CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #47 *ARREST*

[Tippy Lynn]

SF stated that bank records would prove the $700/month child support. BUT there was no custody arrangement and that would mean no child support arrangement. So if PF was taking $700/month out of the family coffers it makes you wonder why and if the money was the reason for murdering KB. If PF was taking $700/month from his mother or the family farm and pretending it was for child support, it would be bad news if KB told SF a different story.

PF lived with his mom and as far as we know he didn’t have a house payment or rent. I think PF made enough money to pay $700/month for child support.
jmo

 

[ilovechili]

Another thing I noted was the taking (or asking for records) of a male's estate checkbook or records, I am guessing PF's dad's estate? This would fit with something I heard elsewhere that cannot be discussed here.

 

[GordianKnot]

Search warrants show text conversations between Kelsey Berreth and Patrick Frazee, what evidence was gathered from his home
[...]

According to evidentiary information listed in one of the warrants, Sheila Frazee told police that her son paid for Berreth’s cell phone, AAA and car insurance, and also gave her $700 a month in child support payments.

RSABBM:

Oh, what have we here?

I spy $$$$$$ issues.

$$$$$$ = Motive.

JMO.

 

[yawningreyhound]

On a bit of a different note, I will admit as I went through most of the warrants after maybe 1/2 of them, I was on overload and did not look through the remaining ones as closely as though with google, facebook, etc., they did not have much info on return of info on the warrants.

If I recall correctly, all blood focused on the bathroom with the exception of they took a living room rug? I saw nothing of taking part of the floor, ceiling, walls, etc. I guess what I am asking, if someone caught things I did not, is if the majority of their blood evidence was the bathroom yet she was allegedly killed in the living room?

IIRC there was blood on the fireplace surround, too, in the living room. The place is small, so living room kitchen appear all connected. But there was def blood in the kitchen as I recall the cinnamon roll cover being discarded by KK due to blood spatter.

 

[ilovechili]

There was also a reference to KB and a money transfer record...

 

[Hatfield]

Agreed. But wouldn’t parents keep baby teeth and not adult teeth? And wouldn’t an adult child think their parents were weird if they asked for a tooth?

I would be worried my Mom needed one or two more to finish the doll and pull a PF bat incident on me to finish the doll.

Seriously though I do understand keeping like a first tooth loss or a lock of first haircut but sewing real teeth into a doll would give me the creeps.

 

[MsJosie]

I agree. Over the years, I've received many boxes of cremated remains shipped to me direct from a funeral home of people that wanted their "ashes" scattered in Alaska. The boxes are heavy, and the appearance is more like box of white sand and shells from the beach. No disrespect intended with my post. MOO

I am wondering if the way the outcome of a cremated body turns out, is due to the laws of the area, the type of incenerator used, the way the family wants the remains to end up looking like. Maybe the longer the body burns, the higher the temperature, the more cost involved. That could be a reason there are so many answers.

 

[PommyMommy]

Patrick Frazee's blow up after daughter's birth prompted call to Social Services, search documents show
However, the spokeswoman for the 4th Judicial District Attorney's Office said Wednesday the “witch” comment was not posted by Frazee's mother.

"It's just a very strange coincidence, but it is not Patrick Frazee's mother," Lee Richards said. "They saw it, they investigated it and it was not Patrick Frazee's mother."

 

[ilovechili]

IIRC there was blood on the fireplace surround, too, in the living room. The place is small, so living room kitchen appear all connected. But there was def blood in the kitchen as I recall the cinnamon roll cover being discarded by KK due to blood spatter.

Also cookie cutters, curtains. Refrigerator was wiped down per KB family, etc. To me the pictures of this unit to me look like the kitchen is somewhat separated meaning not an open floor plan to the living room...

 

[kizzykat]

I'm pages behind.

A couple thoughts:

1) Facebook. Somewhere buried in it all, I believe KK told LE she communicated with PF through FB IM (?). KK told LE she deleted these exchanges because she didn't want CL to find them.

2) Teeth around the house. I've known older folks (SF's age and older) who kept pulled teeth if the teeth had silver or gold crowns or fillings. They'd always talk about how it wasn't worth much, but hey, better for them to have the value than the dentist.

