CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - *Arrest* #60

[MemPat]

Thinking about Patrick and the fact that he had to walk across the bloody floor to get outside: He either wore socks, was barefoot or had blood on the bottom of his shoes.

LE would have been looking for those shoes when searching the franch. They would been on the search warrant, for sure.

Wouldn't there be signs of cleaned-up blood on the floorboard of his truck? Luminol would have shown it.

 

[PommyMommy]

NOV 6, 2019
Patrick Frazee trial: 'Please stop,' Kelsey Berreth pleaded as she was beaten to death, says witness
“Please stop.”

[...]

The desperate plea capped an emotional day of testimony from prosecutors’ star witness, Krystal Lee, an Idaho nurse who testified that Frazee personally confessed to the killing, then enlisted her help in trying to cover it up.

Lee — who no longer goes by her former married name of Kenney — broke down in sobs while relaying in a barely audible voice, what Frazee told her about Berreth’s dying words.

[...]

Often choking up and dabbing her face with a tissue, Lee recalled first falling for Frazee in 2006 at a dance in Lake George, west of Colorado Springs.

[...]

Their relationship soured a year and a half later. And Lee described a moment afterward where Frazee threatened to kill a dog he had given her, telling her that the previous owner was demanding the dog back unless he paid for it.

But they stayed in touch every few years, often through Facebook. Days before her 2010 wedding to another man in 2010, Frazee urged her to back out. She went through with the marriage anyway.

[...]

When her marriage turned rocky in 2015, Lee traveled back to Colorado and began an affair with Frazee — recalling "it was like nothing had changed — same giddy feeling."

Frazee urged her to get a divorce. And in March 2016, Lee became pregnant with Frazee’s child — news that Frazee did not take well.

[...]

Lee had an abortion, and told Frazee it was a miscarriage. Even though she filed for divorce two months later, the two didn't reconnect until October 2017.

In August 2018, Frazee, 33, acknowledged he was in another relationship, and that he had a child. Frazee claimed the mother, 29-year-old Berreth, was abusing their toddler daughter, Kaylee.

[...]

She eventually grew suspicious of Frazee’s claims that Berreth was a poor mother, especially after babysitting the girl and not finding any bruises on her.

She said she never called police out of fear that she’d be blamed, and that Frazee would call someone to kill her, too.

[...]

On Thanksgiving evening, Frazee called Lee and told her she had “a mess to clean up,” she testified.

[...]

When Lee opened the door to Berreth’s apartment on the morning of Nov. 24, she said she found blood splattered everywhere. On the floor, the fireplace, behind the couch. On cookie cutters, on carpets in nearly every room and on the walls higher than Lee could reach. On a windowsill, on stuffed animals and on a family picture of Patrick, Kelsey and Kaylee Frazee.

[...]

Over the next four hours, she cleaned the apartment from top to bottom — she filled six garbage bags with curtains, washcloths, toys and other items stained with blood that she couldn't clean.

Later that day, she accompanied Frazee to property he leased southwest of Cripple Creek, where he had stashed Berreth’s body in a tote atop bales of hay.

[...]

“He just said he swung away, and that it was really hard," Lee said. Frazee added that using the bat wasn't humane. And that in the future, he'd stick to normal weapons … the old fashioned way.”

[...]

“I saw some of those pictures,” Lee said. “And I knew there were people who cared about her. And people were going to look for her.”

Lee is expected back on the stand Thursday for cross examination by Frazee's public defenders.

 

[Warwick7]

Did you need me to find the tweet about KB looking up the recipe at 2:20? This afternoon we were trying to narrow down time of death based on that and now with the laundry I think we can assume it was between 2:20 and 3:15 IMO factoring in the wash cycle time and dryer time
JMO

That is he started swing a bat at 220.
Anything such as an argument or verbal domestic violence could have went down before however hit her.

 

[Best of What's Around]

No need for more than one gate in that small condo. One set of steps leading to one room upstairs.

JMO

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/269-E-Lake-Ave-Woodland-Park-CO-80863/62719652_zpid/

In my experience with dogs and toddlers, there is always a need for more than one gate. Particularly with a set of stairs (for toddlers - need one at top and one at bottom). But what does this prove or disprove anyway? PF lied about KB being abusive. So whether she had 0 gates, 1, 2, 3 or 500, I do not see how it has any bearing on the case or whether KK is being truthful. Moreover, I happen to have a gate or two in my garage "just in case." Some people have extra or will gladly accept a gift of one in case it is needed down the road.

