CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - *Arrest* #59

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It’s going to be a long wait till lunch for updates . I’m wondering how cross examination is going to go I can’t see them going after cb hard or that would turn the jury right against him. .i can’t understand the defenses theory that Kelsey was killed elsewhere with the evidence that was found they really didn’t think it threw just moo moo
I don't know about that. They're getting paid to defend PF. While I don't see a knock out drag em out fight, I don't think they're going to be "easy" on Cheryl at all. We want them to, it's the classy thing to do, but some defense attorneys are ruthless. I want to be wrong, and I hope so.
 
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Snipped for focus- is that allegedly what he said to KK? If so, I call BS! Why wouldn't a father care about their own child over a side kick? Give me a break, PF and KK!
He wanted KK to feel responsible...it's like an extreme projection to manipulate her into doing his bidding.
 
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Bringing over @steeltowngirl 's very helpful list of case players and places from the last thread (I asked MODS if it could be added to the start of this thread):

Preparing for next week’s witnesses, I made a list of places and names to help remind myself. All are from warrants and / or MSM. Not perfect by far, but sharing with you all, feel free to scroll and roll if it’s not useful.

STATE V. FRAZEE: VICTIM, DEFENDANT
Kelsey Berreth - missing, presumed deceased, victim
Patrick Frazee - former boyfriend of Kelsey, defendant in murder trial

KEY WITNESS
Krystal Jean Kenney Lee - former girlfriend of Frazee, guilty plea deal to felony tampering

COURT
Scott Sells - Judge
Dan May - District Attorney
Jennifer Viehman - prosecutor
Jeremy Loew - PF original defense attorney
Adam Steigerwald - PF current defense attorney
Ashley Porter - PF defense team

BERRETH FAMILY
Cheryl Berreth - mother of KB
Darrell Berreth - father of KB
Clint Berreth - brother of PF
Kaylee Berreth - minor child of KB and PF
Ed Stanfill - KB uncle
Jodee Garretson - KB cousin

KB ACQUAINTANCES
Merle Merriak - KB supervisor at Doss Aviation
Ashley Cogburn - KB Best friend
Amanda Smith - friend of KB
Nicole Haywood - friend of KB
Eric Lowe - KB former bf and Southwest pilot
Alvaro Sauza - pastor at Sandpoint Seventh Day Adventist Church

FRAZEE FAMILY
Sheila Frazee - PF mother
Sean Frazee - PF brother, police officer
Erin Frazee - PF sister

PF ACQUAINTANCES
Vanessa Curie - PF former gf
Clinton Cline - friend of PF
Robert Slagle - best friend and “father figure” to PF
Elaine Slagle- wife of Robert

KRYSTAL KENNEY FAMILY & ACQUAINTANCES
Chad Lee - ex husband of KK
Kristi - KK aunt, with KK for Starbucks and Vegas trips
Susie Runser - Wendell Idaho - 10 min from Malad Gorge
Meghan Garrison - friend of KK, switched cars for KK trip
Michelle Stein - friend of KK, former paralegal of Rockstahls
Laura Stutzman - friend of KK from rodeo circuit
Mark Pearson - received KB gun from KK

INVESTIGATORS
Agent Kevin Torres - interviewed PF at Five Guys restaurant
Chief Miles DeYoung - Woodland Park Police Chief
Corporal Currin - Woodland Park PD
Officer B Huber - Woodland Park PD
Agent Gregg Slater - CBI
Agent Kevin Torres - CBI
Tanya Atkinson - Crime scene investigator
Jerry Meams - arson investigator at Frazee ranch for burn area
Kevin Holland - FBI Cellular Analysis Survey Team
Corporal Koski - interviewed neighbor
Detective McDaniel - interviewed ENT bank manager
Commander Chris Adams - WPPD, reviewed Walmart video
Dispatcher Nina Allmond - reviewed Williams video
Mary Longmire - DHS Custody, interviewed PF in jail

MISC PLACES / PERSONS OF INTEREST
KB townhome in Woodland Park
Frazee ranch in Florissant
Leslie Jackson - KB Neighbor with surveillance camera
Safeway in Woodland Park - last place KB seen, video evidence
Starbucks at Walmart - KK gets coffee late September 2018 to give to KB
Williams Log Furniture - surveillance camera
Walmart - PF visited 11/22 afternoon
Patricia Key - Woodland Park ENT Bank Manager
Conoco - gas station in Florissant with video of PF and KK filling jug
Sonic - Woodland Park fast food restaurant, video of KK at drive thru
Nash Ranch - allegation that PF stored KB body on hay
UPS driver that dropped of KB2 ornament gift after missing
Utility worker dropped off notice at KB home after missing
Sheila McCorkle Frazee - FB post during TV Wizard of Oz ‘witch is dead’
Michelle Bartlome - spokesperson at St Luke’s Health System in Idaho (KK nursing employer)
Nedley Clinic CA -KB admitted for depression /nutrition in August 2018
Joe Rockstahl - attorney and M Stein former employer, were told of plot
Patty Rockstahl - Wife of Joe, M Stein former employer

Still Missing - CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - *Arrest* #58
 
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These are 2 separate events entirely.

