CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #42 *ARREST*

[v0x]

BREAKING NEWS!

Rolls previously reported as cinnamon were determined to be pecan!

 

[k-mac]

@v0x (got it….was a zero not an o !)
can not source anywhere the article but they seem to be very fluid atm with changing information.
wish I had screen shot it.

in reading the affidavit again
para 60. Lee has obtained an attorney and agreed to make truthful statements and fully co-operate with investigators in consideration of charges in the captioned investigation.
@gitana1 @Mercedes seen you guys around today wondering if you can explain this legal term for us please if you have a chance
thanks

 

[katydid23]

If KK wasn't there, who was communicating with PF from Idaho that day? Mr. Potato Head? LE says it was KK. Are they lying?

• At 4:37 pm Nov. 22, PF called an Idaho number, also in vicinity of KB’s home, it hit off a tower, southwest of KB’s townhome. He receive a return call from this number a few minutes later. It hit off the same tower, southwest of KB’s townhome. Shortly after, he received a call from that same number. Slater says it pinged off a tower in Divide.
• Referencing the Idaho number belonged to KK, state asks if PF contacting that number became important, knowing that was near the last ping of KB’s phone. Slater said yes, then they tried contacting her.
• CBI agent testified that at 4:24 p.m. on Nov. 22 PF’s phone called his mother. At 4:37 p.m. it called KK. Cell towers show he was southwest of KB‘s home.

Can you link this?

 

[dixiegirl1035]

You are intentionally ignoring the evidence presented at the hearing:

• At 4:37 pm Nov. 22, PF called an Idaho number, also in vicinity of KB’s home, it hit off a tower, southwest of KB’s townhome. He receive a return call from this number a few minutes later. It hit off the same tower, southwest of KB’s townhome. Shortly after, he received a call from that same number. Slater says it pinged off a tower in Divide.
• Referencing the Idaho number belonged to KK, state asks if PF contacting that number became important, knowing that was near the last ping of KB’s phone. Slater said yes, then they tried contacting her.
• CBI agent testified that at 4:24 p.m. on Nov. 22 PF’s phone called his mother. At 4:37 p.m. it called KK. Cell towers show he was southwest of KB‘s home.

They are referring to his phone traveling. Not hers.

 

[MyBelle]

Ashley Franco‏ @AshleyKKTV
Phone records show #KelseyBerreth phone and #PatrickFrazee phone were together the entire day on Nov 22. Records show both phones move west, go off the grid, come back on at a later time. The phones are shown heading toward Cripple Creek. They go dark once again. @KKTV11News

Correct. And apparently at least one burner phone with KK was also moving on Nov. 22.

JMO

 

[MyBelle]

Can you link this?

I've said repeatedly it is on page one of this thread, posts by Tippy Lee.

 

[MassGuy]

BREAKING NEWS!

Rolls previously reported as cinnamon were determined to be pecan!

Seriously. We are going so far backwards it ain’t even funny.

People are going to come on here tomorrow, and wind up completely confused.

Evidence that was presented to show PF’s location following the murder, is now being misinterpreted to prove a narrative that KK is the real killer.

Where am I right now?

 

[katydid23]

It’s a complete misinterpretation of Slater’s tesimony about the location of PF’s phone.

It does not put KK’s phone in Colorado, and is one big nothingburger.

EXACTLY. I made the same mistake when that info first came out. It was worded strangely, and it does look, at first, like they were talking about KK's cell location. That is what I thought initially. But someone corrected me, and I went back a read it.

Upon rereading the testimony, I saw that they were referring to HIS cell being near the townhome, not hers.

 

[katydid23]

I've said repeatedly it is on page one of this thread, posts by Tippy Lee.

It is incorrect and needs to be clarified. JMO

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Wow. Wow. Wow. Is that poor semantics or is this saying the Idaho number was a phone located SW of KB's townhome?

No, let's not let this get legs. It was talking about his phone travelling with KB's phone later in the afternoon when he was calling KKL and his mother. M o o.

 

[k-mac]

I really hope PF's defense goes all out in divulging the ugly details of KK's life

She deserves to have public recognition of the person she really is.

its a double edges sword though.
there needs to be zero confusion and doubt about kk's involvement. it has to be 100% transparent.....ugly or not.
she has to be believable and atm that's a tough ask.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Who’s FCA?

Felon Casey Anthony

 

[MyBelle]

They are referring to his phone traveling. Not hers.

