CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - *Arrest* #60

[steeltowngirl]

Apologies trying to keep up. Questions:

1) Did KL get pregnant twice by PF?
2). Did she have abortions both times?

TIA

No, there was a confusing tweet about that, and it was cleared up.
One pregnancy of KKL, terminated.

KB however had 2 pregnancies, from what I gather.
One ended in miscarriage.
Then came little KB2.

 

[Seattle1]

Frazee trial: Kenney testifies, details their relationship

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I missed yesterday's (25 pages) but after reading it this morning, all the blanks were filled in for me.

Check out the today's recap at link above if you want to be current on testimony and facts.

MOO

 

[kkdj]

How could PF have been happy re: Kelsey’s baby when he reacted so badly to KK’s baby of his? Man what a mess on so many levels.

When did Kelsey become pregnant with their child?

 

[NuttMegg]

Are you thinking of when PF told KK that he cared more than she did about baby KB2? If KK wouldn't cooperate and kill KB?
-or-
Little girls go missing from the playground (or something to that effect). Though I think if he said that it meant KK's kids. Or so she thought.

That's all I can think of...guess we will hear more after KK's done and court ends for day. Staying tuned!

BBM that sounded like a clear threat to me. Why would someone speak like that if he hadn't imagined actually doing it.

 

[MsBetsy]

All I can think of is that she was desperate to be loved or desired. So desperate she seriously considered killing. So how does a beauty queen get that desperate? You'd think she'd have so much better choices in ID. Pretty. much. any. other. guy!
And psycho? How did her neediness cause her to so DESPERATELY want her rival murdered. What is it? Some kind of 'if you really love me you'll kill her' thing. Oh boy, the psychologists are going to have a field day.

Men like PF can spot a vulnerable women a mile away, whether beautiful or not.
If she were a confident, independent, and secure woman he probably would never have anything to do with her.

That's probably why he resented Kelsey so much. Once he realized she was more secure and independent than he thought, he had no use for her anymore.

It worked for him when she was pregnant and needy without a job (and he was going to provide for her)
but once she was working and independent with her own home and able to support her child, she was a threat to him.

At least he will never be allowed to rule over and control his daughter.

 

[Warwick7]

When did Kelsey become pregnant with their child?

Which one?

 

[Ccging]

Can you imagine how angry and hurt KK was to find out about Kaylee? PF made her get rid of her baby with him. I want to know how that first conversation with KK and PF went after she found out.

 

[kkdj]

Which one?

KB2

 

[steeltowngirl]

BBM that sounded like a clear threat to me. Why would someone speak like that if he hadn't imagined actually doing it.

I hope KK discusses that comment on the stand today. Could have been threatening. Could have been his sick way of how he would explain away KB being missing.

Hard to know what a twisted subhuman might actually be expressing with their words.

 

[kkdj]

Can you imagine how angry and hurt KK was to find out about Kaylee? PF made her get rid of her baby with him. I want to know how that first conversation with KK and PF went after she found out.

I'm trying to figure out if they were pregnant at the same time. How old is KB?

 

[Snowsnake]

When did Kelsey become pregnant with their child?

More than likely end of Jan. first of Feb. 2017. She delivered 3 weeks early and the baby needed special care.

 

[Warwick7]

@steeltowngirl

I have always good foo fooed that stuff about missing girls.
Your quote:
"Little girls go missing from the playground (or something to that effect). Though I think if he said that it meant KK's kids."

After today, yes he meant her daughters. He threatened to kill her dog he wanted her to kill their baby....
What else do we not know about that he wanted dead.

I didn't believe it before but I do now.

 

[oviedo]

It's too bad these reporters couldn't have worked out some type of rotation schedule - Sam for an hour, then Carol, etc. they could leave and tweet their stuff, and out comes the next one - we would have continuous coverage IMO. I know they can't due competition but it sure would be nice for us here at Websleuths.... JMO

 

[Kapua]

Men like PF can spot a vulnerable women a mile away, whether beautiful or not.
If she were a confident, independent, and secure woman he probably would have never had anything to do with her.

That's probably why he resented Kelsey so much. Once he realized she was more secure and independent than he thought, he probably had no use for her anymore.

It worked for him when she was pregnant and needy without a job (and he was going to provide for her)
but once she was working and independent with her own home, she was a threat to him.

At least he will never be allowed to rule over and control his daughter.

THIS^

 

[Black eyed pea]

I'm curious if that $700 he was paying each month for child support actually came out of his pocket or if his mom was paying it?

 

[Elliot_Alderson]

What an asshat idiot this dummy is. "Please don't marry that guy, you're such a princess that I'll come kill your border collie."

 

[Ccging]

I'm trying to figure out if they were pregnant at the same time. How old is KB?

I believe her birthday is in October, I’m pretty sure that’s when CB said they flew out for her first birthday party. So she just turned 2.

 

[MsBetsy]

Can you imagine how angry and hurt KK was to find out about Kaylee? PF made her get rid of her baby with him. I want to know how that first conversation with KK and PF went after she found out.

Did he know he already had a baby on the way when he told her to get rid of it?

 

[NuttMegg]

I hope KK discusses that comment on the stand today. Could have been threatening. Could have been his sick way of how he would explain away KB being missing.

Hard to know what a twisted subhuman might actually be expressing with their words.

Is the gender of her own children public knowledge? I ask because he specifically said "little girls" go missing from playgrounds....

 

[Warwick7]

Men like PF can spot a vulnerable women a mile away, whether beautiful or not.
If she were a confident, independent, and secure woman he probably would never have anything to do with her.

That's probably why he resented Kelsey so much. Once he realized she was more secure and independent than he thought, he had no use for her anymore.

It worked for him when she was pregnant and needy without a job (and he was going to provide for her)
but once she was working and independent with her own home and able to support her child, she was a threat to him.

At least he will never be allowed to rule over and control his daughter.

I wish there was a nuclear bomb like button....cause this post deserves one!