CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #47 *ARREST*

[?mysterian?]

Yeah, and let me go ahead and put it out there for the record that the idea that KB would need to verify who the baby daddy was is beyond ludicrous, IMO.
It flies in the face of everything that's been reported about KB in terms of her lifestyle.
There's no question re: PF being Baby's K's biological father.
KB didn't need any paternity test.

JMO.

Yeah, I think if KB harbored any doubt at all, PF's behavior at the hospital after the birth of their child should've clued her in to drop him like a hot potato if at all possible, based on what we've learned in the latest document releases. She obviously chose the devil she knew over the devil(potentially) she didn't. I truly don't think there was any doubt as to the baby's paternity.

 

[yawningreyhound]

Remember at the beginning of the case when PF didn't bother to show up for the press conference? That was the first clue about this guy - and it was a correct clue.

jmo

It was so fresh coming off the Watts case here in Colorado, the very second they reported KB missing I turned to my SO and said The fiance did it. And the very first time I saw Watts on TV here in colorado, I turned to my SO and said He did it. I've become cynical I guess.

 

[OldLadyBlues]

Reading search warrants, got to the pings of the phones and my head has exploded. The only question I have is what made SF think that posting to Facebook was a good, SMART idea??? «««Edit: Ok, so MG said it's not MaF's FB acct, so I apologize to SF.»»»
However, my next sentence still stands. It is reassuring to know that the apple doesn't fall far from the tree!

 

[ab01]

DBM massguy is already on it

 

[The Saint]

Wow. Read RSlagle's statement to LE. He picked up a package from KB's doorstep on Dec 3. I bet that both he and his wife will be called by the prosecution as witnesses (perhaps hostile witnesses).
Start at pg 13
https://www.courts.state.co.us/user...erest/2018CR330/002/18-111 Search Warrant.pdf
imo

 

[GordianKnot]

https://www.courts.state.co.us/user...erest/2018CR330/002/18-111 Search Warrant.pdf


11/25/2018 at 17:18: "Do you even love me?"

11/25/2018 at 17:20: "Why would I bend over backwards and stand behind you thru everything if I didn't? So to answer your question yes I do"

So, based on PF's choice of words above, I'm now thinking he quite possibly initiated his attack against KB from behind.

I just can't. I can't even.

Oh, Kelsey! You deserved so much more...so very, very much more, and so very, very much better, in your life. You deserved to be cherished, and treasured.

PF is evil personified.

C'mon, Dan. Go get him. You go get this guy.

Stick that needle in his arm.

JMO.

 

[Seattle1]

Ok, so I don’t have packages of human teeth located anywhere in my home. So is this a thing that normal people do?

Or can I assume that it’s more likely that it’s something far more sinister?

Siblings in my family are very competitive. I recall coming home with extracted molars (typical pre-orthodontics) wrapped in gauze and comparing "root lengths." A long root might warrant not having to return to school that day, and maybe even permission for daytime television on a school day. But no, we didn't keep packages of extracted teeth past bragging rights.

ETA: I did keep my puppy's baby tooth in the kitchen window sill for a while after I found it in her dog dish.

 

[Tippy Lynn]

The only thing new that stands out to me from the doc dump today is what CB stated happened at the hospital when baby K was born. I don’t think the 5 teeth are KB’s and the AncestryDNA kit was probably just something KB wanted to do.
jmo

 

[Kapua]

Yeah, I think if KB harbored any doubt at all, PF's behavior at the hospital after the birth of their child should've clued her in to drop him like a hot potato if at all possible, based on what we've learned in the latest document releases. She obviously chose the devil she knew over the devil(potentially) she didn't. I truly don't think there was any doubt as to the baby's paternity.

I personally know women who have bent over backwards to make relationships work so that their child(ren) can have two parents. You probably do, too. I'm convinced that it was a challenging relationship, and I am further convinced that CB knew that it was not all "loving", as she characterized it. MOO

 

[ab01]

https://www.courts.state.co.us/userfiles/file/Court_Probation/04th_Judicial_District/Teller/caseofinterest/2018CR330/002/18-111 Search Warrant.pdf


11/25/2018 at 17:18: "Do you even love me?"

11/25/2018 at 17:20: "Why would I bend over backwards and stand behind you thru everything if I didn't? So to answer your question yes I do"

So, based on PF's choice of words above, I'm now thinking he quite possibly initiated his attack against KB from behind.

I just can't. I can't even.

Oh, Kelsey! You deserved so much more...so very, very much more, and so very, very much better, in your life. You deserved to be cherished, and treasured.