No, they aren't, according to the notes:

November 22, 2018 - Thursday
(Thanksgiving)

• KB last seen on video surveillance shopping in Safeway (noon hour)
• KB exchanged daughter with PF (fiancé)
• KK learned PF committed homicide
• KB was last seen alive on Nov. 22.
• CB says she talked to KB on the phone for about 5 minutes on Nov. 22. During CB and KB’s conversation KB had asked for a bread recipe because her and PF had plans to go out with Baby K for Thanksgiving dinner, but she wanted to a dip recipe from CB if something happened. Slater says, per CB, KB didn’t talk about relationship problems.
• CB told Slater there was another conversation at 9:17 a.m. with Kelsey. Slater says that conversation was about Christmas plans. Nothing about visiting family in Washington state or Idaho though.
• CB told Slater on the evening of Nov. 22, CB says she received texts from KB’s phone that she got her gun back & felt safe now with PF.
• KB was last seen on the Safeway surveillance video about 12:27 p.m. KB’s purchased items for dip and flowers at Safeway. KB was next seen in her car on surveillance video from Williams Bros Furniture, at 12:37 approaching her townhome.
• PF was seen on Walmart & Williams Furniture Store surveillance, and on Arlo camera by KB’s neighbor caught KB, baby K and PF at KB’s door at 1:34 p.m.
• Adams: another surveillance video showing PF at KB’s residence at 3:36 p.m.
• Slater said KK told him PF contacted her, and she knew that he had killed KB.
• Courtroom testimony from CBI agent: KK says PF told her that he covered KB’s eyes with a sweater for a guessing game to guess candle scents. PF used a bat to assault KB, beating her and kill her.
• Slater: KK says PF put KB in a black tote and set that on the ground near the green Toyota before putting it in the back of his truck & transporting her remains to Nash Ranch in Fremont County, CO. PF placed the black tote that KB’s body was in on top of haystacks in a barn at Nash Ranch.
• During the crime, KK told Slater the couple’s 1-year-old daughter was in a room nearby, according to his testimony.
• The murder, according to KK (through PF), happened in a back office/second bedroom.
• According to testimony PF left the murder scene and then went to have Thanksgiving dinner with his family. Later, he allegedly returned to collect KB’s body and burned it.
• PF went to Thanksgiving dinner with his family that same night, according to Slater’s testimony.
• Slater says PF put KB’s body in black bag in truck — and drove to celebrate Thanksgiving with family.
• Phone records show 12:30 both PF and KB’s phones show location at KB’s apartment. Both phones were traveling together later that day. Later that evening phone towers showed both phones together again
• Then later that evening, Adams says the phones were together and pinged west of Cripple Creek. Adams says PF called KK and his mother SF on Nov. 22.
• Agents found PF called his mother on Nov. 22 around 4:24 p.m. They determined his phone pinged off a tower near KBs townhome, heading west from there.
• Adams wrote search warrants for both KB and PF’s phones to Verizon. He says there were a few phone calls between the phones on Nov. 22. Adams says cell tower data showed they were in the vicinity of KB’s townhome. Later that day, they pinged near Divide.
• Phone records show KB’s phone and PF’s phone were together the entire day on Nov 22. Records show both phones move west, go off the grid, come back on at a later time. The phones are shown heading toward Cripple Creek. They go dark once again.
• Slater says it’s his understanding that KB’s phone was in close proximity to PF’s phone. They were moving west from Woodland Park toward Divide, then later that night toward Florissant & Cripple Creek.
• At 4:37 pm Nov. 22, PF called an Idaho number, also in vicinity of KB’s home, it hit off a tower, southwest of KB’s townhome. He receive a return call from this number a few minutes later. It hit off the same tower, southwest of KB’s townhome. Shortly after, he received a call from that same number. Slater says it pinged off a tower in Divide.
• Referencing the Idaho number belonged to KK, state asks if PF contacting that number became important, knowing that was near the last ping of KB’s phone. Slater said yes, then they tried contacting her.
• CBI agent testified that at 4:24 p.m. on Nov. 22 PF’s phone called his mother. At 4:37 p.m. it called KK. Cell towers show he was southwest of KB‘s home.
• Adams says he also recovered video of PF at the drive through of Ent Credit Union. He says he couldn’t see the baby in the truck, but did see a baby carrier.
• Two more exhibits from the state. First is a still of PF on the surveillance at the bank showing him. Second shows the back of his truck, with a black tote in it. He says they learned that tote played a big role in what happened to KB
• Adams says he talked to PF’s brother, a Colorado Springs police officer as part of the investigation. Sean (unsure of spelling) says he saw PF on Nov. 22 & didn’t describe anything as suspicious that day. It doesn’t say exactly when PF arrived for Thanksgiving. Sean says he got there around 2:30 p.m., and that PF arrived a little later. He had baby K with him. Defense says PF’s brother would be aware of things out of the ordinary. since he is a CO Springs police officer. Prosecution says Sean and Patrick have estranged relationship.
• KK spoke with PF at 4:30 p.m. PF texted KK asking for her to call him. PF eventually called KK, saying, she had to get to CO because she had a mess to clean up. KK interpreted that as KB was dead.
• KK said she couldn’t come out right away, realizing what happened. Slater says PF said, “Just f***ing talk.” He made it clear to KK that she needed to bring things with her to “clean up”.
• Slater says PF told KK,“You don’t know how hard it was to have Thanksgiving dinner after killing her. “

