CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - *Arrest* #60

[PiertotumLocomotor]

There are so many times, KK could have 'stopped the murder' by going to the Police.
Now she is in Court.

I hope in your case, you have overcome your jerk.
They seem to be everywhere.

I saw a beautiful young women being interviewed on TV here in Australia (not sure where from!!).
She spoke about being happy, being single, and called it 'self partnering'.
Perhaps a new term for many happy single women, content in their lives.
This created a great deal of discussion on the 'talk show'.
I loved it.
Ladies, if you can quickly run away, once things go south.
But I guess, once you're involved, emotions come into play, and we hear of these horrid cases.

Here, PF is squirming, as his personality characteristics are being revealed.
Fantastic....keep going.
He is being fried, moment by moment.
Hope his blood pressure hits the roof, and in his cell, officers forget to check on his well being.

Thank you! Unfortunately, my ex (metaphorically) tossed me over a cliff and I was at my lowest of lows. He really was a jerk in every way. Strangely, I'm actually thankful for what the ex did because that's how I met my husband. We've been married six years now

I think that was Emma Watson and self-partnering! I overheard something like that on the radio just today

It's nice to see a narc getting exactly what he deserves. Too often they slither away, leaving destruction for others to clean up... oh wow, who does that remind you of?

 

[Dave F.]

Don’t think that’s relevant here. He’s on trial for murdering Kelsey in Colorado, not the dog in Idaho.

If it's irrelevant, then why is the alleged threat to murder the dog being allowed in testimony? Just asking.

 

[Seattle1]

‘He wanted her to not be a problem anymore’: Krystal Lee testifies about Kelsey Berreth murder

11/6/19

CRIPPLE CREEK, Colo. — About two months before Kelsey Berreth disappeared, Krystal Lee said she went to the Woodland Park mom’s condo at 9 p.m. with a Starbucks coffee in her hand and knocked on the door.

“She was standoffish and guarded,” Lee said. “It was dark.”

Lee, who had never met Berreth, said she thanked her for putting her dog back in her yard, and offered her the coffee. She said Berreth told her she didn’t know what she was talking about, but took Lee’s phone number and closed the door.

ETA: I recall that KK tried to make a play date with baby K and KK's own daughter and gave KB her phone number.

 

[Tippy Lynn]

Lauren Scharf on Twitter
Krystal Lee, the mistress to Patrick Frazee said that he called her Thanksgiving night saying, “I need your help, and I need your help now. You have a mess to clean up.” #Frazee didn’t give detail into what he meant by that until she was in the car headed to Colorado @FOX21News
2:08 PM - 6 Nov 2019

Didn’t she come with cleaning supplies?

 

[MemPat]

Don’t think that’s relevant here. He’s on trial for murdering Kelsey in Colorado, not the dog in Idaho.

It's early but we may have a winner!

 

[GordianKnot]

RBBM

What is a metal "tune"? Did Jakob Rodgers mean a metal tube?

ETA: GordianKnot, I like your interpretation!

A "metal tune" is like Metallica, or Iron Maiden, or Black Sabbath, or Guns 'N Roses.

Granted, that stuff can make your ears bleed played at volume.

But PF doesn't strike me as a metal enthusiast.

I think we're looking at a typo here.

Clean up the copy, Jakob.

JMO.

 

[GordianKnot]

It's early but we may have a winner!

Agree, it's definitely in contention for Golden Post of the Day!

So much to catch up on here, though, I have a feeling there are quite a few other worthy nominees.

JMO.

 

[Bluepopsicle]

If it's irrelevant, then why is the alleged threat to murder the dog being allowed in testimony? Just asking.

Shows character? Just guessing.

 

[dlharris2712]

agree, she's a lowlife also just protecting herself at this point.
Just hope she continues on the course of hanging PF.

I like to call women like KK and Michelle Troconis - "Ride or Die Chicks"...they will do anything for the man they "love". It is unbelievable to me!!! He** - I've been married 39 years - and I still wouldn't be my husbands "Ride or Die Chick"...it is not in my nature. moo

 

[crhedBngr]

Lauren Scharf on Twitter
According to Krystal Lee, on the drive to CO Frazee said to make sure to wipe off candles upstairs, and there were also footprints too that needed to be cleaned up. He added that she needed to look in a vent because there could be a tooth in the vent. #kelseyberreth @FOX21News
2:12 PM - 6 Nov 2019

I had the impression that KB was killed in the kitchen (blood on covering of cinnamon rolls). Sounds like this took place upstairs?

 

[PiertotumLocomotor]

I think he's so delusional he truly believes he'll get off.

The way he acted after KB's murder, seemed like he thought everyone would get over KB's disappearance, it would all blow over, and he could just go on with his life as if she never existed.

