CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - *Arrest* #60

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  • #681
Right. Hmmpppfff, if mama thought classy Kelsey was a “hooker”, I can’t even imagine how she would view KK.

I hope SF will be on the stand Friday, so maybe GoJacks can give us an interesting report?!!
yes, @GoJacks , PLEASE go on Friday! Thanks so much. Sonic gift card in the mail.
 
  • #682
Child support should always be formalized with the court, so the payer can’t just stop on a whim.
Agreed. What I meant by that is that a man of character ought to willingly pay it and then some.
 
  • #683
We don’t know that he was happy. We only know that KB had the baby and he had to deal with it...and the rest of the story is horrific.

BBM. I'm not sure what you mean. No court was forcing PF to co-parent and pay child support. His daughter often accompanied him to work, according to this article:
JMO

Colleague: Patrick Frazee is professional, a good father

In getting to know Frazee better, Cline said Frazee has been the main parental provider for the couple’s daughter Kaylee over the last year or so. On top of that, he said Frazee is a good father.


“He took real good care of her (Kaylee). I mean, he had a little jumpsuit for her and put extra socks on her,” Cline said.


Cline said he insists he’ll withhold judgment toward Frazee until prosecutors and police release the evidence gathered against him.
 
  • #684
That's what people like PF do.

They want you to always be in a position where you "owe" them something.

It's just another way to control.

Imo
Yes.....Gaslighting....
 
  • #685
The Gazette on Twitter
Nurse and former girlfriend on #PatrickFrazee: “He was tall and handsome and we danced and seemed from the conversation that we had he was pretty admirable, and had his act together and seemed like a pretty good dude." https://gazette.com/news/patrick-frazee-trial-star-witness-krystal-lee-describes-murder-plot/article_55e3ff20-00bf-11ea-b1e5-63fc8156e528.html … #KelseyBerreth

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4:11 PM - 6 Nov 2019
 
  • #686
PF couldn't force any woman to have an abortion or to keep his child. That's the woman's choice. Just as not notifying police of PF's threat to harm her child. KK has a track record of incredibly bad choices.

Krystal was married to another man when claims she got pregnant. I can't begin to imagine how it makes her husband and children feel.

JMO

Justice for the Berreth's, baby K and Kelsey doesn't come from excusing and turning a blind eye to every vile action her killer did.

Kelsey was murdered by her baby's dad. I can't imagine how that will make baby K feel when she's older.

Enough is enough already........
 
  • #687
BBM. I'm not sure what you mean. No court was forcing PF to co-parent and pay child support. His daughter often accompanied him to work, according to this article:
JMO

Colleague: Patrick Frazee is professional, a good father

In getting to know Frazee better, Cline said Frazee has been the main parental provider for the couple’s daughter Kaylee over the last year or so. On top of that, he said Frazee is a good father.


“He took real good care of her (Kaylee). I mean, he had a little jumpsuit for her and put extra socks on her,” Cline said.


Cline said he insists he’ll withhold judgment toward Frazee until prosecutors and police release the evidence gathered against him.

Citing Clint, a man who has repeated things to the media that we know for a fact are a lie, isn’t a good way to make your point.

Kelsey never ran off, and PF didn’t have primary custody.

And dressing your kid doesn’t make you a good father.
 
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No, no, please don't compare this to "Stranger Things". That's my favorite show! PF and KK's names shouldn't be associated with it!

The old saying "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink" I think applies here. I'm done with it.

It's really timely you quoting that old saying, Steels...

I was just thinking about the lyrics to the "lost and forgotten classic" Sheena Easton song, "You Could Have Been With Me:"

You can lead a horse to water, but you cannot make him drink
You can give a man your whole heart and soul, but you cannot make him think

That second line puts me in mind of PF.

For obvious reasons.

JMO.
 