Supposedly, and by supposedly, I mean I don't believe this for one red hot skinny minute, PF "begged" KK not to get married the night before her wedding.

The second bit about KK finding out PF had a child came well after Baby K was born.

These 2 things aren't connected, they were just strung together in the same sentence.

JMO.

Thank you for the clarification!

Edited to add: I am here! Will be popping in and out today.
 
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I don't know about that. They're getting paid to defend PF. While I don't see a knock out drag em out fight, I don't think they're going to be "easy" on Cheryl at all. We want them to, it's the classy thing to do, but some defense attorneys are ruthless. I want to be wrong, and I hope so.
I would hope they would have total respect for her in how they pose their questions. It will do them NO good, to take on an innocent in all this. I also have a feeling that if they do get a bit rough or condescending, we're going to find out just HOW strong CB is!
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He wanted KK to feel responsible...it's like an extreme projection to manipulate her into doing his bidding.
Oh yes! And, narcs are absolutely "diabolical" at their use of that tactic. I've seen it done too many times.
 
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Stephanie (Butzer) Rose on Twitter
#KelseyBerreth's mother is expected to continue her testimony this morning as the murder trial for #PatrickFrazee continues. The entire case is expected to wrap up before Thanksgiving week. Again, live coverage is not allowed.
http://bit.ly/2WQIUYF
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7:59 AM - 4 Nov 2019

Denver7 News on Twitter
Kelsey Berreth's mother is expected to continue her testimony this morning as the murder trial for Patrick Frazee continues. The entire case is expected to wrap up before Thanksgiving week.
http://bit.ly/2WQIUYF
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8:00 AM - 4 Nov 2019

[URL="https://twitter.com/csgazette/status/1191385363886903296"]The Gazette on Twitter[/URL]
#KelseyBerreth's mother to resume testimony in #PatrickFrazee murder trial
8:03 AM - 4 Nov 2019
 
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Sam Kraemer TV
FRAZEE TRIAL DAY 2: Good morning all. Today, Cheryl Berreth will retake the stand in the murder trial of Patrick Frazee. Prosecutors have used her testimony to suggest Kelsey Berreth was never accepted by the Frazee family, with Frazee’s mother Sheila reportedly calling her a “hooker” after she spent a night at the ranch.

It’s unclear who will testify after that. We’ve heard possibly Clint Berreth, Kelsey’s brother, could be next.

I’ll share updates around lunch & at the end of the day. Also, check back here for a Facebook live around 7:00 p.m. (MT) or so. I’ll run through my notes more extensively then.

#KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney KOAA 5
If Clint is the next witness, I wish him all the best. I truly believe that it was that close sibling bond that got all of this going in the first place. Clint was smart and knew his sister better than anyone. I think Kelsey shared a lot more with Clint than even possibly to Cheryl- often times, siblings do- they don't want to worry their parents or get lectured- be honest, not all of us told our parents everything, especially the things we'd later on realize they were right about to be concerned!

I admire Clint- he was so persistent and didn't buy that Kelsey just up and took off and he certainly knew his sister wasn't an alcoholic and a child abuse! He didn't trust PF and the BS that he concocted, came to her condo to have a look around for himself with their Mom Cheryl. Both Clint and Cheryl couldn't sleep, and they started seeing things out of place and abnormal and wrote them down, calling LE. He seemed to have a good eye for details, and noticed what should have been missing if Kelsey took off, was still at the condo.

Go Clint! Prayers to you, whether you testify today or another day. I know you're going to be one of two star witnesses in Kelsey's case. I also don't think he'll put up with any bunk from the defense!
 
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NOV 4, 2019
Kelsey Berreth's mother to resume testimony in Patrick Frazee murder trial
Testimony is scheduled to resume Monday morning in the first-degree murder trial of Patrick Frazee, a Florissant man accused of bludgeoning his fiancée, Kelsey Berreth, to death last Thanksgiving.

Berreth’s mother, Cheryl Berreth, who took the stand Friday as the prosecution’s first witness, is expected to resume her testimony Monday.

