just take off and be gone."

Cheryl, who lives in Idaho, said on Today that Gooding is not near her home and her daughter never mentioned any travel plans.

"Never has she gone anywhere without saying anything," she reiterated. "It's just not like her."

Mother of missing Colorado woman pleads for answers

 

[Jupiter05]

I just heard on Denver Channel 2 news that LE will be searching the home of PF this morning. Nothing to link as of yet, but I heard it with my own ears! They are reporting "LE just showed up at PF's home to execute a search warrant".

 

[Irmese]

I don’t find it extremely odd that she and PF didn’t live together, if she is super religious. It sounds backwards, but I know that even if you have a baby before marriage, many religions would expect you to stay living apart prior to marriage. Aside from religion, maybe she didn’t want to sell her townhouse, and it was just easier for him to live home at the ranch because of his work hours or because he could be needed in a pinch/no time to commute in a pinch

I agree. And isn't his mom living with him or vice versa? PF's Mom might not like KB moving in and if PF's Mom is going to be living with them after the wedding, they will need a 3 BR house. Maybe they were saving for that, ergo no set date. Also, no big wedding after baby was born because of religion.

The only reason I can see why KB would leave would be breaking up with PF. If she did, she walked out of the house with nothing but her purse and phone.

According to KB's mom, KB said she might go out for dinner per their phone convo. So maybe someone picked her up for dinner. That's somewhere you would go with only your purse and phone, not in your own vehicle.

 

[iluvmua]

@Kelsey's Aunt based on the BBM part of your statement the only lawyer that has spoken was PF's and he distinctly said that his client "is not a singular person of interest in this case" during an interview. We know LE hasn't named PF as a specific POI but when asked they didn't deny it either, they simply said he's the father of her daughter. I'm sure you can understand why the public is confused. The singular comment threw me off and leads me to think that there's more than one POI, maybe more family involved?



Over and over.

Im sure they are checking out anyone who interacted/knew her.

Jmo

 

[bestill]

I hope LE are looking into all small planes that travelled NW from Pueblo on Thanksgiving Day. I assume they are. I keep wondering if she agreed to go with someone on a spur of the moment air trip that day, and then something went wrong.

Two relevant anecdotes that prompt me to this thought: First, I spent Thanksgiving alone this year, by choice. But even though it was by choice, it felt WEIRD. I could see someone being willing to do something a bit unusual rather than be alone on a traditional gathering day. Especially if it's true that they broke up just one day before.

Second, when I was in college, I went on a date that involved travel in a small plane. My date was a member of the University's flying club, and he had only to check out one of their planes. We flew maybe an hour to a small coastal airport, where he had two bicycles stashed behind the shed (tiny rural airport, plus this was decades ago). We had a nice bike ride along scenic roads, then flew back home the same day.

Just some thoughts, MOO.

BBM I believe I read early on LE had checked and all planes were accounted for, since you and others have mentioned the planes it makes me wonder is there was some reason for them to believe that she was flying with someone that day.

 

[CuriousBystander]

I’m just tuning in and trying hard to catch up. Here’s something I think is interesting and forgive me if already stated:

Are we to believe the only contact KB had with PF from the time of dropping off her daughter on 11/22 until 11/25 was the text message on 11/25? I mean, a mom of a 1 year old would not normally be that trusting or carefree with their only child. I have five children and even with them ranging in age from 8-20, I’m gonna get a call, not a text, from mom every day I’m away. If they were 1...multiple calls.

Again, my apologies if I’ve repeated something previously stated. This sounds very odd to me.

 

[Occam's Zebra]

So, her brother was the one who confirmed that none of her luggage was missing. But how would he know? He lives in another state. I also live far from my sibling and I have no clue how many pieces of luggage she has. Unless she had labeled spaces for suitcases and duffel bags and none of them are empty, isn't it possible that she could have packed a bag?

 

[iluvmua]

I’m just tuning in and trying hard to catch up. Here’s something I think is interesting and forgive me if already stated:

Are we to believe the only contact KB had with PF from the time of dropping off her daughter on 11/22 until 11/25 was the text message on 11/25? I mean, a mom of a 1 year old would not normally be that trusting or carefree with their only child. I have five children and even with them ranging in age from 8-20, I’m gonna get a call, not a text, from mom every day I’m away. If they were 1...multiple calls.

Again, my apologies if I’ve repeated something previously stated. This sounds very odd to me.

We really don't know how their relationship worked.

Jmo

 

[Auntie Cipation]

BBM I believe I read early on LE had checked and all planes were accounted for, since you and others have mentioned the planes it makes me wonder is there was some reason for them to believe that she was flying with someone that day.

