CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - *Arrest* #61

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This is another statement where I find myself doubting it’s validity. It’s hard to imagine PF saying he did something “inhumane” (hard to imagine him having the thought plus it’s an awfully big word for him to use). If he did say it. it’s entirely possible he said it to frighten KK into line. It’s also not hard to imagine KK fabricating it to make jurors believe she had reason to be scared. This would be one lie that no-one but PF could challenge and if he did nobody would know who to believe.

I think she may be lying about this particular statement, but I believe many others. And I believe PF is guilty of murder.
I think he did say it...only because I think he wanted to brag that he did what she (Kk) couldn't do..and that keep her in line out of fear.
 
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I doubt we're going to see PF's sister on the stand since she's been allowed in the courtroom to hear testimony. SF is definitely going to be called. That'll probably be another whopper of a day even if she repeatedly says "I can't recall" and/or "I plead the fifth." MOO
LBM

Revolting woman just like her son.
She knew what was being burned
 
  • #1,004
@gitana1 can the defense call her back again during defense portion (after the prosecution rests)?

KK is not totally done it seems. Prosecution said she must stay available.

Who knows if his defense team actually wants to call her.

I really have no idea where they're going with their defense.
 
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KK is not totally done it seems. Prosecution said she must stay available.

Who knows if his defense team actually wants to call her.

I really have no idea where they're going with their defense.

bbm So far it looks like they have nowhere to go! :D moo!
 
  • #1,006
Walking furry creatures, actually. :p

RECAP - Mid Afternoon Tweets

Jakob Rodgers on Twitter
UPDATE: Krystal Lee, the prosecution's star witness, comes under agressive cross-examination by #PatrickFrazee's public defender.
@csgazette #KelseyBerreth
3:11 PM - 7 Nov 2019

Jakob Rodgers on Twitter
Public defender Adam Steigerwald repeatedly questions Lee about if she's aware she could be facing the rest of her life in prison, if she didn't cooperate with investigators and accept a plea deal with up to three years of prison time.
@csgazette #PatrickFrazee #KelseyBerreth
3:12 PM - 7 Nov 2019

Jakob Rodgers on Twitter
Steigerwald also sought to poke holes in Lee's testimony that she left clues at #KelseyBerreth's house and on way back to Idaho. If she wanted to be discovered, he asked, why not contact police before the killing about #PatrickFrazee's previous murder requests? @csgazette
3:14 PM - 7 Nov 2019

Jakob Rodgers on Twitter
Steigerwald reviewed Lee's testimony from Wednesday and earlier today.
"That's the story that you had to tell those agents to get your plea deal, is that right?" "I had to tell them the truth," Lee responded.
@csgazette #PatrickFrazee #KelseyBerreth
3:15 PM - 7 Nov 2019

Jakob Rodgers on Twitter
Steigerwald also focused on the three times that #PatrickFrazee asked her to kill #KelseyBerreth, which Lee backed out of each time. One of those times, Lee drove from Idaho with a baseball bat in her car, which Frazee asked her to use to kill Berreth. @csgazette
3:17 PM - 7 Nov 2019

Jakob Rodgers on Twitter
"You drove 750 miles with a baseball bat; the purpose of that baseball bat was to to kill #KelseyBerreth?" Steigerwald asked. "It was at Patrick's request," Lee said. "No baseball bats in Teller County?" Steigerwald shot back. @csgazette #PatrickFrazee
3:18 PM - 7 Nov 2019

Jakob Rodgers on Twitter
Lee was released from the stand, and will face no more questions today. (Lee also has gone by the last name of Kenney in the past). I'll update more after the next round of testimony. @csgazette #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee
3:20 PM - 7 Nov 2019

Rick Sallinger on Twitter
Krystal Lee cross, redirect and jury questions complete. She leaves stand after stating she did not kill Kelsey Berreth , believes Patrick Frazee dd.
3:18 PM - 7 Nov 2019
 
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RBBM. Quote:

Key traits that sociopaths and psychopaths have in common include:
  • A disregard for laws and social mores
  • A disregard for the rights of others
  • A failure to feel remorse or guilt
  • A tendency to display violent behavior
Describe PF to a "T".
I guess we should be thankful he's so stupid and incompetent.
So sad that the Berreth's have to listen to all of this !

AR Affidavit #67: PF stated baby K was inside a playpen in the back bedroom of the residence.

View attachment 213965
He knew she would be listening to her mother being murdered. :mad:
So glad baby K is with the Berreth's and safe.
Hope it stays that way.

