CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #48 *ARREST*

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I'm going to state this and please don't take this as blaming in any way.

It is really too bad that LE wasn't heavily involved quicker to when KB was last heard from.

Unlike say Christopher Watts, KK, PF and others had alot of time to try to cover their tracks.

Some things they apparently were fairly successful of disposing of.

Other things, as time went on they further implicated themselves.

But I do believe if somebody had shown up at PF house on that first or second day, the evidence would be much more clear cut...MOO

I hate it when these monsters are able to get such a head start!
 
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I'm going to state this and please don't take this as blaming in any way.

It is really too bad that LE wasn't heavily involved quicker to when KB was last heard from.

Unlike say Christopher Watts, KK, PF and others had alot of time to try to cover their tracks.

Some things they apparently were fairly successful of disposing of.

Other things, as time went on they further implicated themselves.

But I do believe if somebody had showed up at PF house on that first or second day, the evidence would be much more clear cut...MOO

I hate it when these monsters are able to get such a head start!
Even more disheartening that LE wasn’t notified & involved before it occurred.
 
  • #723
I know and that's why I'm asking! It's impossible to keep unless one can stay at the computer all of the time. Were the father figure guy who picked up the package or the woman whose name KK's phone traced back to implicated in any way?
Read pg 11 of one of the main LE documents. (I'll try to find the date)--- R Slagle's statement to the police. He is the father figure. PF's cell phone was tracked to the Slagle's house in Guffey Nov 22 and 23rd. According to KKL, PF stored KB's dead body in a black tote and hid it in a barn (the Slagles' barn?). PF later removed it and burned
the tote w/ KB's body on a haystack.

I believe that RS is the man captured in a CCTV removing a box from KB's condo doorstep on Dec 3rd. He also seems to be the man who accompanied PF to the bank.

imo
 
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General concensus on bathroom etiquette is that both the seat and the lid should be closed when finished.

Yes on the seat but if you added up all the time spent closing the lid, imagine how much could be accomplished in a lifetime. Just sayin'.
 
  • #726
Yes on the seat but if you added up all the time spent closing the lid, imagine how much could be accomplished in a lifetime. Just sayin'.
lol. Clearly both could be closed in one swift motion for efficiency.
 
  • #727
Even with what they found with the Blue star?

I'm pretty convinced the Bluestar came through enough for them to declare a murder had occurred.
 
  • #728
Gaah! Even in PF's fake response to KB's fake text asking if he even still loved her, he can't help but to puff himself up by saying how "he's stuck by her through all this etc" <paraphrasing>. This defendant is a true psychopath IMO. When I think things can't get any more bizarre, they do.:(

I saw this coming from a mile away.

Threads ago, when we were discussing what the fake texts might’ve said, I surmised that Patrick probably had Kelsey text something like “you’ve been such a stand up guy, etc etc” to make himself look good. We didn’t know he’d texted back at that time. Now we know he did. And sure enough he portrayed himself aglow with goodness.

A far cry from the evil man he really is.
 
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We’ve artificially insemnated cows for years. Much less expensive than hiring a bull

There are things you want to think about while sitting on the sofa eating a jelly donut and reading Websleuths comments. This isn't one of them, lindaromas! : > 0
 
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Patrick Frazee, suspect in Kelsey Berreth's disappearance, called 'monster' by ex-girlfriend

“He's a very, very complicated individual. And he's very, very smart. And, like I said, he can read people really well. And he knew how to press people's buttons.”

Say what ?? Smart??o_O What the hell am I missing?
Sociopath is what I am thinking. I work with young individuals with this type of personality. They really are a difficult group to deal with. Very emotionally draining and difficult to assess. Once you do it is often too late to figure out how to successfully deal with their behaviors. These types of individuals are very successful in making sure you are isolated in your feelings. I’m betting PF made her feel insignificant and incapable of feeling she was a good Mom. She never reached out for help because he made her feel like she was ill. What a travesty when the sociopaths can do this to a perfectly fit mother!
 
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I'm going to state this and please don't take this as blaming in any way.

It is really too bad that LE wasn't heavily involved quicker to when KB was last heard from.

Unlike say Christopher Watts, KK, PF and others had alot of time to try to cover their tracks.

Some things they apparently were fairly successful of disposing of.

Other things, as time went on they further implicated themselves.

But I do believe if somebody had showed up at PF house on that first or second day, the evidence would be much more clear cut...MOO

I hate it when these monsters are able to get such a head start!

IIRC it was a close friend of Shanann Watts who got things going quickly after her disappearance.

I wish Kelsey had had a friend close by who would have done the same.
 
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IIRC it was a close friend of Shanann Watts who got things going quickly after her disappearance.

I wish Kelsey had had a friend close by who would have done the same.
I wish she did too but I’m sure PF made sure she had no close friends .. part of the sociopath tendencies
 
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IIRC it was a close friend of Shanann Watts who got things going quickly after her disappearance.

I wish Kelsey had had a friend close by who would have done the same.

Yep unfortunately PF was to controlling for that to have been the case.....MOO
 
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Read pg 11 of one of the main LE documents. (I'll try to find the date)--- R Slagle's statement to the police. He is the father figure. PF's cell phone was tracked to the Slagle's house in Guffey Nov 22 and 23rd. According to KKL, PF stored KB's dead body in a black tote and hid it in a barn (the Slagles' barn?). PF later removed it and burned
the tote w/ KB's body on a haystack.

I believe that RS is the man captured in a CCTV removing a box from KB's condo doorstep on Dec 3rd. He also seems to be the man who accompanied PF to the bank.

imo

The tote was stashed at Nash Ranch. Remember cadaver dog hit on the bale of hay. I was just wondering if that guy was involved, or is suspected of being involved, in destruction of evidence.
 
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Yep unfortunately PF was to controlling for that to have been the case.....MOO

The delay in the investigation lays squarely at the feet of that wretched whatever-she-is, KK.
 
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It's on!!!! It might be quiet here for an hour.
 
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I'm going to state this and please don't take this as blaming in any way.

It is really too bad that LE wasn't heavily involved quicker to when KB was last heard from.

Unlike say Christopher Watts, KK, PF and others had alot of time to try to cover their tracks.

Some things they apparently were fairly successful of disposing of.

Other things, as time went on they further implicated themselves.

But I do believe if somebody had shown up at PF house on that first or second day, the evidence would be much more clear cut...MOO

I hate it when these monsters are able to get such a head start!
It’s not all bad. The amount of time he had to cover his tracks, works both ways.

It allowed him to basically dig his own grave, by creating a damning (false) digital trail.

It also allowed him to tell numerous lies to multiple credible people, lies that will inevitably come back to bite him in the 🤬🤬🤬.

It sucks that he got a head start, but it won’t matter in the end.
 
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