CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - *Arrest* #60

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  • #101
I doubt you are trying to understand where I'm coming from. Patrick may be charged with murder but the charge doesn't make him guilty. I respect our system of justice.

I merely pointed out that the prosecution has yet to point out to the jury how much blood evidence was detected by chemicals at the residence of KB. I don't know that PF burned anything in his mother's front yard on the date in question nor do I know his mother witnessed it. I do know KK lied to federal agents and has an agenda for keeping herself out of prison.

JMO


KK bothers me and I can't give her a pass yet. She isn't squeaky clean IMO
 
  • #102
Question: that meeting he had with his brother at 5Guys when CBI showed up and he told him to hand his phone over...how did CBI know he was there...followed him or tipped off?
I believe it was a planned meeting after LE called PF for a meeting and PF panicked and
called his brother to meet him there.
 
  • #103
Reposting: NOV 4, updated NOV 5, 2019
Woodland Park Verizon store employee describes interaction with Frazee on Dec. 11
[...]

On Nov. 22, the bedroom camera had 27 notifications throughout the day. There were a lot around the late 11 o’clock hour, often around noon, and more around 1:20 p.m. Then there were more again around 4:20-4:30 p.m. An investigator with the 4th Judicial DA's office was able to extract 34 cached file images from Nov. 22, 2018. 27 of those came from the bedroom camera (the same number of notifications Jackson got from that camera). Of those 27, the cameras caught Frazee 11 different times.

The images show a photo appearing to be Berreth entering her home with a baby carrier at 3:54 a.m. (Nov. 22). That aligns with her getting home. Another photo shows a cat passing by. Another photo that day at 11:56 a.m. shows Berreth at her door. A different photo shows Frazee at 12:36 p.m. looking to enter Berreth's home. That’s the first spot of him. The second photo is at 12:37 p.m. His back is to the camera.

Photos then show the door open at 1:23 p.m. and again at 1:23. The photo picks up Frazee, Kelsey Berreth, and Kaylee. It's the last photo of Kelsey. Another photo picks up Frazee outside again at 1:24 p.m. The next is at 4:20 p.m. and shows Frazee holding Kaylee. He’s captured again on the camera at 4:24 p.m. with his back to the camera, no child. He’s captured again at 4:26, holding Kaylee with his back to camera. Frazee is captured again at 4:27, back to the camera and holding the child. Next capture shows the door open at 4:28. Next capture shows Frazee at 4:28 with his back to the camera. Next cached image is the 10th time Frazee is captured on surveillance. This is at 4:29. His back is to the camera. 11th capture of Frazee is at 4:30 with his back to the camera again.

[...]

Now we need to know why so many in and outs.....I truly believe he was taking things out. Wish there was better footage.
 
  • #104
Carol McKinley on Twitter
Expecting explosive day in the #PatrickFrazee trial. Tues, Judge indicated the prosecution is expecting out of town witnesses.
Pros narrative : #kelseyberreth thought she & PF were going gp out for a family Thanksgiving, even buying champagne but Frazee had murderous plans. @abc
6:09 AM - 6 Nov 2019

Daniela Leon on Twitter
The trial against #PatrickFrazee continues we heard from his brother Officer Sean Frazee about an ongoing family dispute within the family over their late father’s assets. Officer Frazee also never really knew Kelsey.
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6:32 AM - 6 Nov 2019

BBM

Well come on in little darling .... we've been waiting... pull up a chair and let's chat a spell.
 
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  • #105
I believe it was a planned meeting after LE called PF for a meeting and PF panicked and
called his brother to meet him there.
I thought Sam said the brothers planned to meet about something about their father's estate, hand over a death cert maybe?
 
  • #106
KK bothers me and I can't give her a pass yet. She isn't squeaky clean IMO
agree, she's a lowlife also just protecting herself at this point.
Just hope she continues on the course of hanging PF.
 
  • #107
Reposting: NOV 4, updated NOV 5, 2019
Woodland Park Verizon store employee describes interaction with Frazee on Dec. 11
[...]

On Nov. 22, the bedroom camera had 27 notifications throughout the day. There were a lot around the late 11 o’clock hour, often around noon, and more around 1:20 p.m. Then there were more again around 4:20-4:30 p.m. An investigator with the 4th Judicial DA's office was able to extract 34 cached file images from Nov. 22, 2018. 27 of those came from the bedroom camera (the same number of notifications Jackson got from that camera). Of those 27, the cameras caught Frazee 11 different times.