 

[v0x]

There only two defendants and she said Thanksgiving??? Not the day after or the weekend after but THANKSGIVING (apparently). As in Thursday, the 22nd. While I saw that earlier, I'm so tired that just sank in!

Thanksgiving.

There was only ONE defendant in the courtroom that day. PF.

 

[scdiv]

I agree. If KB was still alive after he came to 'pick up the baby' --two things would have happened, that didnt happen.

1---some of her friends and/or family would have spoke to her or communicated in some way on Thanksgiving afternoon or evening. Especially if she was all alone.

2----She would have called PF to get the baby back to her, imo. This was her precious vacation time. He and his mom had the baby whenever she worked, which was all week. No way she is going to give him the baby on her day off and then sit alone, communicating with no one.

So I do not believe she was alive and well after their alleged 'custody exchange.'

I'm just trying to get this straight in my head. So we know that PF was seen on surveillance video with Baby K at Walmart. Do you think he acted to KB like he was just running a quick errand with Baby K and then killed her when he got back?

The "custody exchange" was just a story PF told police. But in reality, he acted to KB like all was fine and was playing a romantic candle guessing game with her?

I would love to know from KB's friends what her perspective of this relationship was at this time. Did she think they were still together or not? Was she trying to leave with Baby K? Was she still playing dutiful girlfriend/fiance like her mother Cheryl thought?

 

[WhimsicalWillow]

Seriously. We are going so far backwards it ain’t even funny.

People are going to come on here tomorrow, and wind up completely confused.

Evidence that was presented to show PF’s location following the murder, is now being misinterpreted to prove a narrative that KK is the real killer.

People always try to blame the mistress. Do you remember the people who blamed NK in the Watts case "as the real killer"? Even more disgusting, there were people (not on Websleuths) who made a disgusting attempt to say SW "did it" or "caused CW to do it" because she was bossy. BLECH...

 

[dixiegirl1035]

There only two defendants and she said Thanksgiving??? Not the day after or the weekend after but THANKSGIVING (apparently). As in Thursday, the 22nd. While I saw that earlier, I'm so tired that just sank in!

Thanksgiving.

There is no bombshell. That was a bad quote that was corrected later. He was trying to say that KKL said that the defendant PF was at KB's house.

Let's not let this one get legs either

 

[MassGuy]

People always try to blame the mistress. Do you remember people who blamed NK in the Watts case "as the real killer"?

Yup! First Shanann got it, then the mistress did.

This is different, because the mistress is a vile human being, who committed extremely serious crimes.

But the evidence points clearly to the killer.

PF.

 

[PommyMommy]

Witness reveals how Patrick Frazee allegedly killed Kelsey Berreth, disposed of her body
Slater testified that Kenney was not present during Berreth's murder, but arrived in Colorado on November 24 to clean up the crime scene. She described the scene inside Berreth's home as "horrific."

Details of alleged gruesome bloody cleanup revealed in case against fiancé accused of killing Kelsey Berreth
Lee said Frazee called her on Nov. 22 and told her to get to Colorado to clean up, Slater said. Lee arrived on Nov. 24 with rubber gloves, a hospital gown, bleach, trash bags and booties, Slater testified.

Patrick Frazee going to trial in Kelsey Berreth murder case (UPDATE: Arrest affidavit inside article)
Kenney states she received a call from Frazee on Nov. 22. Frazee allegedly said, "You got to get here now. You got a mess to clean up." On Nov. 24 Kenney claims she was on her way to Colorado with a clean-up kit.

Affidavit details events leading up to Berreth’s death
On Nov. 22 around 4:30 p.m., while she was in Idaho, Kenney received a text from Frazee: “You need to get here now. You’ve got a mess to clean up.”

She told authorities that when she received that text, she “understood that as Berreth had been killed,” according to the affidavit.

While Kenney wasn’t present for the alleged murder, she said Frazee described it in detail.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Correct. And apparently at least one burner phone with KK was also moving on Nov. 22.

JMO

No, there is not a burner phone of KK moving on the 22nd.

Moo

I believe this is a misunderstanding of what has been presented.

It was talking about PF phone and KB's phone