CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - *Arrest* #59

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Thanks for sharing that, PM. I like Sam and it was good to get more details.

Hearing that the box of garbage bags at the condo belonged to KK made me happy.
I'm guessing they've tracked those back to where and when she bought them...more evidence to corroborate her story.

I didn't like Sam saying Patrick hadn't changed clothes since he still had on a white t-shirt as he left the condo. Of course, he could have changed!

I also found myself glad our mouths move in concert with the words we speak. The first half with the out of sync sound drove me crazy!
 
  • #582
Thank you Sam Kraemer et al for the reporting. Very much appreciated!

He did awesome! Hope he's getting OT or better yet he deserves a hefty raise and a nice tropical vaca when this is over.
 
  • #583
Yes, "Moronicity" is another
We can call it, "Frazish."

It will consist primarily of grunts, clacks and whistles.

On account of I'm pretty sure that's how PF communicates.

JMO.
well yes, since he doesn't talk.
 
  • #584
Not that this will make any difference to the trial's outcome, but Sam mentioned PF was seen carrying the baby in some of the camera photos.

I wonder if she was crying or upset. I keep hoping against hope that she didn't hear all of this going down.
 
  • #585
Since PF is sitting so calmly and showing no reactions to testimony, could he be drugged?

The last thing the defense wants is for the jurors to see him get upset or even perturbed.
Jmo. No. No drugs. He's a psychopath.
What you see, that nothing, no reaction? That's him. That is Patrick Frazee.
There is no there <points to head and heart> there.
That's the depth of his emotion.
He doesn't give a flying flip, about anyone or anything but himself and he's probably raging internally how this trial is an affront to him.
 
  • #586
Same thing here in NH- during the fall, 48 degrees is freezing, but in the spring, it feels like a heat wave and out come the shorts and tank tops. Blood thinner in the fall from the summer months, thicker in the spring from the winter months.

It’s in the low 20’s to mid teens right now in MN.
48 degrees would feel pretty nice right now....LOL!
 
  • #587
Thanks for sharing that, PM. I like Sam and it was good to get more details.

Hearing that the box of garbage bags at the condo belonged to KK made me happy.
I'm guessing they've tracked those back to where and when she bought them...more evidence to corroborate her story.

I didn't like Sam saying Patrick hadn't changed clothes since he still had on a white t-shirt as he left the condo. Of course, he could have changed!

I also found myself glad our mouths move in concert with the words we speak. The first half with the out of sync sound drove me crazy!
I caught the tail end of it, when he was discussing the surveillance system and what it captured.

I cannot wait to hear the defense explain why PF was still at Kelsey’s house at 430. There’s no way they can say it isn’t him, so they’re going to have to put quite the spin on his lie.
 
  • #588
So if SF hasn't been in the court room, is she a witness?

Yes, KK said that SF came out onto the porch while they were burning the body.
They may also want to question her on the events on Thanksgiving day, such as when PF arrived, what time he left, when they spoke on the phone, etc.

Imo

The State has wanted to question SF since last Feb 2019 at the Preliminary Hearing. She's definitely a witness and has been sequestered from the courtroom. Reports are that she's been at the courthouse but not inside the courtroom. She was said only to inside courtroom during jury selection. MOO

ETA: DA May previously wanted to question SF about a pipe allegedly left outside SF's gate for KK to use to beat KB; Thanksgiving guests at her home; phone call from PF on Thanksgiving; and bonfire at her home on Saturday night.
 
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I caught the tail end of it, when he was discussing the surveillance system and what it captured.

I cannot wait to hear the defense explain why PF was still at Kelsey’s house at 430. There’s no way they can say it isn’t him, so they’re going to have to put quite the spin on his lie.
Yup -- and isn't that about the time PF phoned Mommy -- (save me the drumstick or else).. MOO
 
  • #591
11 freakin times? ...what was he doing so many times at the front door?

Was he seen carrying a tote in or out any of those times?

Probably, going back and forth nervously, in a panic , as forgot certain things: what did he leave behind? etc.
Then phoning his mate, for further clean up, as precious couldn't cope.
MOO.
 
  • #592
Since PF is sitting so calmly and showing no reactions to testimony, could he be drugged?

The last thing the defense wants is for the jurors to see him get upset or even perturbed.

Anything is possible. Maybe someone recommended Valium or something.
 
  • #593
NOV 4, 2019
Investigator: Camera spotted Frazee at Berreth's place 11 times on day of alleged killing
A neighbor’s surveillance camera “captured” Patrick Frazee at his fiancee’s front door 11 times on the day she was allegedly beaten to death in her living room, an investigator testified on Monday.

[...]

The images were recorded between roughly 12:30 and 4:30 p.m. on the day Berreth, 29, went missing – lining up with claims by Frazee’s mistress, Krystal Lee Kenney, that Frazee killed Berreth before showing up for Thanksgiving dinner at his mother’s house that afternoon.

