CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - *Arrest* #60

[oviedo]

Why are you saying after 2:20?

She did a web search for a recipe at 2:20 it’s upthread

 

[NoSI]

Verdammte Scheisse!

So ein verdammter Mist! Zefix!

 

[girlhasnoname]

I'm curious how KK knew at that point that KB's mother would be coming to the condo.

JMO

Because she disappeared completely unlike anything Kelsey has ever done.

 

[oviedo]

This tight couldn't bag them, to destroy them later.
So did he then use the drier.
A real moron.
There would be shirts of Kelsey he could wear and pants he could cut so they may cover his ugly bum, but PF needed this outfit as precious.
Hope there is blood evidence near the washing machine, or did delicate try hand washing.

Didn’t they take some of his clothing from the ranch?

 

[Best of What's Around]

Late today, they said Frazee washed his clothes while he was at Berreth’s townhome. That’s according to Krystal Kenney

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And that perfectly answers not only why he had no blood on him when he left - but what he would have been doing there for a couple hours afterward if not cleaning up the crime scene. It matches the timeline established by security footage and phones very well.

 

[iQuill]

Those pesky truths do have a habit of getting in the way, don't they?

JMO

Most likely two gates, one at the top and one at the bottom of the stairs. MOO

 

[MemPat]

Without her though they wouldn’t have known the crime scene, or how this all went down (Nash, Fire, misdirection).

They would know that Kelsey was likely dead, and who did it.

But they couldn’t prove those things. KK would go down for lying to the FBI, and PF might have gone on to raise his daughter and abuse his farm animals.

That wouldn’t be justice.

Every extra day BabyK was with the Frazees was an injustice.

I'm so thankful for PF's pure ignorance about cell phones which quickly led to KK.

 

[susiQ]

According to 9News KUSA:

PF told KK that he cleaned up at Kelsey's and washed his clothes there.

With all his “planning” that “genius” didn’t think to bring some clean clothes along? Well, it is PF we’re talking about, right? He was the “Mensa” that told KK to hit KB over the head with a metal pipe and there wouldn’t be much blood. Boy was he wrong!

 

[Tippy Lynn]

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[MassGuy]

With all his “planning” that “genius” didn’t think to bring some clean clothes along? Well, it is PF we’re talking about, right? He was the “Mensa” that told KK to hit KB over the head with a metal pipe and there wouldn’t be much blood. Boy was he wrong!

Atleast he figured out how to use the washer and dryer. Gotta give him credit for that one.

I’m a bit surprised there wasn’t a call to mommy at this time.

“I undressed myself, and put the clothes in the machine. What now Ma?”

 

[zea mays]

Most likely two gates, one at the top and one at the bottom of the stairs. MOO

Or no gates at all! The whole abuse conversation was lies PF told KK to try to get her to kill KB. It literally does not matter one bit if there was any truth in the lies he told KK. MOO.

 

[Love Never Fails]

So someone who has even a shred of sympathy for Krystal, anyone, tell me this.
She cleans a horrific murder scene, then she goes to Sonic and buys food for herself, Patrick and Kaylee, then he tells her along the way that Kelsey’s last words were “Please stop!”, then she flies to Las Vegas and partied with her friends. Now how is the jury supposed to have sympathy for her? How does that testimony help the prosecution if the jury hates her? I’m sick to my stomach to think this person breathes our air. And I want Patrick put away for life. But how is it she isn’t punished for her role? Karma? BS. She is worse than I thought.

 

[zea mays]

With all his “planning” that “genius” didn’t think to bring some clean clothes along? Well, it is PF we’re talking about, right? He was the “Mensa” that told KK to hit KB over the head with a metal pipe and there wouldn’t be much blood. Boy was he wrong!

I actually think this may have been one of the smarter things he did (intentionally or not, lol!). If he was seen in person or on camera this way he's seen wearing the same clothes. And, blood is much easier to get out of clothing if you wash it immediately.

 

[Seattle1]

Sam's response to whether or not SF is eavesdropping outside the courtroom doors:

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She’s sitting outside but I wouldn’t say she can hear much, if anything at all. She’s always needed the hearing aid in previous hearings

6:08 PM - 6 Nov 2019

 

[Cortne]

Dang, wrong night to have only one drink.
We are so sorry this happened to you Kelsey!!
I am so sick after today.

 

[girlhasnoname]

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Thanks Tippy, I love Sam's detailed recaps as well as the ones you've been linking as well.

 

[Warwick7]

Not if the tooth didn't come out on the first blow.. moo

There's nothing to say that those first hits or even towards her head they could have been any part of her body beating her to death.

 

[zea mays]

So someone who has even a shred of sympathy for Krystal, anyone, tell me this.
She cleans a horrific murder scene, then she goes to Sonic and buys food for herself, Patrick and Kaylee, then he tells her along the way that Kelsey’s last words were “Please stop!”, then she flies to Las Vegas and partied with her friends. Now how is the jury supposed to have sympathy for her? How does that testimony help the prosecution if the jury hates her? I’m sick to my stomach to think this person breathes our air. And I want Patrick put away for life. But how is it she isn’t punished for her role? Karma? BS. She is worse than I thought.

I don't see people really having sympathy for her. I think people can use logic and experience with emotional abuse to understand how she found herself in that position. Also, finding herself in that position does not automatically mean that she is a liar and now lying on the stand for attention. People do really, really awful things. But, in this scenario the awful-est thing was killing KB with KB2 in the house. And only one person did that.

 

[Tippy Lynn]

Thanks Tippy, I love Sam's detailed recaps as well as the ones you've been linking as well.

He's been my favorite on this case.

 

[girlhasnoname]

Sam's response to whether or not SF is eavesdropping outside the courtroom doors:

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She’s sitting outside but I wouldn’t say she can hear much, if anything at all. She’s always needed the hearing aid in previous hearings

6:08 PM - 6 Nov 2019

Good to hear S1!