CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #47 *ARREST*

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This case has disturbed me so much, we moved back into our other home. Couldn't stand walking my old route w dog. Or thinking of possibly seeing that creep KKL walking down Fairview to potentially murder KB. .. THREE times. Im almost positive I've seen PF around while walking , and acknowledging each other , he was in truck turning. It hits too close to home. And makes me so sad. What a mess KB was in. I'm so sorry he pulled her away from everything she knew. And she thrived. He resented her. Couldn't believe he could co parent and she didn't need him.
 
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The maternity hospital scene struck me as so odd.

How did PF become an authority on parents bonding with their newborns and what made him so passionate on this?

Does it sound a lot like Mama's influence to you? (She certainly bonded well with PF, it seems.)

This does lend more credence to why PF wanted KB out of the picture so there was no threat to his (and Mama's) custody of Baby KB.

I've met folks who believe you can 'imprint' on a newborn foal or puppy to create an almost unbreakable bond. Maybe PF is applying the principles he used in dog-breeding.
 
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BBM:

You may not be able to, but I certainly can, and have, dismissed it as a possibility.
I've never entertained that suggestion as even a remote possibility.

There is no information out there that I've seen to indicate that KB was involved in any other intimate relationships with any men other than PF at the time she became pregnant with Baby K.

Nobody is making the claim that KB waited until marriage to have sex. Clearly.

That doesn't mean that KB didn't maintain monogamous relationships.

IMO, it's a ludicrous suggestion that KB would order an Ancestry DNA kit to try to establish paternity for Baby K. when that's not at all what those kits are designed to do.


JMO.

I would respectfully submit that I don't think it's beyond the realm of possibility that PF thought the kit was the same as a DNA kit.
 
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The dress part 2?

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I’ve seen his outfit described as green and white striped in reports. Am I the only one seeing medium green and mint green here?

Search warrants in Patrick Frazee case released to the public

and here is the green and white...
 
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I would respectfully submit that I don't think it's beyond the realm of possibility that PF thought the kit was the same as a DNA kit.

My thought is I am sad to say just like he breeds dogs or cattle, he wanted her to prove that she and his daughter come from decent enough stock for the Frazees... Gag. If there is a family I would wonder about, it would be his...
 
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I've met folks who believe you can 'imprint' on a newborn foal or puppy to create an almost unbreakable bond. Maybe PF is applying the principles he used in dog-breeding.

I'm still in the camp that thinks one of those newly-shoed horses imprinted on PF's prefrontal cortex!

"Damage to brain limits empathy / Prefrontal cortex injury found to alter moral judgment. Damage to the part of the brain that controls social emotions changes the way people respond to thorny moral problems, demonstrating the role of empathy and other feelings in life-or-death decisions."
 
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I've met folks who believe you can 'imprint' on a newborn foal or puppy to create an almost unbreakable bond. Maybe PF is applying the principles he used in dog-breeding.

I gotta ask.....when KB went into labor, was her mother informed and did she show up? The ONLY reason I ask is because I don't think CB would have taken very kindly to PF's behaviour.
MOO, MOO
 
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Anyone have any idea why the Wizard of Oz would be of interest??
 
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This case has disturbed me so much, we moved back into our other home. Couldn't stand walking my old route w dog. Or thinking of possibly seeing that creep KKL walking down Fairview to potentially murder KB. .. THREE times. Im almost positive I've seen PF around while walking , and acknowledging each other , he was in truck turning. It hits too close to home. And makes me so sad. What a mess KB was in. I'm so sorry he pulled her away from everything she knew. And she thrived. He resented her. Couldn't believe he could co parent and she didn't need him.

You have to do what you have to do to deal with stress and this case so close to home would be awful to deal with. You worry about every possible trace of the crime or the criminals.

I appreciate your input so much

Yes, I,too believe kind, decent, strong KB was in a terrible situation.

She's a pilot instructor. She's so independent and strong to want to do that job. She's successful in a man's world. I don't think he would value that much. All he really wanted was that baby.

When I read all this, I think she must have been in terrible isolation trying to deal with this continual stress with a man she once thought she loved. It's a terrible place to be in life.

I truly want PF to rot as an old, old ugly man, and KKL to end up in a women's prison for life. These are horrible people
 
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I’m still seeing mint green there. Lol.

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Okay lol. Regardless he is in horizontal stripes... :) Mint, green, white or not. :)
 
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I'm still in the camp that thinks one of those newly-shoed horses imprinted on PF's prefrontal cortex!

"Damage to brain limits empathy / Prefrontal cortex injury found to alter moral judgment. Damage to the part of the brain that controls social emotions changes the way people respond to thorny moral problems, demonstrating the role of empathy and other feelings in life-or-death decisions."
He was a jerk to animals before this, and was likely kicked in the head because he was being his usual self.

Sometimes the animals fight back.

It certainly didn’t make him any smarter, but I’m convinced that his abusive behavior predates him being injured by “Mr. Ed.”
 
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Anyone have any idea why the Wizard of Oz would be of interest??

Bc of a post on Facebook that ended up not being related to the case...moo
 
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What am I missing? I don’t see anywhere in the document that says PF was seen on the surveillance at her home. Is there another document?
 
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He was a jerk to animals before this, and was likely kicked in the head because he was being his usual self.

Sometimes the animals fight back.

It certainly didn’t make him any smarter, but I’m convinced that his abusive behavior predates him being injured by “Mr. Ed.”

Wilbur Post: (to Mister Ed) Why didn’t you talk to my wife?
Mister Ed: I hate skeptics!
 
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I noticed on Page 11 of the search warrant (criminal action 18-111 page 11 of 30) that Patrick was seen at Walmart on 11/22 at 13:00 hrs and according to his ENT credit union records he has a Walmart transaction at 15:13, also on the 22nd. Was he at Walmart twice on the 22nd, could the transaction have taken approx 2hrs to post after he paid, or is there an error in the time of transaction listed in SW?
 
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What am I missing? I don’t see anywhere in the document that says PF was seen on the surveillance at her home. Is there another document?

There are actually like 45 documents. It does mention in one of them that he was seen on neighbors camera, but don’t ask me which one or where.
Colorado Judicial Branch
 
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What am I missing? I don’t see anywhere in the document that says PF was seen on the surveillance at her home. Is there another document?
I think it was originally stated in the AA that a person matching his description and stature was captured on the neighbors cam
 
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