CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #9

[MyBelle]

Oh snap! You are correct. It does seem a little odd for there not to be any search parties organized. If it weren't for that ping in Idaho, I bet there would be searches around Woodland Park.

It's been nearly a month. There were no search parties using volunteers for Mollie Tibbetts after the first week. She was found several miles from her community and LE was led to the location by the accused. JMO

 

[susiQ]

Nope. He his following his Lawyer's good advice..... Innocent or guilty, he is protecting his life and freedom.....MOOOOOOO

Too bad he didn't protect Kelsey

 

[Bill Carson]

Exactly. We’re all familiar with people going off and killing themselves.

We’re familiar with situations where people walk away from their lives.

We’re familiar with foul play.

The latter is now my focus, as there are things that pretty clearly point in that direction.

This case doesn’t have any similarities to situations where the first two scenarios have occurred.

Those things happen, but not in this way.

Not with these facts, scarce as they may be.

This case doesn't have similarities to situations where the first two scenarios have occurred that we are permitted to talk about. I'll leave it at that.

As for foul play, we have to, ISTM, keep our eyes open for black swans.

 

[bestill]

Could and would LE leave some type of surveillance onsite to monitor the happenings in the house and they went back to pick it today?

 

[ZsaZsa]

Holy crap.

Maybe they can put in a pool now.

Shame to let that hole go to waste.

Are they looking for something in the septic system?

 

[Jethro4WS]

When it comes to the mentions of Gooding there is no clarification as to whether they mean the town or the county

Gooding, ID - the town (boundaries)
Google Maps

Gooding County, ID (boundaries)
Google Maps

 

[Bill Carson]

Could and would LE leave some type of surveillance onsite to monitor the happenings in the house and they went back to pick it today?

That's a disturbing thought.

 

[MassGuy]

Are they looking for something in the septic system?

Could be!

They had a reason to dig there, that’s for sure.

 

[cody22]

Wow interesting they dug right in front of the house. That seems like a strange place to bury something.

I wonder if a dog picked up the scent of death there. That area is close to that cattle/horse pen where a dead animal would have been drug out of , to lay for disposal, in the past.

 

[susiQ]

This makes me wonder about the possibility that PF took KB and baby to Idaho...either under duress or with a story..."Hey, let's go surprise your family with our engagement!" and has her text...or he does...and disappears her at some point...then drives back. Could it even have been in one of her cars? Do we know if her cars were both there the entire time? Lots of holes though.

That would bring me back to those cinnamon rolls.

BTW, wasn't it mentioned that CB said she also "loved her dog?" Where was the dog found?

 

[Lady Justice21]

Some similarities. Neither family had any idea suicide was on their minds. None at all.
Jennifer takes the car to do errands and Leanne goes for a walk with her backpack carrying rope.
It happens.

I've come back to this theory in my head many many times, because there are pieces that lead me there. Every single time I hit the brick wall of the phone ping and texts 3 days later in addition to her cars being at home and no plane missing. It steers me back every single time.

Genuine question: how are you overcoming those 2 things in that thought process?

Thanks and MOO

 

[MassGuy]

That would bring me back to those cinnamon rolls.

BTW, wasn't it mentioned that CB said she also "loved her dog?" Where was the dog found?

Lol. It was “God.”

That’s another road we probably don’t need to go down.

 

[GoJacks]

Patrick Frazee spotted in public at waste management facility, police return to his property

Employees at the company in Teller County also tell us they saw Frazee at the facility dropping off trash from a long trailer with two other men. Witnesses say Frazee remained in a white pickup truck as the two other men, who drove in two separate cars, unloaded the trailer.

The trash was later collected by police and it's been reported a few of the items were taken away by police for further investigation.


ohhhh boy.

 

[Hatfield]

Are they looking for something in the septic system?

Great guess.

I have a septic tank and the location of that digging would be just about right for a septic tank. If it is slightly downhill from the home then I would be certain of it because they typically like to put them slightly on the downgrade slope.

 

[MassGuy]

Patrick Frazee spotted in public at waste management facility, police return to his property

Employees at the company in Teller County also tell us they saw Frazee at the facility dropping off trash from a long trailer with two other men. Witnesses say Frazee remained in a white pickup truck as the two other men, who drove in two separate cars, unloaded the trailer.

The trash was later collected by police and it's been reported a few of the items were taken away by police for further investigation.


ohhhh boy.

Wow. This is encouraging though:

“The trash was later collected by police and it's been reported a few of the items were taken away by police for further investigation.”

I’m glad they’re not taking their eyes off him.

 

[bestill]

That's a disturbing thought.

Patrick Frazee spotted in public at waste management facility, police return to his property

Employees at the company in Teller County also tell us they saw Frazee at the facility dropping off trash from a long trailer with two other men. Witnesses say Frazee remained in a white pickup truck as the two other men, who drove in two separate cars, unloaded the trailer.

The trash was later collected by police and it's been reported a few of the items were taken away by police for further investigation.


ohhhh boy.

Well that's not very smart at all. Did he really think he wasn't being watched and those that helped him need a visit too.

 

[Liadan]

Holy heck, your partner goes missing and you visit a waste management facility - alarm bells are deafening!

 

[Cardinal47]

This is a narrative that is based on pure speculation.

It’s fine to be critical of law enforcement if you have something to back it up.

Just because the investigation isn’t going in a direction that you want it to go, doesn’t mean it is headed in the wrong direction.

I guess the back up would be that perhaps LE has no idea what happened to Kelsey.
They had no idea who killed Mollie T until some farmer handed in a video.
They have said they have no idea what happened to the Closs family. They are stymied.
Could it be there is not much to go on so they continue on the baby daddy because he's available???
Chris Watts is burning on everybody's mind right now. I would hate to be the SO of a missing woman.
The following comes to mind; I do not know whether to or go blind. by word genie ... This is a phrase used when someone is confused and cannot decide between two choices.

 

[MyBelle]

Are they looking for something in the septic system?

Now that you mention it, that is where a septic tank could be located. Our's is about 15 feet straight out from our kitchen.

 

[bestill]

Holy heck, your partner goes missing and you visit a waste management facility - alarm bells are deafening!

With a large trailer and you sit in the truck...nothing to see here folks!