CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #8

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I thought about this too... Unless he pulled a CW and backed the truck up to the garage and nobody noticed. I thought I heard somewhere a person has to be deceased at least 15 min for a cadaver dog to pick up a scent.

I’m pretty sure they can pick up scents of gasses released from a dead body in a matter of SECONDS. I remember researching cadaver dogs for another case.
 
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I've missed this info somehow. Can anyone link the article? @PommyMommy ? :)

I went and looked, and can't remember where I read it.. It might not have been an msm article so I'm deleting it. Sorry :/
 
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I don't paint my comments as fact or inside info, but speculation ie. could have, perhaps, maybe.
He (or she) said IF Kelsey was going on a date for dinner. Clearly speculation, just like what we’re all doing.

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Is that true? How old was the child who said daddy hurt mommy and she was in the rug? Anyone remember that case?
Jessie Davis. I think her son was at least 2-yo.
 
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You keep mentioning a girlfriend. Do you know he had a girlfriend and if so how?

This was/is speculation on my part, but given it's been reported in the news, albeit a British tabloid, that he cheated on a former girlfriend, there is a reasonable chance there may be one and it may have been the cause of the break up? If there is a girlfriend, I'm sure LE already know this. If so, now they have to search video for her too from Colorado to Idaho. KB's phone went to Idaho....with someone.
 
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If he took her phone to Idaho what did he tell his mom? I wonder if he drove right there, dumped the phone and possibly KB, how long the round trip would have taken. Maybe his mom was used to him being gone with KB for days at a time. My gut tells me his mom knows the truth and will cover for him. IF he did it.
 
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Has it been reported whether PF and KB have any formal custody arrangements, specifically whether or not PF is required to pay child support?
 
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If he took her phone to Idaho what did he tell his mom? I wonder if he drove right there, dumped the phone and possibly KB, how long the round trip would have taken. Maybe his mom was used to him being gone with KB for days at a time. My gut tells me his mom knows the truth and will cover for him. IF he did it.

neighbors said he was always at her house. perhaps his mom didn't think nothing of him being gone for 20~ hours
 
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Also, do you remember that astronaut or NASA related lady that drove to Florida to kill her ex and she had gas cans and also wore diapers (!!) so she didn't have to stop for gas or to use the restroom!!

Yes! Creepy!!!
 
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neighbors said he was always at her house. perhaps his mom didn't think nothing of him being gone for 20~ hours
Not until she went missing, that is.
 
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If he took her phone to Idaho what did he tell his mom? I wonder if he drove right there, dumped the phone and possibly KB, how long the round trip would have taken. Maybe his mom was used to him being gone with KB for days at a time. My gut tells me his mom knows the truth and will cover for him. IF he did it.
Yeah. I agree.

That trip would have taken close to an entire day. Factor in the possible body disposal, and you have a period of time that is likely well over 24 hours.

She almost certainly would have been the one watching the baby.

Hopefully they eventually gather enough evidence to bring this before a grand jury, so they can subpoena her.

If this is in fact a crime, of course.
 
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This was/is speculation on my part, but given it's been reported in the news, albeit a British tabloid, that he cheated on a former girlfriend, there is a reasonable chance there may be one and it may have been the cause of the break up? If there is a girlfriend, I'm sure LE already know this. If so, now they have to search video for her too from Colorado to Idaho. KB's phone went to Idaho....with someone.

It is actually being reported by a tabloid that the boyfriend of a person PF used to date said that the girlfriend told him that PF cheated on her while she was in the hospital. It doesn't say how the girlfriend knew that this was the truth. In other words, double hearsay from a witness without personal knowledge and unconfirmed. This is where you have to think about what you are reading in the DM.
 
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The death penalty is irrelevant in Colorado. Only one inmate has been executed in the last 41 years.
They still have it and it was enough to persuade Watts to plead guilty.
 
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neighbors said he was always at her house. perhaps his mom didn't think nothing of him being gone for 20~ hours

Shoot. Good point.
 
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I’m pretty sure they can pick up scents of gasses released from a dead body in a matter of SECONDS. I remember researching cadaver dogs for another case.
Do we know if they have taken cadaver dogs to her house?
 
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How do we know they didn't find a scent?

I mean there is a reason they were able to obtain a search warrant of his property.

Just assuming since they said they still have hope that she is alive.
 
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I thought about this too... Unless he pulled a CW and backed the truck up to the garage and nobody noticed. I thought I heard somewhere a person has to be deceased at least 15 min for a cadaver dog to pick up a scent.

Do we have pictures of her house, by chance?
 
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