CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - *Arrest* #59

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  • #121
It’s looking like pf attorneys aren’t cross examing cb and family good least cb was spared that but I wonder why no cross examination of Clint about the text that PF sister sent to Kelsey
 
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Welp, those who theorized there was a fight over Pa Frazee's assets were correct.
 
  • #124
So, it appears the vipers were at each others throats too. Not surprising, is it?? Maybe Mr. Don't-look-at-me had a few more on his "hit" list (pun intended). Perhaps some arsenic in the morning coffee at the Franch??
 
  • #125
Order of testimony so far:
  1. CB
  2. CB2
  3. Doss Aviation employee - KB's supervisor
Broom on the bed? :confused:

12 hours at the WPPD, bless their hearts. :(

MOO
 
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Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV
Clint says he understood there was a fight for Patrick’s late father’s assets. Ok have to head back in now @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney

9:40 AM - 4 Nov 2019

ETA: It's believed PF dad passed around Sept 2018 but death was not confirmed in msm until Colorado Springs Gazette reported dad was deceased (in article published earlier this spring).
 
  • #127
I believe the neighbor that gave KB a babygate may be neighbor with surveillance camera but don't know for certain. She may have also reported seeing PF's red truck on Thanksgiving at KB's condo. MOO

IIRC, it definitely was NOT the next door neighbor. It was another neighbor.
 
  • #128
Welp, those who theorized there was a fight over Pa Frazee's assets were correct.
Yeah, all this year, we were trying to figure out if the dad was dead or not.
Someone, yesterday, posted correctly that the dad was deceased. But the fight over assets...?
Hmmm, I thought sf would have all the assets at this time. Maybe they were divorced.
Anyways...
I suppose they're having a late lunch. Staying tuned as always.
 
  • #129
It’s looking like pf attorneys aren’t cross examing cb and family good least cb was spared that but I wonder why no cross examination of Clint about the text that PF sister sent to Kelsey

Perhaps the difference between hiring a high profile criminal atty from the big city, vs. a public defender from a smaller county in CO? Usually, the high profile attys go after everyone, but this smaller county defender is just focused on KKL is a liar etc. We'll see.
 
  • #130
This is insane!
Welp, those who theorized there was a fight over Pa Frazee's assets were correct.

Why in the world would the lawyer think KB would help her at all? If KB was sent to the porch when the sister visited it makes zero sense that even if she hated PF at that time that she’d give anything to his sister.

This just shows another level of stupidly evil. I can’t even think of another term to use. Stupidly evil.
 

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  • #131
Yeah, all this year, we were trying to figure out if the dad was dead or not.
Someone, yesterday, posted correctly that the dad was deceased. But the fight over assets...?
Hmmm, I thought sf would have all the assets at this time. Maybe they were divorced.
Anyways...
I suppose they're having a late lunch. Staying tuned as always.

Yes, they were divorced. ETA, and I thought we found out he was deceased right at the beginning.
 
  • #132
This is insane!


Why in the world would the lawyer think KB would help her at all? If KB was sent to the porch when the sister visited it makes zero sense that even if she hated PF at that time that she’d give anything to his sister.

This just shows another level of stupidly evil. I can’t even think of another term to use. Stupidly evil.

Perhaps this was the reason that PF’s sister (EF) made Kelsey wait outside on the porch.

Kelsey wouldn’t play ball with EF’s lawyer.
 
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Yes, they were divorced. ETA, and I thought we found out he was deceased right at the beginning.
We did but death was from a source not approved by WS. MSM confirmed earlier this spring but no obituary to date. MOO
 
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Nothing like an inheritance to turn the vipers against each other.
Some of us here have ALWAYS thought PF's primary motive for the murder was a financial one.

He resented having to pay KB child support, and for her insurance, and for anything whatsover.

He decided he wasn't going to "give" KB another red, hot penny.

HIS money.
HIS kid.
In PF's "mind," KB wasn't entitled to either of them, because "What's HIS is HIS, and HIS ALONE."

Sure sounds from Clint's testimony as if PF also regarded it as HIS inheritance.

HIS Money + HIS child = HIS Motive

HIS Motive.

JMO.
 
  • #136
Perhaps the difference between hiring a high profile criminal atty from the big city, vs. a public defender from a smaller county in CO? Usually, the high profile attys go after everyone, but this smaller county defender is just focused on KKL is a liar etc. We'll see.
I’m thinking pf attorney knew if they did they would have lost the jury completely . If pf thinks he has a chance to win because of Hatred of KKL he forgot about all the circumstantial evidence
 
  • #137
I hope LE has looked into PF's father's death. Perhaps, at the end of this, they'll all be in prison.

Sounds like Patrick had a few things to gain through the murder. Ensuring Kelsey didn't hurt the inheritance case (not that I think she would have involved herself, IMO) AND having custody of his daughter.
 
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Many here agree with you, myself included, but a deal is a deal, as they say. She'll never get what she truly deserves from the judicial system. But, she's dining at the Karma Kafe for the rest of her days, "where everyone is served, what they deserve." JMHO

Karma don't make deals...so I'm told.
 
  • #140
I wonder who the defence has as witnesses.
 
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