If this is the strongest argument for KK not being truthful at court today, I think the prosecution is in an even stronger position than I thought - and that was pretty darn strong. It is a slam dunk already as to his guilt MOO. Let's see if he is cocky enough to get up on the stand.

 

[iQuill]

No need for more than one gate in that small condo. One set of steps leading to one room upstairs.

JMO

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/269-E-Lake-Ave-Woodland-Park-CO-80863/62719652_zpid/

Our community of Websleuthers is rocked tonight with KKs ‘under oath’ testimony of the words and actions of PF. It is clear that he was manipulative, controlling and abusive ... to KB and to KK. He beat the mother of his baby to death with a baseball bat and burned her body like trash.

<modsnip: rude and personalizing>

MOO

 

[yawningreyhound]

I wonder if PF was surprised about the blood and how really difficult it is to kill someone. I always thought Jodi Arias was surprised how hard she had to work to kill Travis Alexander (she'd been practicing on tires).

 

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[Safeguard]

And there's no doubt he reminded her of that fact.
She is responsible for what she did, but with her personality type, commanded by his, she was merely a tool for him.

With his intense psychological abuse over that many years -- so damaging, it's as if she had no real personality of her own.

Of course, I don't know her - so I could be wrong - but I do know the type of woman who has been controlled for years by an abusive man.

I call BS! She was a mother herself, plenty of distance between herself and PF...Any "psychological abuse" from him she "suffered" was self-inflicted. The woman was married, had a family, tons of avenues for support. She was a nurse for gods sake!
There is NO excuse for why she didn't alert ANYONE that KK was about to be killed. Yeah, my sympathy for her is less than zero.

 

[Alathea]

New
NOV 6, 2019
Patrick Frazee trial: 'Please stop,' Kelsey Berreth pleaded as she was beaten to death, says witness
“Please stop.”

[...]

The desperate plea capped an emotional day of testimony from prosecutors’ star witness, Krystal Lee, an Idaho nurse who testified that Frazee personally confessed to the killing, then enlisted her help in trying to cover it up.

Lee — who no longer goes by her former married name of Kenney — broke down in sobs while relaying in a barely audible voice, what Frazee told her about Berreth’s dying words.

[...]

Often choking up and dabbing her face with a tissue, Lee recalled first falling for Frazee in 2006 at a dance in Lake George, west of Colorado Springs.

[...]

Their relationship soured a year and a half later. And Lee described a moment afterward where Frazee threatened to kill a dog he had given her, telling her that the previous owner was demanding the dog back unless he paid for it.

But they stayed in touch every few years, often through Facebook. Days before her 2010 wedding to another man in 2010, Frazee urged her to back out. She went through with the marriage anyway.

[...]

When her marriage turned rocky in 2015, Lee traveled back to Colorado and began an affair with Frazee — recalling "it was like nothing had changed — same giddy feeling."

Frazee urged her to get a divorce. And in March 2016, Lee became pregnant with Frazee’s child — news that Frazee did not take well.

[...]

Lee had an abortion, and told Frazee it was a miscarriage. Even though she filed for divorce two months later, the two didn't reconnect until October 2017.

In August 2018, Frazee, 33, acknowledged he was in another relationship, and that he had a child. Frazee claimed the mother, 29-year-old Berreth, was abusing their toddler daughter, Kaylee.

[...]

She eventually grew suspicious of Frazee’s claims that Berreth was a poor mother, especially after babysitting the girl and not finding any bruises on her.

She said she never called police out of fear that she’d be blamed, and that Frazee would call someone to kill her, too.

[...]

On Thanksgiving evening, Frazee called Lee and told her she had “a mess to clean up,” she testified.

[...]

When Lee opened the door to Berreth’s apartment on the morning of Nov. 24, she said she found blood splattered everywhere. On the floor, the fireplace, behind the couch. On cookie cutters, on carpets in nearly every room and on the walls higher than Lee could reach. On a windowsill, on stuffed animals and on a family picture of Patrick, Kelsey and Kaylee Frazee.

[...]

Over the next four hours, she cleaned the apartment from top to bottom — she filled six garbage bags with curtains, washcloths, toys and other items stained with blood that she couldn't clean.

