CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - *Arrest* #60

[NuttMegg]

I'm not sure if it has wheels or not but it's been described as black with silver handles, and Sam Kraemer thinks it's about 4 ft wide and 2 1/2 ft deep, IIRC. MOO

Well, that's dang big. I'm 5'3" and could probably fit in there. But there is one dimension missing, I think. But if it can be moved around it must not be one of those that go across the bed of the pickup, they are usually bolted on, ie for tool storage, etc.

 

[PommyMommy]

Well, that's dang big. I'm 5'3" and could easily fit in there. But there is one dimension missing, I think. But if it can be moved around it must not be one of those that go across the bed of the pickup, they are usually bolted on, ie for tool storage, etc.

Yeah, it's not the bolted-on type. When KK accompanied investigators to the ranchette during the search, not only did she point out the area in which PF burned KB's body, but also similar totes to the one in which her body was placed. MOO

 

[GoJacks]

Clarification I discovered...the short video by DanielaLeonTV on twitter yesterday that indicated PF leaving the courthouse was actually SF2. Which explains the hairgrowth I noticed. PF was "freshly shaven" Monday, and this video has some growth showing. Boy, those two brothers are spittin' images of each other.

I don't know what you mean by "hair growth" but that is PF. If you are talking about the guy in the red/checkered shirt. Where did you even seen a picture of him from Monday?

Daniela Leon on Twitter
This guy. It's PF and he looks exactly like he did on Friday.

It would also line up with what a lot of the media said PF was wearing.

Edit: someone even asked.

@XXXX
Replying to
@danielaleontv
@FOX21News
and
@KDVR
Isn’t that his brother Sean Frazee?


Daniela Leon
@danielaleontv
Hi there, no that’s Patrick. His brother has a beard and wouldn’t have been escorted.

 

[MsBetsy]

7 pictures between 4:20 and 4:30. 7 times he went in and out in 10 minutes! Thank you for this post Pommy.

I'm not sure it means he went in and out of the condo seven times.
Many of the images were only within one minute of each other so he may have been captured on camera a few times during one trip to or from the condo.
At 4:26 there is an image of him, then at 4:28 it shows the door open, then him in an image again at 4:29 and 4:30.
It seems to always show his back to the camera so it seems like it never captured him leaving if the camera is facing the door.
It's hard to say without seeing the images. I'm not sure even LE has been able to put it together.

Imo

 

[Gardenista]

I don't know what you mean by "hair growth" but that is PF. If you are talking about the guy in the red/checkered shirt. Where did you even seen a picture of him from Monday?

Daniela Leon on Twitter
This guy. It's PF and he looks exactly like he did on Friday.

It would also line up with what a lot of the media said PF was wearing.

Someone asked if it was Sean on her twitter. Response:

Daniela Leon‏Verified account @danielaleontv 13h13 hours ago
Hi there, no that’s Patrick. His brother has a beard and wouldn’t have been escorted.

 

[oviedo]

Thanks, oviedo. This is just an astonishing amount of explosive testimony. I hope we're able to keep our eyes on the ball today and not see any more bickering about insignificant details that derail the thread and disrupt the flow of information.

The prosecution is putting on a STELLAR case against this viscious monster who brutally murdered a beautiful, innocent mother and destroyed countless lives FOREVER in the process.

PF murdered Kelsey; plain and simple. He beat her head in with a damn baseball bat, knocking her teeth out of her head in the process and then went and sat down for Thanksgiving dinner.

How anyone can defend this vile cretin is beyond me; it's repulsive.
Make no mistake about it.

PF is going to spend the remainder of his pathetic life in a cage where he belongs just like CW. I remember some believing he was innocent too. MOO

You are welcome - thank you for updating all of us with the tweets - and the media thread. I really feel like the Day 1 testimony set the stage and the prosecution is masterful IMO.

As far as the thread goes today - I've got my ignore button handy but it is very disruptive. opinions are fine of course that's what we do. but they need to be reasonable IMO.

 

[justme11]

This is what I picture for the 'tote'. Not like what we may use for holiday decor, clothes, etc. These are heavy duty, come in a variety of sizes.
Some do come with a flip up handle on one end and two wheels on the opposite end.
There are some with the clasps on the front instead of the ends too. JMO, I could be way off!

 

[GoJacks]

Sam Kraemer
@SamKraemerTV
Replying to
@SamKraemerTV
Without getting super technical, that’s really the big takeaway. Judge Scott Sells is also closing the courtroom for 10 minutes or so to discuss possible testimony from an upcoming witness. He says he wants to ensure the jury doesn’t hear that info.
@KOAA
#KelseyBerreth

Sam Kraemer
@SamKraemerTV
Sells says there are privacy concerns with this witness or witnesses. The judge also says he expects around 80 more witnesses to be called as part of the murder trial of Patrick Frazee.
@KOAA
#KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney

 

[MsBetsy]

yes, i noted that also. and many members are wondering how he got the tote in and out but i started thinking maybe he dismembered her in bathtub and carried sections of her out in trash bags which we would not see in the pictures because of the fence. and then put the bags in the tote in the truck. i asked about field of view because i'm wondering how wide of an area the camera sees. and if the camera saw the truck, which i doubt.
anyway, this is kind of the theory i'm rolling with now. may change later.