PF is evil personified.

C'mon, Dan. Go get him. You go get this guy.

Stick that needle in his arm.

JMO.

Or use a bat.....yah I’m ok with a bat

 

[yawningreyhound]

Thirteen bathroom locations for blood presence reaction. 13. In one room. KK was a busy beaver. I had to clean operating rooms when I was a surgery vet tech for a few years. The nurse would know how to do this and no wonder it looked good to the naked eye.

 

[srg]

I think this might be overstating what was found.

5 teeth in two bags would technically be “multiple bags”, right?

Teeth. Yep, could be totally normal to have bags of “adult molars in multiple rooms throughout the residence.”

But makes me think of the the murderer in HBO “Sharp Objects” series last year.

It didn’t say anywhere that the teeth were KBs or who they belonged to. Wouldn’t that have been reported?

To keep trophies like teeth, or hair, from victims is typically more common among serial killers.

It’s all just creepy.

 

[Love Never Fails]

Here we go. Poor Sheila, and I’m not talking about PF’s mommy.

The District Attorney's Office just confirmed to News 5 that the Facebook post believed to be posted by Patrick Frazee's mom, Sheila, was in fact posted by someone else. It is *not* Sheila Frazee's account. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney


Sam Kraemer on Twitter

That Shelia (not PFs mom) might want to explain to someone, somewhere just who she was talking about. Just sayin...why was she happy the wicked witch is dead? Inquiring minds want to know.

 

[MassGuy]

Teeth. Yep, coyld be totally normal to have bags of “adult molars in multiple rooms throughout the residence.”

But makes me think of the the murderer in HBO “Sharp Objects” series last year.

It didn’t say anywhere that the teeth were KBs or who they belonged to. Wouldn’t that have been reported?

To keep trophies like teeth, or hair, from victims is typically more common among serial killers.

It’s all just creepy.

Ha! That’s right, I forgot about the teeth in that series.

Yeah, I think if the teeth were believed to be Kelsey’s, it would have mentioned.

Right now, I’m assuming that it’s unrelated, although odd.

This guy is sloppy and stupid, but I don’t see him keeping trophies. This was business for him.

 

[Kapua]

It was so fresh coming off the Watts case here in Colorado, the very second they reported KB missing I turned to my SO and said The fiance did it. And the very first time I saw Watts on TV here in colorado, I turned to my SO and said He did it. I've become cynical I guess.

The last case I followed closely was Mollie Tibbetts, and in that case, the fiancé DIDN'T do it. That seemed as clear to me from the outset as this one did. There are certain indications that I look for. In this case, I was immediately suspicious because he had the child and didn't report her missing. Also, he didn't attend the press conference, or show the slightest concern for her well-being. Those were huge red flags for me from day 1. MOO

 

[yawningreyhound]

Or use a bat.....yah I’m ok with a bat

We're not far from the death penalty going away in Colorado (been 20 years already since the last one). Maybe there will be a bat inside SuperMax.

 

[MassGuy]

The last case I followed closely was Mollie Tibbetts, and in that case, the fiancé DIDN'T do it. That seemed as clear to me from the outset as this one did. There are certain indications that I look for. In this case, I was immediately suspicious because he had the child and didn't report her missing. Also, he didn't attend the press conference, or show the slightest concern for her well-being. Those were huge red flags for me from day 1. MOO

Yeah, I all but accused him of murder on here, when that press conference was going on.

I said this guy didn’t report her missing, didn’t help search for her, and is now not showing up at this very important presser.

That wasn’t just suspicious, it was damning.

 

[v0x]

That Shelia (not PFs mom) might want to explain to someone, somewhere just who she was talking about. Just sayin...why was she happy the wicked witch is dead? Inquiring minds want to know.

I’d guess just a random fan of the movie that was actually talking about the evil witch of the west.

 

[PommyMommy]

Here we go. Poor Sheila, and I’m not talking about PF’s mommy.

The District Attorney's Office just confirmed to News 5 that the Facebook post believed to be posted by Patrick Frazee's mom, Sheila, was in fact posted by someone else. It is *not* Sheila Frazee's account. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney


Sam Kraemer on Twitter

BUMP

 

[yawningreyhound]

The only thing new that stands out to me from the doc dump today is what CB stated happened at the hospital when baby K was born. I don’t think the 5 teeth are KB’s and the AncestryDNA kit was probably just something KB wanted to do.
jmo

Am I remembering correctly that envie was in PF's house, though? THAT's the weird thing. If KB ran it, why was it in PF's house?