Later that day, she accompanied Frazee to property he leased southwest of Cripple Creek, where he had stashed Berreth’s body in a tote atop bales of hay.

[...]

“He just said he swung away, and that it was really hard," Lee said. Frazee added that using the bat wasn't humane. And that in the future, he'd stick to normal weapons … the old fashioned way.”

[...]

“I saw some of those pictures,” Lee said. “And I knew there were people who cared about her. And people were going to look for her.”

Lee is expected back on the stand Thursday for cross examination by Frazee's public defenders.

Thank you so much for this!

"She eventually grew suspicious of Frazee’s claims that Berreth was a poor mother, especially after babysitting the girl and not finding any bruises on her.

She said she never called police out of fear that she’d be blamed, and that Frazee would call someone to kill her, too."

BBM. This ^ is going to be very important for the jury in order for them to believe what she says, and the jury needs to believe her in order to convict PF.

The defense is going to shred KK/Lee's testimony, so I hope these lines stick in their minds in order to convict PF.

 

[oviedo]

New
NOV 6, 2019
Patrick Frazee trial: 'Please stop,' Kelsey Berreth pleaded as she was beaten to death, says witness
“Please stop.”

[...]

The desperate plea capped an emotional day of testimony from prosecutors’ star witness, Krystal Lee, an Idaho nurse who testified that Frazee personally confessed to the killing, then enlisted her help in trying to cover it up.

Lee — who no longer goes by her former married name of Kenney — broke down in sobs while relaying in a barely audible voice, what Frazee told her about Berreth’s dying words.

[...]

Often choking up and dabbing her face with a tissue, Lee recalled first falling for Frazee in 2006 at a dance in Lake George, west of Colorado Springs.

[...]

Their relationship soured a year and a half later. And Lee described a moment afterward where Frazee threatened to kill a dog he had given her, telling her that the previous owner was demanding the dog back unless he paid for it.

But they stayed in touch every few years, often through Facebook. Days before her 2010 wedding to another man in 2010, Frazee urged her to back out. She went through with the marriage anyway.

[...]

When her marriage turned rocky in 2015, Lee traveled back to Colorado and began an affair with Frazee — recalling "it was like nothing had changed — same giddy feeling."

Frazee urged her to get a divorce. And in March 2016, Lee became pregnant with Frazee’s child — news that Frazee did not take well.

[...]

Lee had an abortion, and told Frazee it was a miscarriage. Even though she filed for divorce two months later, the two didn't reconnect until October 2017.

In August 2018, Frazee, 33, acknowledged he was in another relationship, and that he had a child. Frazee claimed the mother, 29-year-old Berreth, was abusing their toddler daughter, Kaylee.

[...]

She eventually grew suspicious of Frazee’s claims that Berreth was a poor mother, especially after babysitting the girl and not finding any bruises on her.

She said she never called police out of fear that she’d be blamed, and that Frazee would call someone to kill her, too.

[...]

On Thanksgiving evening, Frazee called Lee and told her she had “a mess to clean up,” she testified.

[...]

When Lee opened the door to Berreth’s apartment on the morning of Nov. 24, she said she found blood splattered everywhere. On the floor, the fireplace, behind the couch. On cookie cutters, on carpets in nearly every room and on the walls higher than Lee could reach. On a windowsill, on stuffed animals and on a family picture of Patrick, Kelsey and Kaylee Frazee.

[...]

Over the next four hours, she cleaned the apartment from top to bottom — she filled six garbage bags with curtains, washcloths, toys and other items stained with blood that she couldn't clean.

Later that day, she accompanied Frazee to property he leased southwest of Cripple Creek, where he had stashed Berreth’s body in a tote atop bales of hay.

[...]

“He just said he swung away, and that it was really hard," Lee said. Frazee added that using the bat wasn't humane. And that in the future, he'd stick to normal weapons … the old fashioned way.”

[...]

“I saw some of those pictures,” Lee said. “And I knew there were people who cared about her. And people were going to look for her.”

Lee is expected back on the stand Thursday for cross examination by Frazee's public defenders.

In .. the... future...

 

[Bluepopsicle]

imo, a blow to the head strong enough to dislodge a tooth is going to result in unconsciousness rather than conversation.
JMO

How do you know what blow the tooth was dislodged? It could have been the first, second, or dear god, the tenth.

