CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - *Arrest* #62

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  • #501
Thank you! It was bad the fist three weeks but I’m all better now! I’m still using the whole 6 weeks off though, it was perfectly timed for the trial!
Can you recover in CO and report to us ?
I’m glad you are doing well
 
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  • #503
Thank you! It was bad the fist three weeks but I’m all better now! I’m still using the whole 6 weeks off though, it was perfectly timed for the trial!

Adding my wishes for a speedy recovery.
 
  • #504
dbm
 
  • #505
Can you recover in CO and report to us ?
I’m glad you are doing well

HA! I wish I could, I’d be there everyday!
 
  • #506
I found his knowing her voicemail password highly controlling IMO

And not changing your password when you find that someone else has access is pretty submissive.

No way in the world would I allow my privacy to be violated.

JMO
 
  • #507
And not changing your password when you find that someone else has access is pretty submissive.

No way in the world would I allow my privacy to be violated.

JMO
50 Shades of Frazee - each shade is darker than the one before .
 
  • #508
Were they in separate vehicles ? I remember this happening and always wondered what else was in their cars ..
If PF and/or Ma were going on the run, we may very well hear what was in the cars (large amount of money, clothes, food for baby, etc.).

Flight is an age-old indicator of guilt and used in courtrooms all the time.

Remember Scott Peterson's car the day he was arrested? All his stuff was laid out for the jury to see.
 
  • #509
Were they in separate vehicles ? I remember this happening and always wondered what else was in their cars ..
IIRC there were two and there's a picture somewhere on WS.
 
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  • #510
And KK looks totally pathetic to me as she recounts her history with PF.

I mean, not ONCE does she ever say that he tells her that he loves her.

Some say that she was obsessed with PF, and maybe she was? But you would think that she would somehow imply that PF told her that if KB were gone that they would be together.

Not one time is this ever mentioned. PF chose HER because he thought she loved him enough to actually do it. Turns out, he was wrong, and I think that played into his rage. MOO

KK needs to be locked away in a facility to get help. She needs it...long term.
The girl is bat shat crazy. IMO.
Really, who does this stuff for ANYONE?
I’d do a lot of things for MY KID..a lot, but cleaning a murder scene...not a chance.
 
  • #511
And not changing your password when you find that someone else has access is pretty submissive.

No way in the world would I allow my privacy to be violated.

JMO
You wouldn’t but others might. Certainly KK did. She was so submissive that after completing her hazmat activities, she brought him food!

“Woman, I want you to go clean up muh Murder scene. And then.. get in the kitchen and fix me a sammitch!”
 
  • #512
And police,and FBI.

Well, yes, but it's true that most police would give you a "sorry, nothing we can do until he actually does something" and nobody deserves the information more than the potential murder victim. Kelsey just didn't need to know, she had a RIGHT to know.

I hope this serves as a lesson to everyone who is now aware of this and that is if someone says they're going to kill someone (and I don't mean figuratively), take it seriously. Find out who the potential victim is and let them know they're in immediate danger.
 
  • #513
What a day! Dan May ... is amazing. I wish he would go over to Connecticut... there is a case over there that really needs him.
 
  • #514
I would really like to know how the conversation went the night PF kept KB out to all hours checking cattle.
IMO he was ranting and raving at her and then blamed her for making his ulcer act up.
" You made my tummy hurt so you can just drive your A-- to town and get me some medicine, make it snappy."
 
  • #515
what bothers me about the tooth at KB’s home....PF was in such a rage , eventually chasing poor KB around and mad she lived as long as she did...how in the heck did he know that a tooth was in the vent....did he see it fly, did he walk around looking at his trophy mess....who goes and looks for a tooth in a vent? Did he plant it for KK to retrieve to see if she followed his instructions? I guess people like him...just more proof how evil he is...

People like him? How about people like KK? She's just as evil as PF and she's been given an incentive to lie. She claims she left clues for LE. All she had to leave is the crime scene and the tooth.

JMO
 
  • #516
dbm
 
  • #517
And now we know someone else knew of the intent to kill much earlier and did nothing ...

I assume that other person just thought PF was running his mouth and just talking tough. I know if someone I knew said that stuff to me I would struggle to believe it. KK had every reason to believe it since he tried making her do it, but the guy.... I don’t blame him for not believing it, if that is what happened.
 
  • #518
You are right. Now that I have read more of what he said. I don’t understand people. It’s like there is a fear of getting involved. Maybe he never went to LE at all. The more I think about it, maybe LE went to all of PFs “friends” and asked them if he had ever made any statements. If only one had gone to Kelsey. Maybe they didn’t even know where she lived. It’s all so sad. PF told so many lies to so many people!

Funny you said that because it's exactly what I've been thinking. How many times have we heard people say "I don't want to get involved". For the most part, I agree with that and am very MYOB but there's a limit and that's when physical harm is a factor (human or animal).
 
  • #519
They still needed her for the specifics as to the significance of Nash, and PF may have heard law enforcement went there with KK, depending on the timing of this call.
After all those cadaver dogs and all those people searching, they didn't find the Frazee burn pit.

I'm guessing LE didn't expect it to be so close to the house.

We still don't know everything from that search but we do have the tooth, remnants of the plastic tote, evidence of gasoline and whatever the sticky substance is.

The burn pit was exactly where KK pointed so this wasn't some "people-burn-things-on-ranches-all-the-time" thing.

I'm betting the substance is Kelsey's DNA and that info was saved to kick off next week with a bang.

[Look away if you don't want to be grossed out but I had a friend who died alone in her home where she wasn't found for 2 weeks in the heat of summer. Her body liquified and it was essentially a sticky liquid.]

So I'm good with the sweetie beauty of a deal as BabyK's future looks brighter all the time.
 
  • #520
It sounds like he called KK to tell her that the police had his phone and that she should also "come get these horses" if he gets arrested. Didn't KK testify that their code word for discussing the murder was to talk about selling horses*? If that's the case, what do we think he actually wanted KK to come get if he got arrested? Did he have some evidence stashed away somewhere that he wanted her to take care of in the event of his arrest? Or was he actually talking about the animals on his ranch that SF threatened to call animal control about? And why did he ask about the red barn at Nash Ranch when he knew he was being recorded? I don't feel like PF's smart enough to try to misdirect LE by asking a question that's not relevant. We know LE found the discolored hay but could there have been something else at Nash Ranch near the barn that we have not heard about yet?

MOO.

*ETA: Correction-- KK and PF's code used was "Breeding Horses" (Thank you @Hatch ).
Still, the mentioning horses seems like a code to me. JMO.
Well she knows what it means. She said as much.
MOO
 
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