I'll be in as work allows. Justice for Kelsey. Stay strong, Cheryl!Trial Day 2: Roll Call.
Who's Here for Kelsey?
I'll be in as work allows. Justice for Kelsey. Stay strong, Cheryl!Trial Day 2: Roll Call.
Who's Here for Kelsey?
I don't know about that. They're getting paid to defend PF. While I don't see a knock out drag em out fight, I don't think they're going to be "easy" on Cheryl at all. We want them to, it's the classy thing to do, but some defense attorneys are ruthless. I want to be wrong, and I hope so.It’s going to be a long wait till lunch for updates . I’m wondering how cross examination is going to go I can’t see them going after cb hard or that would turn the jury right against him. .i can’t understand the defenses theory that Kelsey was killed elsewhere with the evidence that was found they really didn’t think it threw just moo moo
He wanted KK to feel responsible...it's like an extreme projection to manipulate her into doing his bidding.Snipped for focus- is that allegedly what he said to KK? If so, I call BS! Why wouldn't a father care about their own child over a side kick? Give me a break, PF and KK!
These are 2 separate events entirely.
Supposedly, and by supposedly, I mean I don't believe this for one red hot skinny minute, PF "begged" KK not to get married the night before her wedding.
The second bit about KK finding out PF had a child came well after Baby K was born.
These 2 things aren't connected, they were just strung together in the same sentence.
JMO.
I would hope they would have total respect for her in how they pose their questions. It will do them NO good, to take on an innocent in all this. I also have a feeling that if they do get a bit rough or condescending, we're going to find out just HOW strong CB is!I don't know about that. They're getting paid to defend PF. While I don't see a knock out drag em out fight, I don't think they're going to be "easy" on Cheryl at all. We want them to, it's the classy thing to do, but some defense attorneys are ruthless. I want to be wrong, and I hope so.
Oh yes! And, narcs are absolutely "diabolical" at their use of that tactic. I've seen it done too many times.He wanted KK to feel responsible...it's like an extreme projection to manipulate her into doing his bidding.
If Clint is the next witness, I wish him all the best. I truly believe that it was that close sibling bond that got all of this going in the first place. Clint was smart and knew his sister better than anyone. I think Kelsey shared a lot more with Clint than even possibly to Cheryl- often times, siblings do- they don't want to worry their parents or get lectured- be honest, not all of us told our parents everything, especially the things we'd later on realize they were right about to be concerned!Sam Kraemer TV
FRAZEE TRIAL DAY 2: Good morning all. Today, Cheryl Berreth will retake the stand in the murder trial of Patrick Frazee. Prosecutors have used her testimony to suggest Kelsey Berreth was never accepted by the Frazee family, with Frazee’s mother Sheila reportedly calling her a “hooker” after she spent a night at the ranch.
It’s unclear who will testify after that. We’ve heard possibly Clint Berreth, Kelsey’s brother, could be next.
I’ll share updates around lunch & at the end of the day. Also, check back here for a Facebook live around 7:00 p.m. (MT) or so. I’ll run through my notes more extensively then.
#KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney KOAA 5
Guten Morgen!! Wie geht es dir heute?
Right? He's a textbook case.Oh yes! And, narcs are absolutely "diabolical" at their use of that tactic. I've seen it done too many times.
I question her story. Plus, she's a nurse, a grown woman, with children. She can think for herself and make responsible decisions. Suggesting she fell for PF guilting her makes her seem lame. jmoHe wanted KK to feel responsible...it's like an extreme projection to manipulate her into doing his bidding.
All of this, so true! Go Clint!!If Clint is the next witness, I wish him all the best. I truly believe that it was that close sibling bond that got all of this going in the first place. Clint was smart and knew his sister better than anyone. I think Kelsey shared a lot more with Clint than even possibly to Cheryl- often times, siblings do- they don't want to worry their parents or get lectured- be honest, not all of us told our parents everything, especially the things we'd later on realize they were right about to be concerned!
I admire Clint- he was so persistent and didn't buy that Kelsey just up and took off and he certainly knew his sister wasn't an alcoholic and a child abuse! He didn't trust PF and the BS that he concocted, came to her condo to have a look around for himself with their Mom Cheryl. Both Clint and Cheryl couldn't sleep, and they started seeing things out of place and abnormal and wrote them down, calling LE. He seemed to have a good eye for details, and noticed what should have been missing if Kelsey took off, was still at the condo.
Go Clint! Prayers to you, whether you testify today or another day. I know you're going to be one of two star witnesses in Kelsey's case. I also don't think he'll put up with any bunk from the defense!
I'm here but have a question - this is the first real "trial thread" I've followed from the start. Are we only to discuss the tweets during the trial? Is there a "general discussion" thread we should post on if we want to discuss something not related to the trial? ThanksPlease continue discussion here.
As this is a trial thread, please try to keep your posts relevant to the actual ongoing trial instead of general discussion.
Thanks.
Prosecutors call Berreth's mother as opening witness in murder trial
SABBM:
As we learned earlier this year, he's accused of soliciting his girlfriend, Krystal Kenney,on at least three occasions to kill Berreth. “All you gotta do is hit her in the head and put her in the trash can,” Viehman says, attributing to Frazee. When Kenney refused, Frazee is accused of telling her, “I guess I just care more about Kaylee than you do, and if something happens to Kaylee, it’s on you Krystal,” per Viehman.
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Focusing on this statement, because it's terribly (in every sense of the word) revealing.
PF is KB's FATHER.
One would hope that as Baby K's parent, PF might, just might, care just a tad more about his DAUGHTER than his side piece, who never even met her, cares about her.
But, No.
PF actually "accuses" KK of caring less about Baby K than he does!
"I guess I just care more about Kaylee than you do...."
Newsflash, PF: You're kinda' sorta' EXPECTED to care more about your DAUGHTER than your side piece does.
For anyone who ever thought this is about PF wanting custody of Baby K because he "loves" her, this quote from PF is your wake-up call.
PF doesn't love Baby K at all.
She's just a tool he used to try to manipulate all the women in his life.
He used Baby K the way he uses all females.
He's a misogynist.
He's also a brute.
The fact that he could and would cold-bloodedly and brutally beat the mother of his child to death with a baseball bat should come as a surprise to no one.
JMO.
I'm here but have a question - this is the first real "trial thread" I've followed from the start. Are we only to discuss the tweets during the trial? Is there a "general discussion" thread we should post on if we want to discuss something not related to the trial? Thanks
I know KB's family will do a remarkable job on the stand. I do not think the defense can really tear down her testimony IMO.
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