That might account for the teeth in SF's house, but I doubt explains PF's trophy collection.

3) I saw great conflict between the members of a family on a family phone plan when the 'owner' of the plan started snooping on the calls of other family members.

PF had visibility of all of KB's phone call activity. I wonder if he saw perfectly innocent phone calls and jumped to conclusions. IIRC, there was a reference to a Southwest pilot, possibly someone named Eric. KB either didn't know or didn't care because she had nothing to hide.

BBM
Yes, one of the search warrants I read was only a couple pages but it was all for obtaining Facebook info. And with all the specific items they listed, it sounds like they can see pretty much any activity on a Facebook account, just as the account owner would. Maybe they have the means to see her deleted history?
I'd link to it but I can't remember where it was. I think it was among the #19-xx warrants on the list.

 

[yawningreyhound]

I would be worried my Mom needed one or two more to finish the doll and pull a PF bat incident on me to finish the doll.

Seriously though I do understand keeping like a first tooth loss or a lock of first haircut but sewing real teeth into a doll would give me the creeps.

Which begs the question: What DOES the tooth fairy do with all those teeth?

 

[yawningreyhound]

Also cookie cutters, curtains. Refrigerator was wiped down per KB family, etc. To me the pictures of this unit to me look like the kitchen is somewhat separated meaning not an open floor plan to the living room...

I should've checked before I opined. Thank you!!!!!

 

[Sweetsbeach]

First time mom goes into labor 3 weeks early. The hospital takes extra precautions and PF goes off the handle that the baby isn't in the room with KB. Imagine what nurses deal with all the time....they are not new to upset family members and they know to remain calm in a crisis. Yet, someone was so disturbed and concerned about him that they wanted to check everything out before allowing the baby to be with her parents.

Whoa.

That is a rough start to motherhood for KB.

I know people like PF (well, not exactly like him)....and one way they are abusive is ruining happy occasions, though they justify it. PF was upset about "not being able to bond" with the newborn, as if his demonstration at the hospital was in anyway supportive and bonding for new mom and baby.

Signs were there, but who would predict it would end up like it did....I mean, other than the several people who knew he wanted to kill her.

jmo

I agree. PF thought bonding was important...I guess being calm and supportive when your partner and baby just went through the birth process didn't seem at all important to him though.
He didn't give a crap about what was important right after birth. All he cared about was being in control, his needs, getting his way...etc.
I for one can't wait until PF is sentenced to spend each day of the rest of his life behind bars, completely losing control of his existence until he goes straight to hell.

 

[steeltowngirl]

There must be 50 documents out there. I’m just going to ask.. if someone has gone through them all, could you possibly list the top 3 WOW items? Pretty please?

 

[ilovechili]

Which begs the question: What DOES the tooth fairy do with all those teeth?

Do not make me start wondering about that!

 

[ab01]

So on 12/6 PF and an unknown male went to ENT bank and asked to review video footage of him on 11/22. Asked if A car carrier and child was visible on the atm video. And when he finds out that it is in fact on video he states forget we were even here......What a dolt!

 

[ilovechili]

I should've checked before I opined. Thank you!!!!!

I was actually agreeing with you meaning this attack was not just one attack, it seems, if we can believe what we are given to understand, that there were more than a few rooms involved...

 

[Inthedetails]

Do not make me start wondering about that!

I know! I have spent the last few minutes thinking about this, lol.

All I know is the Tooth Fairy leaves cash in exchange for the teeth. Never questioned anything beyond that.

 

[Inthedetails]

So on 12/6 PF and an unknown male went to ENT bank and asked to review video footage of him on 11/22. Asked if A car carrier and child was visible on the atm video. And when he finds out that it is in fact on video he states forget we were even here......What a dolt!

Do you have a link? I'm not doubting you at all - just want to read it and I'm lost in the documents. Thanks.

 

[acutename]

As Homicide Hunter says. "well My My My.
It's a treasure trove of evidence. They didn't just get PF's phone records.
I can see more arrest on the horizon.
MOO
TICK TOCK.

wonder if his shoes showed anything ....and he has a lot of gray shirts