 

[crhedBngr]

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[BeckyF]

imo, a blow to the head strong enough to dislodge a tooth is going to result in unconsciousness rather than conversation.
JMO

It hasn't been said which blow dislodged a tooth. A conversation takes 2 people and I doubt he responded.

 

[girlhasnoname]

this is what I heard of KK's testimony today*
Also I forgot a pen so this is all off the top of my head.

Okay so KK drives through the night (with a 20 min power nap somewhere along the way) and is instructed to pick up the keys @ PF's house. Believe he had them in something at the gate of the Franch.

Parks her car a little bit away from KB's condo and walks there. I believe she said she only came armed with 2 trash bags, a thing of bleach, a painting (hazmat) type suit, a box of gloves, rags, and shoe booties.

She said she walked in and knew it was bad. Says blood spatter everywhere.
Viehman says, what does blood spatter mean to you. She describes the scene, said it looked more like when you take a paint brush and fling the paint rather than like paint dripping. Blood taller than she could reach in some areas. Says living room floor was covered in blood. Bloody foot prints throughout.

Asks to describe footprints. Says not a child's footprints, not a small footprint, a big boot like footprint. Not cowboy boot as it had tread.

Asks how she started to clean. Believe she said PF told her where to find KB's cleaning supplies. Found an empty bottle and filled that will bleach. Also found windex which she didn't use initially but said used later (they directly asked about the windex, so seem it might be important, perhaps it's what left the streaks everywhere).

Said she spent most of her time cleaning the East(?) wall in the living room. Asked how she cleaned things. Said she used a rag until it was too dirty and would leave residue. At one point they asked how many rags she went through, she said a lot. Said she left with barely if any clean rags.

At some point she realized there was really just too big of mess to clean up. PF told her to wash things. (btw PF called her multiple times while she was cleaning). Believe she did use the washer to wash things but then gave up and started throwing things away. Talk about popping the exercise ball to trash it, stuffed animals, curtains, etc. Ended up with SIX bags of trash.

There was an initial list of things PF said to make sure about. Clean the candles, clean the cookie cutters, grab her purse from upstairs etc. There might have been more things, can't remember exactly.

I believe in one of the phone calls PF asked her to look for the tooth in the vent. Tooth wasn't found in vent, she found it behind a cedar chest.

Asked about baby gate. Tells them the baby gate had blood on it.
Viehman "did you clean it?" KK says no. Viehman, ''what did you do with it?" KK says she put it in the backroom.

Viehman presents said baby gate and asks if it's the same one. She says yes. She says how can you tell, says it's the same style of one with the same clips as the one in KB's house.

....I'll post more later. Want to watch Sam, as I want to hear about the first half of the days testimony.

Thank you GJ, you've got a heck of a recall.

 

[Simply Southern]

@GoJacks ... Thank you for all your super reporting!!

Could you share the reaction of the Jury to KKs testimony?

Especially to KKs response to KBs last words?

Thanks!!!

 

[Bluepopsicle]

@GoJacks was in the courtroom today, and will have a recap for us later on.

Oh wow, what a piece of good news in an otherwise horrible news day. Kind of a double edged sword though... of all the days to have a thorough and detailed report, I’m not sure we really want that with today’s testimony.

Still, i look forward to your report GoJacks

 

[MyBelle]

<modsnip: quoted post was removed> ... I'm not interested in playing the game of convicting PF in the court of public opinion, I want him convicted on actual evidence.

I'm interested in truth and that seems to be a foreign concept to KK. She knew KB2 would not be returning to the condo. If she truly cared about the Berreths, she would have notified LE immediately.

She claims to not know where KB is located and I think that is also a lie.

JMO

 

[Alathea]

In .. the... future...

Good catch.

Some have asked why he would tell KK all the details of killing KB.

It seems obvious to me it was to terrify KK, further control her, to keep her quiet.

 

[katydid23]

KK lied to the FBI. I have no reason to believe she's telling the truth now.

I think KK thrives on drama and being the center of attention.

JMO

Takes one to know one?

 

[tmar]

Every extra day BabyK was with the Frazees was an injustice.

I'm so thankful for PF's pure ignorance about cell phones which quickly led to KK.

We're finding idiots find each other in these horrid cases.
In the Watts' case, CW and NK, in the Dulos case, there is FD and MT, and here, another pair of idiots, PF and KK.
Meant for one another.
Imagine conversations they have together.