CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - *Arrest* #58

[Seattle1]

When all of this first came out, it was either someone who posted here or in the media that Patrick said at one point or someone did, that she had gone to help move her grandmother, or her grandmother was sick, who lived in Idaho.

Very interesting that we learned during the first day, that Kelsey's brother was moving to Idaho, and that is where the phone ping. Very very interesting wherever that information came about grandmother and Idaho came from. Where did that come from, wondering Minds want to know.

^^S/BBM

It's true PF alleged that KB had taken off, leaving baby K behind to go see her elderly grandmother in Moses Lake, WA (presumably driving through ID). That was one of the first things CB verified untrue, and deleted this trip as an option for KB's absence.

MOO

ETA - delete move comment (storage items not individual).

 

[GoJacks]

^^S/BBM

It's true PF alleged that KB had taken off, leaving baby K behind to go see her elderly grandmother in Moses Lake, WA (presumably driving through ID). That was one of the first things CB verified untrue, and deleted this trip as an option for KB's absence.

Also, I'm wondering if there's a mix-up in reporting brother CB's move. I believe I read it was ID to WA, and not the reverse. I also recall something in his social media about his abrupt welcome to life in the big city when his truck was stolen from in front of his WA house.

MOO

Don't believe the brother was moving. CB said they had things in brother's garage in WA they were moving back to ID.

 

[Seattle1]

and also.....is there a chance that SF could lose the franch? How do they make money for that thing?

Not sleuthing family but my vote's that the franch was likely a divorce settlement many years ago.
MOO

 

[Seattle1]

Don't believe the brother was moving. CB said they had things in brother's garage in WA they were moving back to ID.

Thanks for clarifying!

 

[MemPat]

BBM:

Listen, Sister:

You know what they say: "If the purple boa and 6-inch stilettos fit..."

And nothing "beautiful" ever came of a trip to Taco Bell, I can promise you that.

"Can't we all get along?"
Rodney King

 

[zea mays]

Not sleuthing family but my vote's that the franch was likely a divorce settlement many years ago.
MOO

Are we not calling it the ranchette anymore?

 

[Ccging]

Don't believe the brother was moving. CB said they had things in brother's garage in WA they were moving back to ID.

CB & DB were originally from eastern WA and they moved to ID.

I believe CB2 moved from east side of WA to the west side of WA.

 

[Sweetsbeach]

Are we not calling it the ranchette anymore?

What about Franchette? New people are are going to think wth are these people talking about?

 

[Seattle1]

Are we not calling it the ranchette anymore?

What about Franchette? New people are are going to think wth are these people talking about?

I dunno -- I think Frazee Ranch went to the "Franch" many threads ago!

 

[justaparent]

CB & DB were originally from eastern WA and they moved to ID.
I believe CB2 moved from east side of WA to the west side of WA.

the last I heard (news reports, I don’t know them) CB2 lived in Tacoma, WA.

 

[zea mays]

I dunno -- I think Frazee Ranch went to the "Franch" many threads ago!

I'm sure it did - I just enjoyed the emphasis on what a SMALL ranch it was. I loved the suggestion above of franchette!

 

[Ccging]

the last I heard (news reports, I don’t know them) CB2 lived in Tacoma, WA.

Yup, that’s on the west side.

 

[tmar]

Finally caught up and many thanks to all for keeping us updated with links, tweets, and of course @GoJacks for braving the media circus to sit in funky old Teller County Court to eyeball PF.

We had posters check in from at least 8 countries for this trial start, but PF couldn’t make even one phone call to the mother of his child after she’d gone missing. Calls KK 46 times. That quite telling. IMO

So ...PF’s defense is going to give us the “raw and unedited” version of events? After running those events through not one, but two entire teams of defense lawyers (Loew, then Steigerwald). For ten months.

Hogwash.

As you state, steeltowngirl, people in other countries, make the effort, as they worry about KB.
What effort, has PF, and his entire family made to find KB?
Then we have KK, and that group.
KB found herself in a 'snake pit' and now, the entire world, will hear details.
No where to hide NOW.
Justice and Karma happening, as we watch, this trial from everywhere.

 

[susiQ]

I dunno -- I think Frazee Ranch went to the "Franch" many threads ago!

Iirc, we went from ranch to ranchette to franchette to franch. We like to make up our own words here

 

[Seattle1]

CB & DB were originally from eastern WA and they moved to ID.

I believe CB2 moved from east side of WA to the west side of WA.

I agree -- pretty sure this was confirmed in MSM.

Washingtonians reference the state as "Eastern WA" and "Western WA" with the Cascade Mountains as the divider.

Significant difference between Eastern and Western, WA is the climate: Seattle -Tacoma (west half of the state) is located in rainy oceanic climate whereas the eastern half is dry and can be very hot during summer.

 

[susiQ]

As you state, steeltowngirl, people in other countries, make the effort, as they worry about KB.
What effort, has PF, and his entire family made to find KB?
Then we have KK, and that group.
KB found herself in a 'snake pit' and now, the entire world, will hear details.
No where to hide NOW.
Justice and Karma happening, as we watch, this trial from everywhere.

BBM
AND, that's the surprising thing to me! They AIN"T hiding!! I can't imagine being PF's sister sitting in that courtroom. How embarrassing is THAT??

Back many months a WS member's (can't remember who, sorry) signature was, "Welcome to Karma Cafe, where everyone is served what they deserve." Loved that one!

 

[?mysterian?]

Ummm, ummmm, sitting on hands as we cannot talk about such. Involves minors.

My hands are turning white from sitting on them.

Does this mean you're pleading the Fifth? When you regain the ability to type?

 

[Ccging]

I agree -- pretty sure this was confirmed in MSM.

Washingtonians reference the state as "Eastern WA" and "Western WA" with the Cascade Mountains as the divider.

Significant difference between Eastern and Western, WA is the climate: Seattle -Tacoma (west half of the state) is located in rainy oceanic climate whereas the eastern half is dry and can be very hot during summer.

Yup (I’m from the east side, so all VERY familiar).

 

[MemPat]

I think @MassGuy should fly to CO and cover the trial since @GoJacks can’t be there everyday. I’m sure we could pool our airline points and gift cards to help fund the trip. The airlines do take Taco Bell cards, right?

I slapped myself for thinking how Taco Bell cards alone might propel one from Mass to CO!

 

[PommyMommy]

This article has been updated today but I'm not sure if there is anything new. Posting just in case.

Kelsey Berreth murder case: Cheryl Berreth, victim’s mother, takes the stand, defense says case has “serious foundational issues” – Canon City Daily Record
PUBLISHED: November 1, 2019 at 7:09 pm | UPDATED: November 2, 2019 at 3:40 pm

[...]

Kelsey Berreth struggled to find a solid job as a pilot in Colorado and at one point moved to Grand Junction for work. The distance put a strain on the couple’s relationship, but Kelsey wanted to make it work, despite a complicated relationship with Frazee’s family, Cheryl Berreth said.

But unbeknownst to Kelsey Berreth, Frazee for months in 2018 worked to spread lies that Kelsey abused their 1-year-old daughter and was a horrible mother, Viehman said. And multiple times in the fall of 2018, Frazee asked Kenney to kill his fiancée, Viehman said.

Kenney loved and feared Frazee, the prosecutor said. She sought his approval while also fearing that he would hurt her or her family if she didn’t follow his orders.

[...]