CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - *Arrest* #60

[MassGuy]

If I'm not mistaken, CC claimed that KB had run off before, according to what PF told him. That was a lie.

CC claimed that KB abandoned Baby K after birth and PF has always had custody of her. That was a lie.

CC claimed that KB sought treatment for alcohol/drugs or something, according to what PF told him. That was a lie.

CC was duped and it's absurd to attribute any truth to anything the man says! MOO

Go get em, Maury.

“Maury! Maury! Maury!

 

[Bluepopsicle]

BBM. I'm not sure what you mean. No court was forcing PF to co-parent and pay child support. His daughter often accompanied him to work, according to this article:
JMO

Colleague: Patrick Frazee is professional, a good father

In getting to know Frazee better, Cline said Frazee has been the main parental provider for the couple’s daughter Kaylee over the last year or so. On top of that, he said Frazee is a good father.


“He took real good care of her (Kaylee). I mean, he had a little jumpsuit for her and put extra socks on her,” Cline said.


Cline said he insists he’ll withhold judgment toward Frazee until prosecutors and police release the evidence gathered against him.

I mean, if you wanna hang your cowboy hat on what CC has to say, I guess that’s your perogative. But I think the bottom line is, PF is not a parent, not even a co-parent. He’s a sperm donor. At least in my books. A real parent is defined by looking after the best interest of their child. Killing the child’s mother negates anything else Father of the Year may have done.....even putting extra socks on the baby, dontchathink?

 

[Warwick7]

I think it's to show how abusive and intimidating he was.
Apparently the other ex-girlfriend feared him too. (the one who said he told her he knew the perfect place to hide a body)

Imo

Agreed!

 

[yawningreyhound]

And romantic...
Remember the ex-girlfriend said he would do things like call her in the middle of the night and say he dreamed about her in a wedding dress?

Imo

A manipulative romantic, at that!

 

[Ccging]

I mean, if you wanna hang your cowboy hat on what CC has to say, I guess that’s your perogative. But I think the bottom line is, PF is not a parent, not even a co-parent. He’s a sperm donor. At least in my books. A real parent is defined by looking after the best interest of their child. Killing the child’s mother negates anything else Father of the Year may have done.....even putting extra socks on the baby, dontchathink?

Well said! Amen!

 

[Mind your biscuits]

4:30

Thx Ha ha I meant in the Twilight Zone. Lol

 

[katydid23]

BBM. I'm not sure what you mean. No court was forcing PF to co-parent and pay child support. His daughter often accompanied him to work, according to this article:
JMO

Colleague: Patrick Frazee is professional, a good father

In getting to know Frazee better, Cline said Frazee has been the main parental provider for the couple’s daughter Kaylee over the last year or so. On top of that, he said Frazee is a good father.


“He took real good care of her (Kaylee). I mean, he had a little jumpsuit for her and put extra socks on her,” Cline said.


Cline said he insists he’ll withhold judgment toward Frazee until prosecutors and police release the evidence gathered against him.

Yah Right.

He took a very young child, to his job on farms/ranches, working with thousand pound animals, who sometimes buck and kick at him. Who is watching this tiny child while he is doing this dangerous work?

there are no good answers to that...

If he is trying to watch her while doing dangerous work, that is bad idea.

If he is handing her off to his customers, that can also be a bad idea.

and if she is just on her own, another bad idea.

Tiny toddlers do not belong unsupervised alongside men working with large farm animals.

 

[MemPat]

If he hasn't been there I doubt he'll ever make it there. Unless he lands in an IDAHO prison.

Excellent point! (to coin a phrase)

 

[oviedo]

Lauren Scharf on Twitter
According to Krystal Lee, on the drive to CO Frazee said to make sure to wipe off candles upstairs, and there were also footprints too that needed to be cleaned up. He added that she needed to look in a vent because there could be a tooth in the vent. #kelseyberreth @FOX21News
2:12 PM - 6 Nov 2019

That’s pretty specific information he told her IMO wonder what they found upstairs ??

