CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - *Arrest* #60

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What a guy.

Lee met back up with #PatrickFrazee at his Florissant ranch after cleaning #KelseyBerreth's condo.
"He asked me if I got it done. I told him the best that I could do. He said 'You better hope you did, because your life depends on it.'"
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she said she sent him the sonogram. I imagine the defense will challenge that if PF says she is lying about it.

I thought she said she sent him the positive test?
 
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It’s called psychological torture. And he may have demanded KB terminate her pregnancy. She had a miscarriage in 2016 (CB’s testimony). How do we know it wasn’t an abortion and that the second time she just said no. I think KB stood up to PF more than we know and it got her killed. I have been waiting for testimony. I don’t like KK but he sounds like a monster. As for child support we aren’t sure how long he really paid it and he stopped a few months before killing her. Child support shouldn’t have to be court ordered by the way.
There's been testimony that KB was bringing PF to the Doss holiday party. Testimony from her mother that KB was with PF tending to his cattle, buying him stomach medication and returning home at 4 AM. Does that sound like KB thought PF was a monster? The child support was voluntary, not court ordered.

Of course KK is portraying PF as a monster. She has received a very sweet incentive to do so.

JMO
 
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Jakob Rodgers on Twitter
Lee and #PatrickFrazee then brought #KelseyBerreth's body back to his Florissant ranch. He then burned her body and the trash bags.

Lee later drove back up to her home in Idaho with Berreth's phone, purse and gun, making it looked like Berreth fled town.
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5:11 PM - 6 Nov 2019
 
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There are many, many, many things I just can’t wrap my mind around in this case, but one that got me after today is that PF told KK that KB was harming the baby and at no point did she tell him to call CPS?!! If I’m a juror I want to ask that question, why? Or am I just being too logical for this case?
As a nurse isn't she a mandated reporter for suspected child abuse? I'm not sure.
 
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Vicente Arenas on Twitter
Update:First witness this am is an FBI special agent who analyzed cell phone records for Kelsey Berreth and Patrick Frazee. He said their phones traveled together after Thanksgiving Day 2018 when #KelseyBerreth disappeared. Patrick Frazee is on trial murder. @KDVR @channel2kwgn

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10:36 AM - 6 Nov 2019 from Teller County Courthouse

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Cell tower data then showed Kenney's phone traveling from Idaho on the 23rd, arriving the 24th, and later returning on the 24th to Idaho, arriving on the 25th.
@csgazette #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee
10:36 AM - 6 Nov 2019
I think "likeability" is a huge factor with any jury.

JMO

That worked out well for Ted Bundy didn't it!
 
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I hate him.
 
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Jakob Rodgers on Twitter
Lee and #PatrickFrazee then brought #KelseyBerreth's body back to his Florissant ranch. He then burned her body and the trash bags.

Lee later drove back up to her home in Idaho with Berreth's phone, purse and gun, making it looked like Berreth fled town.
@csgazette
5:11 PM - 6 Nov 2019
 
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BBM. I'm not sure what you mean. No court was forcing PF to co-parent and pay child support. His daughter often accompanied him to work, according to this article:
JMO

Colleague: Patrick Frazee is professional, a good father

In getting to know Frazee better, Cline said Frazee has been the main parental provider for the couple’s daughter Kaylee over the last year or so. On top of that, he said Frazee is a good father.


“He took real good care of her (Kaylee). I mean, he had a little jumpsuit for her and put extra socks on her,” Cline said.


Cline said he insists he’ll withhold judgment toward Frazee until prosecutors and police release the evidence gathered against him.
BBM:

"....daughter often accompanied him to work...."!!!!!!!!

Come on, now. Come on.

We all do realize this probably just means he slung her over his shoulder, carried her outside and plunked her in the grass somewhere while he took the rasp to the horsies, right?

JMO.
 
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Ashley Franco on Twitter
BREAKING: Krystal Lee tells court #PatrickFrazee told her #KelseyBerreth last words to him were “Please stop”. @KKTV11News
5:12 PM - 6 Nov 2019

My God. She knew what was happening to her.

I always hoped she was knocked out immediately, and never had a clue.

This is beyond horrific. There aren’t words to describe it.

I hope those words are seared into the minds of those jurors, and they remember them when they nail the 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬.
 
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There are many, many, many things I just can’t wrap my mind around in this case, but one that got me after today is that PF told KK that KB was harming the baby and at no point did she tell him to call CPS?!! If I’m a juror I want to ask that question, why? Or am I just being too logical for this case?
"Logic' and 'this case' don't belong in the same sentence. It is bafflingly weird.
 
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BBM @Lhughessk points out a common trait of abusers: psychological torture. Psychological abuse and controlling are traits of violent abusers and are usually found with killers, esp those who kill their partners (whether gf, wife, or stbx).

This is also why they bring up PF's animal abuse: another common trait of abusers/killers.

Psychological abuse and control are highly relevant to physical abuse; therefore a trial for murder of a partner will often bring up their propensity to control and emotionally manipulate the victim, as well as them having done so in past relationships with others.

Paying child support and being 'hands-on' - in the sense of just being controlling about the child - does NOT make a parent.

We do not know if PF requested that KB have an abortion. He may well have strongly requested that she get an abortion, and she refused to do so. Many psychologically abusive men have demanded that their partners get an abortion, but the woman did not do so. KB was more independent than KK in many ways. She was able to get employment, and may have known her parents would help. (She also wasn't married to someone else at the time, as was KK!)

Emotional abuse is a form of domestic violence and why judges issue protection orders, especially so if small children are involved. I know because my DD obtained one.

There is no evidence so far that PF was abusive to KB or to their child. Domestic violence usually doesn't start with murder, it escalates TO murder.

JMO
 
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My God. She knew what was happening to her.

I always hoped she was knocked out immediately, and never had a clue.


This is beyond horrific.

That was always my hope too. I'm heartbroken for KB and her family tonight.
 
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