CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #53 *ARREST*

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Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV 42s42 seconds ago



Viehman asks why those are both required. Rogers says the lab is contained within a state law enforcement building with sensitive information, so those policies are to protect that. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney

 

[PommyMommy]

Sam Kraemer on Twitter
Rogers says the buccal swab is taken to tell whether DNA evidence in the lab has been contaminated. They are taken for anyone that has entered a lab across the state. It verifies the evidence — and not someone just in the lab. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney
9:12 AM - 14 Jun 2019

Sam Kraemer on Twitter
Viehman asks if the background check & buccal swab collection must always be followed. Rogers says yes. The only exception to the buccal swab would be if they’ve already visited a lab. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney
9:13 AM - 14 Jun 2019

Carol McKinley on Twitter
Caitlyn Rogers, a DNA expert from the Colorado Bureau of Investigation/Pueblo office explains why defense experts MUST have a background check and buccal swabs whenever they enter a lab. Defense has asked for an explanation. #kelseyberreth #patrickfrazee @ABC
9:13 AM - 14 Jun 2019

Sam Kraemer on Twitter
Judge Sells inquires on the type of background check. Rogers says the CBI unit responsible for firearm background checks conducts it in line with NCIC protocol. They’re looking for outstanding warrants & such. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney
9:14 AM - 14 Jun 2019

 

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Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV 22s22 seconds ago



Rogers says the buccal swab is taken to tell whether DNA evidence in the lab has been contaminated. They are taken for anyone that has entered a lab across the state. It verifies the evidence — and not someone just in the lab. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney

 

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Ashley Franco‏ @AshleyKKTV 19s19 seconds ago


Defense is worried about CBI guidelines when it comes to having a defense expert come into the lab to be present while the consumptive testing happens. Rogers says they follow a strict policy when defense experts come in. @KKTV11News #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee

 

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Carol McKinley‏ @CarolAMcKinley 20s20 seconds ago


Caitlyn Rogers, a DNA expert from the Colorado Bureau of Investigation/Pueblo office explains why defense experts MUST have a background check and buccal swabs whenever they enter a lab. Defense has asked for an explanation. #kelseyberreth #patrickfrazee @ABC

 

[steeltowngirl]

Sam Kraemer on Twitter
Viehman says she thinks statute is more focused on whether the testing is admissible, not the parameters of a defense expert being present. Porter says the objections deal with the lab’s policies. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney
9:02 AM - 14 Jun 2019

Sam Kraemer on Twitter
Judge Scott Sells says he studied case law. He wants to decide on this today. The state is calling Katelyn Rogers (unsure on spelling) with the Colorado Bureau of Investigation. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney
9:03 AM - 14 Jun 2019

Ashley Franco on Twitter
Prosecutors are calling in Katlin Rogers (not sure on spelling) with CBI. She is testifying today over the phone. @KKTV11News #PatrickFrazee #KelseyBerreth
9:04 AM - 14 Jun 2019

My my, Judge Sells is testy and sarcastic today.

Sam Kraemer on Twitter
Judge Scott Sells says he studied case law.

 

[Seattle1]

Carol McKinley‏ @CarolAMcKinley
Caitlyn Rogers, a DNA expert from the Colorado Bureau of Investigation/Pueblo office explains why defense experts MUST have a background check and buccal swabs whenever they enter a lab. Defense has asked for an explanation. #kelseyberreth #patrickfrazee @ABC

8:13 AM - 14 Jun 2019 pst

 

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Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV 23s23 seconds ago


Judge Sells inquires on the type of background check. Rogers says the CBI unit responsible for firearm background checks conducts it in line with NCIC protocol. They’re looking for outstanding warrants & such. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney

 

[GordianKnot]

Serology is the scientific study of serum and other bodily fluids. In practice, the term usually refers to the diagnostic identification of antibodies in the serum.

Exactly.

As we all thought, this is going to be some type of blood evidence that requires consumptive testing.

JMO.

 

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Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV 21s21 seconds ago



Viehman asks Rogers what a sample split is. She says they try to maintain half of the sample, but when they take a sample through the DNA extraction process, the extract goes through a quantification process to determine how much is usable. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee

 

[PommyMommy]

Sam Kraemer on Twitter
It’s extremely sensitive, she says. They don’t need a lot of DNA to get the results they need. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney
9:16 AM - 14 Jun 2019

Ashley Franco on Twitter
Rogers says usually they do a sample split, split evidence in half to preserve it. Sometimes evidence is too small so they can’t do that. She’s explaining how they usually test evidence this small. Still don’t know what this evidence is. @KKTV11News #PatrickFrazee #KelseyBerreth
9:16 AM - 14 Jun 2019

 

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Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV 25s25 seconds ago


It’s extremely sensitive, she says. They don’t need a lot of DNA to get the results they need. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney

 

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Rogers says usually they do a sample split, split evidence in half to preserve it. Sometimes evidence is too small so they can’t do that. She’s explaining how they usually test evidence this small. Still don’t know what this evidence is. @KKTV11News #PatrickFrazee #KelseyBerreth

 

[PommyMommy]

Okay, okay, WHAT is it? TELL US, lol!

 

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Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV 18s18 seconds ago


Right now, they believe the piece of evidence is too small. But if they determined in their test (the quantification of the DNA extract) that the amount of DNA is sufficient, they can split the extract so another entity can test the DNA too. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee

 

[PommyMommy]

Sam Kraemer on Twitter
Right now, they believe the piece of evidence is too small. But if they determined in their test (the quantification of the DNA extract) that the amount of DNA is sufficient, they can split the extract so another entity can test the DNA too. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee
9:18 AM - 14 Jun 2019

Sam Kraemer on Twitter
Cross-examination now happening. Porter asks if having defense experts being present is a normalcy. Rogers says she hasn’t had an expert present for her testing, but that it does happen. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney
9:19 AM - 14 Jun 2019

Ashley Franco on Twitter
She says if the small piece of evidence has enough DNA it’s possible for them to split the DNA for both the prosecution and defense. @KKTV11News #PatrickFrazee #KelseyBerreth
9:19 AM - 14 Jun 2019

 

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Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV 17s17 seconds ago



Cross-examination now happening. Porter asks if having defense experts being present is a normalcy. Rogers says she hasn’t had an expert present for her testing, but that it does happen. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney

 

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Ashley Franco‏ @AshleyKKTV 39s39 seconds ago


She says if the small piece of evidence has enough DNA it’s possible for them to split the DNA for both the prosecution and defense. @KKTV11News

 

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Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV 24s24 seconds ago



Porter asks if they generally have a forensic background. Rogers says it varies. Porter asks what the expert can do, which is just stand there and observe. They can’t touch the testing or evidence. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney

 

[PommyMommy]

Sam Kraemer on Twitter
Porter asks if they generally have a forensic background. Rogers says it varies. Porter asks what the expert can do, which is just stand there and observe. They can’t touch the testing or evidence. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney
9:20 AM - 14 Jun 2019

Sam Kraemer on Twitter
Porter asks for statistics on how often a sample has been contaminated. Rogers says she doesn’t know. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney
9:20 AM - 14 Jun 2019

Sam Kraemer on Twitter
Rogers says they try to confirm the sample is uncontaminated before testing it for a result. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney
9:21 AM - 14 Jun 2019