The images show a photo appearing to be Berreth entering her home with a baby carrier at 3:54 a.m. (Nov. 22). That aligns with her getting home. Another photo shows a cat passing by. Another photo that day at 11:56 a.m. shows Berreth at her door. A different photo shows Frazee at 12:36 p.m. looking to enter Berreth's home. That’s the first spot of him. The second photo is at 12:37 p.m. His back is to the camera.

Photos then show the door open at 1:23 p.m. and again at 1:23. The photo picks up Frazee, Kelsey Berreth, and Kaylee. It's the last photo of Kelsey. Another photo picks up Frazee outside again at 1:24 p.m. The next is at 4:20 p.m. and shows Frazee holding Kaylee. He’s captured again on the camera at 4:24 p.m. with his back to the camera, no child. He’s captured again at 4:26, holding Kaylee with his back to camera. Frazee is captured again at 4:27, back to the camera and holding the child. Next capture shows the door open at 4:28. Next capture shows Frazee at 4:28 with his back to the camera. Next cached image is the 10th time Frazee is captured on surveillance. This is at 4:29. His back is to the camera. 11th capture of Frazee is at 4:30 with his back to the camera again.

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7 pictures between 4:20 and 4:30. 7 times he went in and out in 10 minutes! Thank you for this post Pommy.
 
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not entirely sure but i know some of kelseys stuff was missing like the phone, keys, and purse. so i surmise that LE considers that a robbery that happened at or around the time of the murder. IMO.
I wonder she had a safe they tried to break into.
MOO
 
  • #110
Question: that meeting he had with his brother at 5Guys when CBI showed up and he told him to hand his phone over...how did CBI know he was there...followed him or tipped off?

There was also some talk that the meeting was for a child welfare check. Others have mentioned the financial issues led to the meeting.

ETA: Another member pointed out that SF2 testified it was a meeting to talk about the father’s estate. I didn’t see that before I made this post. I wonder if that means PF was being followed.
 
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  • #111
Wish I could be there watching today in person!
 
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I believe it was a planned meeting after LE called PF for a meeting and PF panicked and
called his brother to meet him there.
I agree. Brothers say it was to go over inheritance stuff, but I don't believe that.
 
  • #114
I thought Sam said the brothers planned to meet about something about their father's estate, hand over a death cert maybe?
I missed any mention of the death certificate but SF2 did say they were meeting about their father's estate. MOO

Frazee's possible financial problems become focus of testimony
Patrick's brother said he was with Patrick at Five Guys in Colorado Springs when police seized his phone. When asked by the defense why they were together, Sean said it was to deal with legal issues regarding the estate.
 
  • #115
Could someone share the link of Sam and is Twitter report from last night.
 
  • #116
How does attempted robbery fit into the felony murder charge? "Death during attempted robbery"?
IMO the deposits that PF made at the ATM were checks that belonged to KB. I think they are going to say he stole them from her condo during the murder.
 
  • #117
Are there any live streams of this trial or just reporters' tweets? Excuse my ignorance, still trying to catch up here.
 
  • #118
Not each time. He wasn't seen with the baby again until 4:20 and then each time after that for the next ten minutes he was seen without carrying the baby with his back to the camera.

Imo

In her lunch break report yesterday, Jennifer Meckles of Denver's Channel 5 News described at 2:12 in the video that "you can't really tell much". She commented that his back was to the camera in all of them EXCEPT the one that verifies that he picked up the baby at around 12:30. She said that the CBI officer said he identified the person in the photos as PF by "....he looks like him, and the T-shirt, the hat, the jeans and the shoes that all seem to match what PF was wearing that day. Ms. Meckles says that in her opinion, it looks in several of them like he is carrying a baby, but she couldn't really tell.
So, I'm really confused here. If there is a fence that is higher than PF's waist blocking the view, how did the officer observe his jeans and shoes? Also, is the back of PF's head that distinctive? So are we really discussing identification of a hat and hat and t-shirt, with possible baby? As always, JMO.
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FROM EVERYTHING TO NOTHING/PF's life theme:
If pf had actually married kb they wouldn't have wanted for anything financially or otherwise.
PF had a safety cushion in a LOT OF WAYS with KB. She was concerned over his health, wanted to cook him something special for Thanksgiving, she probably would have lived on the Franch, she was a good mother to cb2, and it sounds like her parents would have financially helped them, i.e., their offer to help them get a ranch.
(Btw I know a couple whose wife's parents co-signed for them, otherwise they would have NEVER had a house. It worked out fine).
He's a fool. Now he has NADA.
 
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