And not in danger as she would most certainly be with the Frazee's.
What if she fussed as babies and toddlers are wont to do ?
Would baby K also be beaten to death ?
I don't want to see another innocent murdered.
 
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@Clayton_Sandell 7 minutes ago
Video of Krystal Lee and her former lover Patrick Frazee leaving court today. (Frazee is in the blue shirt ducking into a sheriff SUV— blink and you miss him.) Lee spent two days testifying against Frazee, accused of murdering his fiancée Kelsey Berreth. @ABC @ABCWorldNews
 
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What hog wash (the bolded section).
KK now tells a major lie to cover her own butt, to obtain the plea deal.
This evil women was performing these horrific, unbelievable tasks to benefit herself, thinking she will be in a relationship with PF.:eek:
Now trying to sugar coat 'why she owned up'.
Hope more is made of this later and she suffers, with headlines everywhere.
Disgusting piece of ####
She didn't own up, though. They hunted her down and had her by the toe nails. She made the deal with them to get a lighter sentence and then told all, which matches up with evidence found.

They had her, though, in terms of her cell phone, her bringing Kelsey's cell phone back with her, even having it ping while she was on her way back to Idaho. Among other things.

She did not come to LE on her own. We must all remember this. Her tears are selfish tears.

She probably is reacting to Baby K's photo hard because I am sure if any of her family and friends are upstanding people, then they would be after her like no other, asking her how a mother herself could live with herself, cleaning up and throwing away the baby's stuff, because the mother's blood was all over it. How she could allow her boyfriend to kill his girlfriend with the baby in the condo with him, and her cover for him. How she could help burn her body. IF she was a member of my family, you can bet she wouldn't get an ounce of sympathy for me, and I'd be changing the locks on all of my doors and wouldn't allow her back into my life or my family's life.

This woman is also a narc. Don't be fooled by those so called emotional outbursts. She's only crying because she was caught, and because she was caught, Patrick was caught. She had no choice but to turn on him. No choice. This woman attempted three times to kill Kelsey. When Patrick finally did it, she didn't hesitate to come and do the clean up and help burn Kelsey's body and other things like trash from the condo with blood on it.

Then she went home and went to Vegas and partied like she had not a care in the world.

Krystal did not do anything honorable here. She did not feel for the Berreth family. She did not do the right thing- had she done the right thing, either Kelsey would be alive today, or Patrick would have been arrested the day after Thanksgiving. That's doing the right thing.

She couldn't live with herself- oh BS. Had they both not been caught, she'd be driving back and forth to Colorado for her cowboy.
 
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First that I've heard of KK and a baseball bat. I thought she picked up a metal pipe at PF's ranch and also left the pipe at the ranch...un-used. She chickened out of metal piping KB.
 
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It was KK that announced at trial that she now wants to be referred to as KL. There was also an announcement made today by KOAA5 (and Sam K) that they will continue to refer to her as KK in their news stories for consistent reporting of the entire case history.

KK is her maiden name and why this divorced woman suddenly wants to be called by her ex-husband's name is probably rebranding or personal.

No matter -- she's still a killer's helper. MOO

ETA: Legal charges are filed against Krystal Jean Keeney (and not Lee).

https://www.courts.state.co.us/userfiles/file/Court_Probation/04th_Judicial_District/Teller/caseofinterest/2019CR17/Order Kenney Proposed Felony Summons - Granted.pdf

Thanks Seattle1. Must admit I chuckled at “rebranding.” More like hiding.

Reminds me of when Prince became the “artist formerly known as Prince.” and went to a symbol. (LOVE Prince btw).

Maybe KK can use a symbol too - 666 works for me.
 
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Good thing I was not in that court room. I would have had to use one of those trash cans to puke in at this self serving statement.

I would lose my cookies if I was in a courtroom and someone else lost their cookies. Gah, remember the Pistorius trial when he did?
 
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I doubt we're going to see PF's sister on the stand since she's been allowed in the courtroom to hear testimony. SF is definitely going to be called. That'll probably be another whopper of a day even if she repeatedly says "I can't recall" and/or "I plead the fifth." MOO
It's kinda funny really, we're all anxious to see her testify (or at least hear what she testifies to) but, the evidence thus far is so utterly overwhelming, it's almost unnecessary!

Nevertheless, I can't wait :)
 
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Just so everyone knows, KK has not been released. Her cross examination is merely over for today.

My apologies for single handedly causing mass confusion.

ETA: Somehow, this is all @PommyMommy ’s fault. She’s probably busy doing something frivolous, like “feeding her family.”

Priorities.
clearly you Frazeed it...but we appreciate the effort greatly.
 
