CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - *Arrest* #61

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But these two workers were not aware of what they were hiding/disposing.:(
KK was very aware.:eek:
That has to be absolutely haunting for the both of them. They had no clue, just helping the boss dispose of a trough. I hope they're ok. I know that would haunt my own son, and he'd be pretty damn angry once he found out that he was used in this manner, to help dispose of something that burned a woman to death.
 
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I wonder if he's just been the damaged kid she's always had to keep her eye on.

Lots of tortured small animals in his childhood, don't you bet?

I'm sure the siblings have a million stories. MOO

bbm Possibly so, but I think SHE'S pretty damaged herself. This apple didn't fall far... imo Thank Goddess his brother seems opposite.
 
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Thanks Seattle1. Must admit I chuckled at “rebranding.” More like hiding.

Reminds me of when Prince became the “artist formerly known as Prince.” and went to a symbol. (LOVE Prince btw).

Maybe KK can use a symbol too - 666 works for me.
Back to the drawing board :)
 
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Court TV interviewing Sam Kraemer has a You Tube video on today's KK interview that might clear up if KK is still on the stand tomorrow. If it's not allowed or if it's been posted please feel free to delete.

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I'm still waitin to see if RS is called and which way he'll sway.
Who needs him. He can stay off the witness list, as far as I'm concerned. Do we really want to listen to what a good Daddy Patrick was and listen to him trash Kelsey?
 
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Actually -- I think Defense alluding to KB was killed "elsewhere" may come back to haunt them.

Planting that seed may be enough for the jury to believe that PF killed KB in her Condo, burned evidence of the murder at the franchette, and likely disposed of KB's body "elsewhere."

The keywords here are believing that PF swung the bat, and ended KB's life. I think we've seen ample, corroborating evidence of that.

KB is gone without a trace. No sign of life since Thanksgiving 2018, and PF is responsible.

MOO

is there a published list of defense witnesses? not sure how they present their narrative without some witnesses.... are PF's confidants, to whom he complained about KB, going to testify?
 
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When is Sam Kraemer going live on FB tonight? Thanks!
 
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Who needs him. He can stay off the witness list, as far as I'm concerned. Do we really want to listen to what a good Daddy Patrick was and listen to him trash Kelsey?
Actually, it might be a good thing for the jury to hear all the terrible lies PF told him and others about her.

Imo
 
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I wonder if he's just been the damaged kid she's always had to keep her eye on.

Lots of tortured small animals in his childhood, don't you bet?

I'm sure the siblings have a million stories. MOO
LBM

If that's the case then old ma F. knew what he was capable of.
How she can still be supportive of him turns my stomach.
Anyone who supports the murder of an innocent person is wrong in their head(s).
 
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See the video I posted. Stein knew.

The post with the video I posted is gone. It was mainstream news from CBS.
 
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Is Sams live report on his FB page?

I'm on his page and only see the previous ones.

Thanks !!!
 
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Court TV interviewing Sam Kraemer has a You Tube video on today's KK interview that might clear up if KK is still on the stand tomorrow. If it's not allowed or if it's been posted please feel free to delete.

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Uhhhh. I don’t seem to be getting our man Sam live. Is he late or am I doing something wrong?
 
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Sam is up and live

Sam Kraemer TV

ETA - I must learn how Gardenista made it show vs. just the link
 
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LBM

If that's the case then old ma F. knew what he was capable of.
How she can still be supportive of him turns my stomach.
Anyone who supports the murder of an innocent person is wrong in their head(s).

I agree.

I remember seeing the interview with Jeffrey Dahmer's parents and the heartbreak in their faces.

I believe, like what's his name, the Colorado movie killer's mom, they felt he was off-the-wall mentally ill.

I'd want my child locked up if that was the case and maybe we'll learn that's what Patrick's mother wants.

Time's about to tell.
 
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