At roughly 1:30 p.m., the man investigators say is Frazee, 33, entered the home with Berreth, who was carrying poinsettias, and their infant daughter, Kaylee.

[...]

And when the man leaves later that afternoon, he is seen carrying the baby, Mininger said. The person on camera is wearing a light-colored T-shirt and ballcap.

Mininger was the last of 13 witnesses to testify on Monday, and he hasn’t been cross-examined, so the defense hasn’t had a chance to poke holes in his analysis. That’s likely to happen when he resumes the stand on Tuesday morning.

[...]

The footage was captured by a home surveillance system installed by a neighbor, Mininger told the jury. To preserve memory, the system deletes the videos it records after seven days. But in this case, Mininger said he managed to obtain still images from the neighbor's cell phone – left behind in the phone’s “cached” memory by automatic notifications she received through an application.

[...]

Frazee asked her to show him surveillance images from the credit union’s ATM on Thanksgiving Day, asking if a child seat could be seen in his truck. He also wanted her to verify a purchase he made at a Walmart on the holiday.

In explaining his request, Frazee told her he had split from his fiancee, that she had gone missing on the holiday, and that he needed to assemble a timeline in case custody became an issue.

But a moment later, Frazee told Key that Berreth had talked to her mother on the Sunday after Thanksgiving.

“I stopped the conversation, because I said if she talked to her mother on Sunday then she wasn’t missing on Thanksgiving,” Key said.

[...]

On Dec. 11, Frazee stopped into a Verizon store with a variety of questions about a second phone on his Verizon account.

“He specifically asked me if the other phone on his account was destroyed, if there would be a way to get information from it,” said David Felis.

During their encounter, Frazee seemed “paranoid” and “sketchy” and at one point asked him to step outside to discuss the issue further. Felis declined. He ended up relaying an account of Frazee’s visit to investigators.

[...]

The jury also heard from Berreth’s supervisor at Doss Aviation, who called her an accomplished flight instructor beloved by her students – right up to the time when she abruptly said in a text that she was leaving Colorado. Prosecutors say the text was from Frazee or Kenney, and they sought to highlight differences in grammar and tone to prove it.

[...]

One investigator, Woodland Park police Sgt. Andrew Leibbrand, said the air was thick with a “pleasant” odor from a scented candle on a warmer.

[...]

Mininger is expected to resume his testimony about the neighbor's surveillance pictures at 8:30 a.m. Tuesday.
 
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If anyone didnt believe how bad he was before now, we sure know from this below where he didnt even know that cell phone providers can supply LE the call records and tower dumps of all kinds of information.

"Felis said Frazee seemed “particularly concerned” about the security of his cellphone account, and asked if it was possible to gather information from a phone that was destroyed"

Bank manager: Patrick Frazee asked for surveillance video of himself from day Kelsey Berreth was last seen

Mmhm...mmhm...mmhm...
It appears that PF is also not familiar with”The Google”.
 
  • #595
Yup, we saw pictures of the candles. There was one on a hot plate for sure and I think one on the stove. That's what it looked like to me anyway.
Well I wanna see that. So I can go buy one just like it to light for KB when he burns in h*ll!
 
  • #596
The State has wanted to question SF since last Feb 2019 at the Preliminary Hearing. She's definitely a witness and has been sequestered from the courtroom. Reports are that she's been at the courthouse but not inside the courtroom. She was said only to inside courtroom during jury selection. MOO

ETA: DA May previously wanted to question SF about a pipe allegedly left outside SF's gate for KK to use to beat KB; Thanksgiving guests at her home; and bonfire at her home on Saturday night.

So if she pleads the 5th again, then what? Pros can offer immunity?
 
  • #597
Not that this will make any difference to the trial's outcome, but Sam mentioned PF was seen carrying the baby in some of the camera photos.

I wonder if she was crying or upset. I keep hoping against hope that she didn't hear all of this going down.

There is no way she did not hear it, unless maybe if Kelsey was unconscious from the first blow.
 
  • #598
I feel like I'm watching some outrageous off the wall cowboy comedy. This is unreal.

Have you seen today's Google Doodle on their home page. In honor of this trial, it is a cowboy with a lasso GIF....
 
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Yup -- and isn't that about the time PF phoned Mommy -- (save me the drumstick or else).. MOO

Sure is. And wouldn’t you know, but his phone pinged off the tower nearest Kelsey’s house.

Just some photographic evidence corroborating the cell phone evidence. No big deal.

“Mama, I’m calling dibs on a drumstick.”

“Krystal, you have a mess to clean up.”

https://www.courts.state.co.us/userfiles/file/Court_Probation/04th_Judicial_District/Teller/caseofinterest/2018CR330/002/18-118 Search Warrant.pdf
 

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