I don't see how he could have had time to dismember the body if he killed her sometime after 2:30.
He would have had to do a lot of work before cleaning up and showering and changing his clothes, especially with the baby there.
I can't imagine him dismembering a body, putting all the pieces in bags, cleaning himself up, taking the baby and all those bags out to the truck in less than two hours.

Imo

 

[Gardenista]

Sam Kraemer
@SamKraemerTV
Replying to
@SamKraemerTV
Without getting super technical, that’s really the big takeaway. Judge Scott Sells is also closing the courtroom for 10 minutes or so to discuss possible testimony from an upcoming witness. He says he wants to ensure the jury doesn’t hear that info.
@KOAA
#KelseyBerreth

Sam Kraemer
@SamKraemerTV
Sells says there are privacy concerns with this witness or witnesses. The judge also says he expects around 80 more witnesses to be called as part of the murder trial of Patrick Frazee.
@KOAA
#KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney

Hoping this is KK!

 

[PommyMommy]

Here we go...

Sam Kraemer on Twitter
Morning notes:
- Kevin Hoyland, an FBI expert on cell phones, has been the sole witness thus far. He’s provided an insane amount of detail to show his belief that Berreth’s and Frazee’s phones were together Nov. 23.
@KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney
10:26 AM - 6 Nov 2019

 

[PommyMommy]

Sam Kraemer on Twitter
Hoyland notes Frazee made some very lengthy calls, one nearly an hour, from the Ranch landline to Krystal Kenney the night of Nov. 22. He’s also just starting to show Kenney’s phone travel down from ID on Nov. 23 & return early Nov. 25. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee
10:28 AM - 6 Nov 2019

 

[Simply Southern]

Sam Kraemer
@SamKraemerTV
Replying to
@SamKraemerTV
Without getting super technical, that’s really the big takeaway. Judge Scott Sells is also closing the courtroom for 10 minutes or so to discuss possible testimony from an upcoming witness. He says he wants to ensure the jury doesn’t hear that info.
@KOAA
#KelseyBerreth

Sam Kraemer
@SamKraemerTV
Sells says there are privacy concerns with this witness or witnesses. The judge also says he expects around 80 more witnesses to be called as part of the murder trial of Patrick Frazee.
@KOAA
#KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney

Did he say....closing court room to roll out the red carpet and turn on the fairy lights in the magic tent????

Moo

 

[Oregon]

The Arlo camera sensor is based on horizontal movement across the viewing area. If the people had stepped into the condo, they would have effectively stepped away from the horizontal sensing plane and the sensing would be discontinued. There would be no picture IMO

The camera is set up to protect the owner’s property not KB’s. The amount of light and color of clothing can have make a difference in what triggers the camera, especially when the action is out of the camera’s targeted area. If the time of the photos is at dusk, the camera is switching to infrared, there are a few seconds when the quality and color of the images changes as it goes from color to black and white. Very greatly that there were photos recovered.

 

[PommyMommy]

Sam Kraemer on Twitter
Without getting super technical, that’s really the big takeaway. Judge Scott Sells is also closing the courtroom for 10 minutes or so to discuss possible testimony from an upcoming witness. He says he wants to ensure the jury doesn’t hear that info. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth
10:29 AM - 6 Nov 2019

Sam Kraemer on Twitter
Sells says there are privacy concerns with this witness or witnesses. The judge also says he expects around 80 more witnesses to be called as part of the murder trial of Patrick Frazee. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney

10:30 AM - 6 Nov 2019 ​

 

[BUF]

Hoping this is KK!

Sounds like it may be!

 

[PommyMommy]

Jakob Rodgers on Twitter
UPDATE: Testimony this morning at the #PatrickFrazee trial focused on cell phone records for #PatrickFrazee, #KelseyBerreth and Frazee's mistress on the day that Berreth went missing.
@csgazette
10:27AM - 6 Nov 2019

Ashley Franco on Twitter
On a quick break right now. So far we're hearing from a special agent with the FBI about phone records. If you remember after #KelseyBerreth went missing her and #PatrickFrazee phones were traveling together for a few days. @KKTV11News

10:27AM - 6 Nov 2019​

 

[NuttMegg]

This is what I picture for the 'tote'. Not like what we may use for holiday decor, clothes, etc. These are heavy duty, come in a variety of sizes.
Some do come with a flip up handle on one end and two wheels on the opposite end.
There are some with the clasps on the front instead of the ends too. JMO, I could be way off!

Thanks. I could use a couple of those. But I don't see how that could have been hidden in any of the door photos, given the slats in the porch fence.

 

[PommyMommy]

Ashley Franco on Twitter
The special agent is basically walking us through that. He's also showing us times #PatrickFrazee called Krsytal Lee specifically on Thanksgiving day later in the day from his landline. One call lasting aprox 47 minutes. @KKTV11News
10:28 AM - 6 Nov 2019

Ashley Franco on Twitter
Special agent is explaining that on several occasions after Nov 22 #PatrickFrazee and #KelseyBerreth phones were in the same place at the same time making contact with one another either via phone call or text. @KKTV11News

10:29 AM - 6 Nov 2019​

 

[justme11]

Did he say....closing court room to roll out the red carpet and turn on the fairy lights in the magic tent????

Moo

And do extra polishing of that Rodeo Queen crown.