To PF this is his world. We're all just living in it.
JMO

Sounds just like Chris Watts.

 

[crhedBngr]

Didn’t she come with cleaning supplies?

Love your avatar!

 

[Hatfield]

Lauren Scharf on Twitter
Krystal Lee, the mistress to Patrick Frazee said that he called her Thanksgiving night saying, “I need your help, and I need your help now. You have a mess to clean up.” #Frazee didn’t give detail into what he meant by that until she was in the car headed to Colorado @FOX21News
2:08 PM - 6 Nov 2019

Ok This is where I do not believe everything she is saying now. She is trying to paint too good an innocent picture of herself.

So here she is trying to say that out of the blue she gets that call and has no idea what actually happened and yet she borrows someone else's car and begins the long drive almost immediately after that phone call.

Nope Sorry. I dont believe her. She knew exactly what he had done before she headed the long drive to Colorado.

And for that other earlier statement she made in court about she "was hoping it would just go away."

Dont quite believe her on that either. I think it was more like she hoped HE would make her go away instead of her having to do it.

All JMO of course

 

[MyBelle]

For those wondering why in the world KK kept going back to him. I would point out that KB probably experienced a lot of the same coldness from him that KK did. Yet she stayed. And despite no commitment from him, she got pregnant not just once but twice. And when he stopped paying support for months, she still wanted it to work and was excited about spending the holidays with him.

Not trying to lift up KK or bring down KB. I’m just saying that a psychological torturer like PF finds ways to keep you in his web even while actively doing things to cause you harm. He probably makes a sport of it, seeing just how far he can go and still keep you wanting him.

What did PF do that actually caused KK, or her dog or her children, physical harm? PF is on trial for murder, not for psychological torture.

KK claims PF made her have an abortion yet he didn't demand KB have an abortion. PF seems have to have been a hands-on co-parent who willingly paid child support even though not under a court order to do so.

JMO

 

[PommyMommy]

Didn’t she come with cleaning supplies?

We haven't heard that yet today, but yes, that was included in prior reports. MOO

 

[PommyMommy]

I had the impression that KB was killed in the kitchen (blood on covering of cinnamon rolls). Sounds like this took place upstairs?

No, PF murdered her in her living room while Baby K was in the back bedroom. MOO

 

[MsBetsy]

If it's irrelevant, then why is the alleged threat to murder the dog being allowed in testimony? Just asking.

I think it's to show how abusive and intimidating he was.
Apparently the other ex-girlfriend feared him too. (the one who said he told her he knew the perfect place to hide a body)

Imo

 

[Steelslady]

So true. And at any time before, during, or after the murder she could have walked into the nearest police station to share everything she knew. She did none of that until she was caught and confronted by LE.

Makes me wonder about the phone call PF made to KK after he killed KB. Something PF said about "You have a mess to clean up" or something along those lines.

Just speculating. Does that statement imply KK may have promised to PF before the murder that if he killed KB she would promise to help clean up/cover up the crime?

I'd love to have that explained myself. Did Krystal agree to do the clean up, if he killed Kelsey, or was that Patrick's way of saying "if you want me, and I kill her, you had best clean up the murder scene, or else".

 

[MassGuy]

What did PF do that actually caused KK, or her dog or her children, physical harm? PF is on trial for murder, not for psychological torture.

KK claims PF made her have an abortion yet he didn't demand KB have an abortion. PF seems have to have been a hands-on co-parent who willingly paid child support even though not under a court order to do so.

JMO

Yeah, he’s clearly a wonderful father, and completely misunderstood.

All we have to do is look past the brutal murder of his child’s mother.

I think him voluntarily paying child support for a short period of time, cancels out beating Kelsey to death with a baseball bat.

As they say, “six of one, half a dozen of the other.”

We all make mistakes. Or something.

Spoiler

Killing your child’s mother makes you a terrible father

 

[Seattle1]

‘He wanted her to not be a problem anymore’: Krystal Lee testifies about Kelsey Berreth murder

11/6/19

Frazee’s child with Berreth was born in October 2017, but Lee said she never heard about it. She said he texted her at the end of that month and asked if she still liked her kids. She said she had asked, “Why?” and the two ended up having a two-hour phone conversation.

At that point, Lee had divorced her husband, but was still living in Idaho. She said she visited Frazee in March 2018, and came to Colorado again in June 2018.

That’s when she said she discovered that he had a baby daughter with Berreth from a mutual friend of theirs.

“My jaw hit the table,” she said.

Lee said the pair didn’t speak for a while, and Lee said Frazee didn’t acknowledge the child … until a few months later, where he claimed Berreth was abusing the baby, and asked if Lee could do nothing while an “innocent” was being harmed.