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Lauren Scharf on Twitter
Krystal Lee, the mistress to Patrick Frazee said that he called her Thanksgiving night saying, “I need your help, and I need your help now. You have a mess to clean up.” #Frazee didn’t give detail into what he meant by that until she was in the car headed to Colorado @FOX21News
2:08 PM - 6 Nov 2019
They talked for 47 minutes Thanksgiving night and she didn't know. Well what he saying then? He sure wasn't calling asking for a sweet potatoes recipe.
 
  • #691
LMBO!!! I need to borrow that one please.
Cranius Anusii..... can’t stop chuckling.

If we’re voting for post of the day, I would like to cast my vote for this one :)
I second this- that was awesome!
 
  • #692
BBM:

Interesting!

A Deadbeat Dad who "willingly paid child support."

Funny, I would have said that was an oxymoron.

Ah, well....what do I know?

JMO.
So if you are married for a decade and then get a divorce, does the fact that you’re no longer willing to be married mean you were never willingly married?
 
  • #693
Citing Clint, a man who has repeated things to the media that we know for a fact are a lie, isn’t a good way to make your point.

Kelsey never ran off, and PF didn’t have primary custody.

And dressing your kid doesn’t make you a good father.
Yeah, I'm not really sold on the idea of dragging a baby around dirty cow pastures, donkeys, or what-have-you either. o_O MOO
 
  • #694
Don’t think that’s relevant here. He’s on trial for murdering Kelsey in Colorado, not the dog in Idaho.
If it isn't relevant, then why is the jury hearing it? Did KK testify that PF followed through on his threat to kill the dog? Nope.
 
  • #695
They have my sympathy as well however, surely it pales in comparison to the pain the Berreth's have endured after PF beat their daughter to death with a baseball bat. MOO

While we wait for the after-court tweet flood, thoughts and prayers for all the affected people.

These selfish killers never take into consideration how many other people will be impacted. Im sure PF only thought about the fact KB would be out of his life forever. He didnt give much thought to how her Mom, her employers, her friends, or anyone else would feel. It was almost like an afterthought for him as he tried to push the Mom aside and wouldnt even go check the house for her when she was worried about KB.

And he definitely did not care about how his own Mom, his LE brother, KK's husband and her kids would feel if he got caught for KB's murder.

Its just not in him to think of others like that. A very self centered selfish person is the picture it paints. A common trait in lots of murderers is that they dont think of others that will be impacted if they get caught in the murder. Or even if they give it a thought, then they brush it off because they just dont care.
 
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BBM. I'm not sure what you mean. No court was forcing PF to co-parent and pay child support. His daughter often accompanied him to work, according to this article:
JMO

Colleague: Patrick Frazee is professional, a good father

In getting to know Frazee better, Cline said Frazee has been the main parental provider for the couple’s daughter Kaylee over the last year or so. On top of that, he said Frazee is a good father.


“He took real good care of her (Kaylee). I mean, he had a little jumpsuit for her and put extra socks on her,” Cline said.


Cline said he insists he’ll withhold judgment toward Frazee until prosecutors and police release the evidence gathered against him.

Wonder if he's heard enough yet? Seems like plenty to me. MOO

EBM... left out a word
 
  • #698
Lauren Scharf on Twitter
According to Krystal Lee, on the drive to CO Frazee said to make sure to wipe off candles upstairs, and there were also footprints too that needed to be cleaned up. He added that she needed to look in a vent because there could be a tooth in the vent. #kelseyberreth @FOX21News
2:12 PM - 6 Nov 2019
Candles upstairs that needed to be wiped up/off??
 
  • #699
Another time, Lee said #PatrickFrazee gave her a metal tune to beat #KelseyBerreth, and another time a bat. Lee backed out both times. Lee said she went to Berreth's house both times, in case Frazee was watching her.
BBM - a person with ANY kind of compassion or brains would have warned KB what was happening and to call the police. KB would still be here - and NONE of this would have happened. Makes me angry! moo
 
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