On Friday, Cheryl Berreth took aim at Frazee’s claims that his relationship with Kelsey had deteriorated in the days before her Thanksgiving Day disappearance, and rejected the idea that Kelsey would give up custody of their daughter, Kaylee, as Frazee had told police.

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Here! And dreaming of turning on my Bluetooth speaker and blasting this trial live.
 
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Oh yes! And, narcs are absolutely "diabolical" at their use of that tactic. I've seen it done too many times.
Right? He's a textbook case.
 
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He wanted KK to feel responsible...it's like an extreme projection to manipulate her into doing his bidding.
I question her story. Plus, she's a nurse, a grown woman, with children. She can think for herself and make responsible decisions. Suggesting she fell for PF guilting her makes her seem lame. jmo
 
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If Clint is the next witness, I wish him all the best. I truly believe that it was that close sibling bond that got all of this going in the first place. Clint was smart and knew his sister better than anyone. I think Kelsey shared a lot more with Clint than even possibly to Cheryl- often times, siblings do- they don't want to worry their parents or get lectured- be honest, not all of us told our parents everything, especially the things we'd later on realize they were right about to be concerned!

I admire Clint- he was so persistent and didn't buy that Kelsey just up and took off and he certainly knew his sister wasn't an alcoholic and a child abuse! He didn't trust PF and the BS that he concocted, came to her condo to have a look around for himself with their Mom Cheryl. Both Clint and Cheryl couldn't sleep, and they started seeing things out of place and abnormal and wrote them down, calling LE. He seemed to have a good eye for details, and noticed what should have been missing if Kelsey took off, was still at the condo.

Go Clint! Prayers to you, whether you testify today or another day. I know you're going to be one of two star witnesses in Kelsey's case. I also don't think he'll put up with any bunk from the defense!
All of this, so true! Go Clint!!
 
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Please continue discussion here.

As this is a trial thread, please try to keep your posts relevant to the actual ongoing trial instead of general discussion.

Thanks.
I'm here but have a question - this is the first real "trial thread" I've followed from the start. Are we only to discuss the tweets during the trial? Is there a "general discussion" thread we should post on if we want to discuss something not related to the trial? Thanks

I know KB's family will do a remarkable job on the stand. I do not think the defense can really tear down her testimony IMO.
 
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Hey, y'all, I'm present (but tardy). Another day closer to justice for KB!
 
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Prosecutors call Berreth's mother as opening witness in murder trial

SABBM:
As we learned earlier this year, he's accused of soliciting his girlfriend, Krystal Kenney,on at least three occasions to kill Berreth. “All you gotta do is hit her in the head and put her in the trash can,” Viehman says, attributing to Frazee. When Kenney refused, Frazee is accused of telling her, “I guess I just care more about Kaylee than you do, and if something happens to Kaylee, it’s on you Krystal,” per Viehman.
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Focusing on this statement, because it's terribly (in every sense of the word) revealing.

PF is KB's FATHER.

One would hope that as Baby K's parent, PF might, just might, care just a tad more about his DAUGHTER than his side piece, who never even met her, cares about her.

But, No.
PF actually "accuses" KK of caring less about Baby K than he does!
"I guess I just care more about Kaylee than you do...."

Newsflash, PF: You're kinda' sorta' EXPECTED to care more about your DAUGHTER than your side piece does.

For anyone who ever thought this is about PF wanting custody of Baby K because he "loves" her, this quote from PF is your wake-up call.

PF doesn't love Baby K at all.
She's just a tool he used to try to manipulate all the women in his life.
He used Baby K the way he uses all females.

He's a misogynist.
He's also a brute.

The fact that he could and would cold-bloodedly and brutally beat the mother of his child to death with a baseball bat should come as a surprise to no one.

JMO.

I agree with everything you wrote. My own reply was shorter because that comment just made me shake my head in disgust.

I've said it before and I'll say it again- he pitted the women in his life against one another. Had Kelsey lived, he would have tried to come between mother and daughter in this same fashion. Thank God Baby K is no where near PF and his family. Just from reading so far what we have learned, it appears that mother, son, and sister all view women this way outside of their family, as well as inside their family. They learned that behavior from somewhere, and I think we can all guess who.
 
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I'm here but have a question - this is the first real "trial thread" I've followed from the start. Are we only to discuss the tweets during the trial? Is there a "general discussion" thread we should post on if we want to discuss something not related to the trial? Thanks

I know KB's family will do a remarkable job on the stand. I do not think the defense can really tear down her testimony IMO.

I think this is the only thread for KB, except the Media only thread. Other cases have/had multiple threads and "sections" on the website, and their discussion is focused more on thread topics. So I think this thread is gonna contain everything.
 
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