CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #6

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  • #261
I've been trying to find a source for all the things PF has said. If there's one, please link me up. As far as I know he's radio silent. tia
I think we only know bits and pieces of what relatives have claimed he told them...and of course what his lawyer has said.
 
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I almost totally agree that it could be roughly a one man affair. I just am not sure they’d bother to go 700ish miles to create a false ping. Why not 200? Unless someone had to go there on business already...
I wonder if there is a lake nearby? They could throw the phone out there. Not sure about the body, the things that come to my mind are connected with the farm, and not nice.
 
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Um, that update is Yesterday's date. Somehow I think the media in that update has something wrong because based on the time that is shortly after the Police Chief got done saying that they would like to have PF sit down with investigators and that he hadn't.
Yeah, sum ting wong. @MassGuy's gonna get us on the right path. :D
MOO
 
  • #265
Is backhoe standard just so they can poke around anywhere the ground looks soft? Or is that reason to think they might have found something in your opinion?
 
  • #266
Is backhoe standard just so they can poke around anywhere the ground looks soft? Or is that reason to think they might have found something in your opinion?
My thinking is the search identified areas where a body could have been buried.

They then brought in the backhoe to excavate.

Searching someone’s property wouldn’t normally involve a backhoe, as that’s quite invasive.
 
  • #267
Jen, do Brits call them "diggers?" That is what the DM reported yesterday.
MOO
I am Australian but we have back hoes which are small and excavators called diggers, which are much larger.
 
  • #268
My thinking is the search identified areas where a body could have been buried.

They then brought in the backhoe to excavate.

Searching someone’s property wouldn’t normally involve a backhoe, as that’s quite invasive.
That’s sort of what I was thinking, but it did prove fruitful to dig up those areas in that Cosmo case...
 
  • #269
Is backhoe standard just so they can poke around anywhere the ground looks soft? Or is that reason to think they might have found something in your opinion?
They think they may have something......MOO
 
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My thinking is the search identified areas where a body could have been buried.

They then brought in the backhoe to excavate.

Searching someone’s property wouldn’t normally involve a backhoe, as that’s quite invasive.
I think that they may have to have found some recently disturbed earth. MOO.
 
  • #271
That’s sort of what I was thinking, but it did prove fruitful to dig up those areas in that Cosmo case...
It hasn’t proved fruitful in numerous cases. But they have to do their due diligence. This is their best shot.
 
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I almost totally agree that it could be roughly a one man affair. I just am not sure they’d bother to go 700ish miles to create a false ping. Why not 200? Unless someone had to go there on business already...

700 makes it more believable that she would be away for awhile. With 200, it could be just an overnight trip. But 700 says she might be out of communication longer. JMO
 
  • #274
I think we only know bits and pieces of what relatives have claimed he told them...and of course what his lawyer has said.

Do you mean the family posts here on WS? I'll gladly go through them and make a list of facts to help keep us on track If it's facebook, well I don't go there much.
 
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I think that they may have to have found some recently disturbed earth. MOO.
That would be my guess as well.

If he buried her on his property, then creating a false trail hundreds of miles away from that property, makes a hell of a lot of sense.
 
  • #277
multi-jurisdictional task force is searching the 35-acre property of Patrick Frazee, who has NOT been ruled out as a suspect in Berreth’s disappearance. <modsnip rumor>
The police chief spoke to the public just hours after a search warrant was executed on the property belonging to Kelsey's fiance Patrick Frazee. Police said they could spend up to three days searching the property. Information on why the search warrant was obtained is sealed off from the public. 11 News was just outside the property when they saw Frazee's vehicle towed away.
According to KKTV NEWS channel 11 news
Right and toss on a hat, winter coat...he’s a tall white guy in Colorado, you know? If the driver wasn’t paying extreme attention, or drives daily, he or she may not remember.

Did LE say they found evidence in his truck or did they just take it to check for evidence?
 
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Is backhoe standard just so they can poke around anywhere the ground looks soft? Or is that reason to think they might have found something in your opinion?
Do they have to dig up bones to rule out if they are a large animal or not? I'm sure there's been plenty of those buried there.
 
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Does PF have any land, hunting cabins, land leases near Gooding? I’ve seen comments that he’s a hunter...does he have a cabin/spot he frequents. Does he have friends, do they know?
I noticed there is lots horse, cattle activity.
On Gooding website.
http://www.goodingidaho.org
 
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