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"They ask her about the blood she supposedly left on purpose. Says she knew people were going to be looking for KB and she hoped this would give them a clue."


The defense is going to be all over this tomorrow. It makes no sense.

IF she wanted them to have a clue, why not call one in? Even anonymously.

Well, now we know that the defense did ask but didn't appear to hammer this home. I actually think she may have left it to have something to prove her story if the poop hit the fan.

And why lie about it when the FBI contacts you?

She basically said that she wanted law enforcement to figure this out, but she feigns ignorance when they do.

No way Jose.

See above. I think it was self serving and she would only say it if she absolutely needed it as proof of her story.

After following many trials I have observed that juries don’t always follow or agree with the sentiments of the majority of Websleuth members. Just recently the Dan Markel case had a boatload of evidence and seemed like a ‘slamdunk’ with surveillance videos, cell phone tower information, wiretapped recorded calls between the main players by the FBI, bank records and more. Yet three rogue jurors could not connect the dots and still felt there wasn’t enough.

The problem with the perceived little lies is that the jury is usually instructed that they can reject all or part of it.


Most members on here are pro-prosecution and have faith in the strength of the evidence but I find it interesting to read the posts of those with opposing views because it may capture the mindset of some jurors and just because some don’t believe the star witness does not equate with not wanting justice for Kelsey.

I have served on a jury and can state that, for the jury I served on, this is absolutely true. However, I still find those posts maddening because they are SO illogical, LOL.

Respectfully, ... and all my own opinion.

KK was a mandated reporter, RN. This is standard yearly training for all medical personnel. We are taught to continue to make repeated reporting for Child Abuse. She knew she could call anonymously to the child abuse hotline and anonymously to LE. She knew DCPS had to investigate. She knew PF had photos of burns. She knew what needed to be documented to prove a claim.

If not for mandated reporting training and speaking with her lawyer friends, I might just might buy this story.

She wanted KB completely out of the picture, never to be see or heard from again. She was jealous, revengeful and vindictive. She wanted to eliminated any competition. KK was competitive, we know from her rodeo days.

PF was a good father to his child, his friends bragged about it. He took her everywhere, had the love she craved.

She killed her unborn child to please PF and she helped kill KB.

But it plays for a nice story to the jury and provides a good alibi to improve her integrity to the jury.

JMHO...

I'm an RN too. I have never had mandatory education related to being a mandatory reporter that stated one should repeatedly call.

I agree with everything else you've stated.

Well the tweets said it was intense. I’m sure she squirmed.

Next let’s hope she:

1. Loses her nursing license.
2. Loses custody of her kids.

Her reputation is totally shot. How shameful, what she testified to. Every detail is disgusting. She’s monstrous.

She likely won't lose her license officially until she is sentenced. It's still showing unencumbered on Nursys.

He’s done.

The two young men also testified that they helped #PatrickFrazee dispose of a metal trough that prosecutors say Frazee used to burn #KelseyBerreth's body. Frazee never told them anything other than wood and deer or elk antlers were burned in the fire.
@csgazette


Jakob Rodgers on Twitter

WHOA. Yeah, this is getting a little silly. Whoever said that PF should be embarrassed by the amount of evidence he left is absolutely correct.

In that video, the reporter recounts testimony that PF asked one of the ranch hands to cover up the burn area, so there wouldn’t be any sign of a fire having been there.

The issue was that the dirt it was covered with was a different color from the area around it.

Oops!

Yeah, I guess that's what happens when you ask teenagers to coverup your cleanup. Seriously.


Yet her nursing license is still under Lee. It's interesting.
 
  • #1,017
KK is not totally done it seems. Prosecution said she must stay available.

Who knows if his defense team actually wants to call her.

I really have no idea where they're going with their defense.
Yes, as far as I can tell, the defense does not have much of a defense at all.
 
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lbm
Agreed, not too bright, this PF.
Apparently his ma thinks the world of him, so there's that.
I wonder if he's just been the damaged kid she's always had to keep her eye on.

Lots of tortured small animals in his childhood, don't you bet?

I'm sure the siblings have a million stories. MOO
 
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I would imagine that want to give the jury a good visual to think about all weekend long...like a tooth maybe with a DNA report?
"and then he swung the bat..."
Any ideas on that?

I’m so disturbed I can’t sleep. There’s got to be significance to the tooth constantly coming up.

I think of us hearing that and pray for all of us to rest. Can’t imagine how CB has slept the last year. My God. This is bad.
 
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So he did not have to do something with her car. That is what likely tripped him up the night before.
And it tripped him up again, because it didn't fit his narrative , that she went to grandma's, with both her cars in the driveway.
 
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