Without going back to check, I thought I had seen where they were looking for any stolen planes. I was thinking it doesn't need to be stolen, plenty of pilots own their own planes or have access to rent them as I described. The reason I think plane is because her cars are at home and she is involved with flying. May be a complete wrong track though...

 

[PommyMommy]

Carol McKinley on Twitter

EXCLUSIVE: law enforcement cutting the locks on ranch where #KelseyBerreth fiancée lives with their daughter. Search warrant served this morning. ⁦@ABCWorldNews⁩ ⁦@Clayton_Sandell⁩

Clayton Sandell on Twitter

BREAKING: Law enforcement officers just showed up to execute a search warrant at the home of Patrick Frazee, the fiancée police say was last to see missing mom #KelseyBerreth before she vanished on Thanksgiving. More to come. @ABC

 

[iluvmua]

So, her brother was the one who confirmed that none of her luggage was missing. But how would he know? He lives in another state. I also live far from my sibling and I have no clue how many pieces of luggage she has. Unless she had labeled spaces for suitcases and duffel bags and none of them are empty, isn't it possible that she could have packed a bag?

He went to her house

 

[PommyMommy]

Video at the link: Clayton Sandell on Twitter

Deputies arrived and just cut the lock on the gate that leads onto Patrick Frazee’s property in Florissant Colorado. Now executing a search warrant related to the #KelseyBerreth disappearance. @ABC

 

[gngr~snap]

Agreed, although we don’t know for sure if Kelsey contacted her work or someone else sent the texts.

And we also don’t know if she or others were in contact via text, DMing on social, or phone before or after those texts were sent. All we know is that there were at least two texts and that the last ping from her phone was on the 25th in Idaho.

Who texts their job to say I'm taking a week off?
In most work places I'd see that being an immediate dismissal.
In 2008 my job didn't allow texts to call out sick or whatever. You yourself had to CALL not your friend, not your fiance not your mama and NO TEXTS!
And my job would have called ro speak to said empolyee had a welfare check sonw as well. THAT DAY!
MOO

 

[Curiousobserver]

Cutting the locks? Did somebody loose the key? He said sarcastically....

 

[Hippiemomof5]

Cutting the locks? Did somebody loose the key? He said sarcastically....

So that means he didn’t allow them to search, right? I mean... cutting the locks... jeez.

 

[gngr~snap]

I just heard on Denver Channel 2 news that LE will be searching the home of PF this morning. Nothing to link as of yet, but I heard it with my own ears! They are reporting "LE just showed up at PF's home to execute a search warrant".

Well that changes things!
Moo

 

[Deleted member 718]

To Kelsey's Aunt please, when you say PF picked up the baby at Kelsey's house, is that what PF told you or has this been verified another way?
Also, both cars were in the driveway. At what date was this confirmed? Could one have been brought back between Nov 22 and Dec 1?

 

[MFH]

I wonder why it took so long to get a search warrant. If fiancé was involved, he sure had a lot of time to hide anything on his property.

Thinking he is looking a little less innocent to LE now, and wondering what evidence they had that got them the search warrant.

All IMOO

 

[PommyMommy]

So, her brother was the one who confirmed that none of her luggage was missing. But how would he know? He lives in another state. I also live far from my sibling and I have no clue how many pieces of luggage she has. Unless she had labeled spaces for suitcases and duffel bags and none of them are empty, isn't it possible that she could have packed a bag?

Even if you exclude the luggage, I think she would have taken her makeup. Somewhere else it was also said that she didn't take her toothbrush.

“Kelsey don’t go out in public without a shower, hair done, and makeup applied. All these items remain untouched. We know she made cinnamon rolls for breakfast on Thanksgiving, the remainder are still on the stovetop.”

Colorado mom missing since Thanksgiving

 

[bestill]

LE has not named him a POI

At the 10:00 min mark in the video below you will hear LE say that Patrick is the baby's father and he will leave it at that at this time when he was asked if PF was a POI. LE did not say he wasn't. Just because he hasn't been named doesn't mean he's not one.

I am using what the WPPD officer said in the press conference. What is your source that CB called PF on 11/25?

Beginning about the 1:50 mark in the video linked below:

Kelsey was reported missing on Dec 2. Police contacted her employer who advised that they received a text from Kelsey's phone on 11/25.

DeYoung further states, "Cheryl did reach out to Kelsey's fiance' Patrick Frazee, and he called her back saying he hadn't heard from her since November 25th when Kelsey texted him."

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