 

[yawningreyhound]

I think when “chemistry” is one-sided, it might more rightly be called “delusion”.

And CRUSH. When I've had those gut wrenching feelings of limerance, I've finally decided those were crushes. Not relationships. And, looking back, usually one sided. Mine.

 

[Warwick7]

There are so many on here who make me laugh every day, which is much needed most days. And I have the sticky keyboard to prove it. Where’s a good cleaning lady when you need one...busy testifying I guess :-/

Lololololol!!!

 

[NuttMegg]

BBM. I'm not sure what you mean. No court was forcing PF to co-parent and pay child support. His daughter often accompanied him to work, according to this article:
JMO

Colleague: Patrick Frazee is professional, a good father

In getting to know Frazee better, Cline said Frazee has been the main parental provider for the couple’s daughter Kaylee over the last year or so. On top of that, he said Frazee is a good father.


“He took real good care of her (Kaylee). I mean, he had a little jumpsuit for her and put extra socks on her,” Cline said.


Cline said he insists he’ll withhold judgment toward Frazee until prosecutors and police release the evidence gathered against him.

Re your link, he "occasionally" (not OFTEN) brought the baby to work, and then Cline's wife took care of the baby on those "occasions". Was he mainly babysitting while KB went to her aviation job? Which if true does not equal being the "main parental provider". He made horseshoes for donkeys. And, apparently he did not bother to make sure the baby had health insurance after he murdered the Mom.

 

[PommyMommy]

That’s pretty specific information he told her IMO wonder what they found upstairs ??

So far, I think we've heard about bloody footprints and a broom on the bed. Hopefully we'll hear more about the candles this afternoon. MOO

 

[Black eyed pea]

If I'm not mistaken, CC claimed that KB had run off before, according to what PF told him. That was a lie.

CC claimed that KB abandoned Baby K after birth and PF has always had custody of her. That was a lie.

CC claimed that KB sought treatment for alcohol/drugs, according to what PF told him. That was a lie.

CC was duped and it's absurd to attribute any truth to anything the man says! MOO

I stepped away for a bit to start dinner and missed something who is CC?

 

[iQuill]

Yah Right.

He took a very young child, to his job on farms, working with thousand pound animals, who sometimes buck and kick at him. Who is watching this tiny child while he is doing this dangerous work?

there are no good answers to that...

If he is trying to watch her while doing dangerous work, that is bad idea.

If he is handing her off to his customers, that can also be a bad idea.

and if she is just on her own, another bad idea.

Tiny toddlers do not belong unsupervised alongside men working with large farm animals.

The most important thing a father can do for his children .... is to love their mother.
Socks Schmocks!

 

[crhedBngr]

Twenty minutes or so until we get the afternoon's data dump.

 

[PommyMommy]

I stepped away for a bit to start dinner and missed something who is CC?

Clint Cline, the Cripple Creek donkey dude. MOO

 

[Bluepopsicle]

If it isn't relevant, then why is the jury hearing it? Did KK testify that PF followed through on his threat to kill the dog? Nope.

I’m not sure how to explain myself any better. Like I said, he’s not on trial for killing a dog in Idaho. But the things he says and does speaks to his character, his thinking, his mindset.

You seem to want to place more importance on the fact that he put extra socks on his own baby as he was dragging her around cow pastures from day to day.

 

[MemPat]

...anyone else feel like she’s lying and just making it up for sympathy

Nothing she's said so far would seem to "win friends and influence people".

Do you think, friends, family or future employers would hold her in high esteem over the mentioned actions?

Where does the sympathy come in?

 

[yawningreyhound]

He said these things to KK, how did he talk to KB??? Remember from all his craziness and meanness she held a gun up to her head and said maybe life it be just better if I was dead.

OMG, that really happened? I thought that was a fabrication by PF to CB to illustrate how suicidal she was (remember, she was nonsuicidal in her intreatment program)