CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - *Arrest* #62

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  • #721
DBM

nothing to see here! LOL!
 
  • #722
It’s laughable knowing how he killed her. But remember, his original plan was to find a stupid woman who would kill her and take the blame. Enters stage left: KK.

It appears he spoke to Moore, months before he solicited his stupid woman.
 
  • #723
Snipped.,, I do hope the timing for the closings are much longer as we now have seen such a story emerge.

The defense will have to be awfully creative to come up with an effective closing.

Claims made in their short opening statement seem ridiculous now, even though we haven’t yet heard the prosecution’s entire case.

MOO
 
  • #724
Iirc, two pairs of boots were taken in the search of his property. I think you may be right.

That's all we need now.:D:D:D
Kelsey's blood on PF's boots.
He was too tight to ditch them, so I would love to see his face when this fact is revealed.
MOO.
 
  • #725
That is such a long time to wait for the next jaw dropping moments.:(:(:(
Guess we'll have to catch up on all our chores in the next few days, to be able to be glued to WS.
My dog will get so many walks over those days, to make up for the previous missed times, when her owner was glued to the screen.
She was probably planning her escape, to find a better home.
Yes. I have a quilt to bind,for a Granddaughter that can arrive any day now. Thought Dec 2 was due date, but she's working on arriving sooner. While waiting for Tuesday.
 
  • #726
The defense will have to be awfully creative to come up with an effective closing.

Claims made in their short opening statement seem ridiculous now, even though we haven’t yet heard the prosecution’s entire case.

MOO

Keep in mind that the defense said on the opening statement iirc that he didn't do it, and it didn't happen at the condo? Soooo, where is the follow up to that with KKL on cross or anyone else? On cross, they are allowed greater latitude on questions (e.g. leading questions)... so all is falling flat.

Goes to other cases where the judge has slammed the defense for stating a defense or information in the opening statements that they had no intention of bringing up.

Still listening for any crumb of what their alternative to PF is going to be.
 
  • #727
That's all we need now.:D:D:D
Kelsey's blood on PF's boots.
He was too tight to ditch them, so I would love to see his face when this fact is revealed.
MOO.

I'm hoping the next few bombshells will include the DNA from the tooth. I have a feeling if its hers, it will literally bite him in the a$$
 
  • #728
Here’s a trick I stumbled across - you can highlight the post and then click the “speak” button so you can listen to WS !


How ya do that????

I tried in my Iphone and tablet...no speak button.

Whine, in my most southern drawl
..... I want One....
 
  • #729
Here’s a trick I stumbled across - you can highlight the post and then click the “speak” button so you can listen to WS !

Wow!!

Which operating system / device? Thanks!

(I don't see that option when I highlight text).
 
  • #730
Keep in mind that the defense said on the opening statement iirc that he didn't do it, and it didn't happen at the condo? Soooo, where is the follow up to that with KKL on cross or anyone else? On cross, they are allowed greater latitude on questions (e.g. leading questions)... so all is falling flat.

Goes to other cases where the judge has slammed the defense for stating a defense or information in the opening statements that they had no intention of bringing up.

Still listening for any crumb of what their alternative to PF is going to be.

BBM....

DA got some splainin to do. ...
 
  • #731
As we have daily testimony folks vs. forensics, I'm thinking that one we have not seen but expect soon is the person who he was with at the bank, the person who he was with when the ornament was picked up...... and the statements/conversation that PF made at the time etc.

MOO the media has really tried and done a good job of stepping up to the plate for this case. Their online stories are, after 24 hours, very detailed.

Miss Sam! Have fun tonight Sam with your friends but we expect you back online Sun or Mon night on Facebook live!
 
  • #732
I'm hoping the next few bombshells will include the DNA from the tooth. I have a feeling if its hers, it will literally bite him in the a$$

By the end of last night -- I realized that even if the consumptive testing could only confirm this a human tooth, and no DNA available, logic should prevail with the jurors.

Guessing is not necessary to know who's tooth was found in the scorched earth where KB's body and rubbish bags from her condo clean-up burned, allegedly.

MOO
 
  • #733
Yeah, I suggested something like that before the trial started, wondering what would happen if PF testified and said that KK did it, but I was assured by everyone that it would never happen.

Imo

I don't think he will take the stand. He can't pled the 5th on selected questions. Its not on the menu.

I can say I flew over the moon last night but my friends want pictures. I dare them question my word :)
 
  • #734
How ya do that????

I tried in my Iphone and tablet...no speak button.

Whine, in my most southern drawl
..... I want One....
I’m on my iPhone 8 once I highlight all the stuff comes up like copy etc and there is a button for speak
It’s great for the media articles and long posts -as soon as I highlight text the option comes up and it speaks the highlighted text
 

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  • #735
By the end of last night -- I realized that even if the consumptive testing could only confirm this a human tooth, and no DNA available, logic should prevail with the jurors.

Guessing is not necessary to know who's tooth was found in the scorched earth where KB's body and rubbish bags from her condo clean-up burned, allegedly.

MOO

In before someone says it could be PF's or some other nonsense.
 
  • #736
I've never heard of that, but considering how much blood LE found everywhere else, and knowing that he washed some things, I don't think anyone will have trouble believing the blood was a result of the murder.

Imo
True.
 
  • #737
KK is a case study unto her own. Sacrificing and abandoning probably decent relationships for the allure of the cowboy who keeps coming back. Sad, sad, needy validation, and then to boot, he's likely distant and abusive 2 seconds after each teenagery reunion. Her messed up feelings for him scream low self esteem, high drama, locked into a sick mutual dependency, each reaching out and pulling the other back in. As others have pointed out, it's no small thing she left her actual family to go clean up after the cowboy decimated his. My heart weeps for Kelsey, who didn't know the depths of the evil around her, trying only to build a family around her baby.

As for KK, I peg her for a jailhouse lover, MOO she'll be among the first, once her sentence is over, to reconnect with PF, for "closure" she'll tell herself.

The facts that she drove to Colorado contemplating murder, that she drove to Colorado to clean up his mess, the fact that she SAW WHAT HE WAS CAPABLE OF and didn't go straight to LE without stepping a foot inside that townhouse tells me she's in deep with this sorry exhibit of humanity. Star crossed lovers. She's going to feel bad for turning on him. So. Very. Misguided. Never any thought to protect KB or the baby. She said it somewhere, he was her best friend. What pray tell is her criteria? Walking upright? He tangled up her marriage, he threatened to kill her dog. Abortion, abuse, adultery. Some friend. PF is masterful at one thing. We know he believes he's the center of his universe. But somehow he convinced KK that he's the center of her universe. If she could bring him Sonic, in prison, without anyone knowing, I think she would. I'd hate to see her definition of love.

We can only hope, under all that deadly immaturity, she has some kind of a conscience. Somebody's GOT to feel bad about this. We know it won't be PF. He's only mad he had to take matters into his own hands.

I hope the rest of us, remotely connected, can respond in the face of the worst of humanity with the best of it. Random acts of kindness for Kelsey. Maybe bring some sweet potatoes to someone in need. There's a little girl out there who needs to know that, while there are very bad people out there, the world can be a good place filled with good people who care.

MOO MOO MOO
One of the winning posts today. :)
I love the way you explained it. I'm a bit adhd so everything I say seems kinda blunt. But I love reading and I appreciate those who can explain things.
 
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Yeah, I suggested something like that before the trial started, wondering what would happen if PF testified and said that KK did it, but I was assured by everyone that it would never happen.

Imo
That would be a bombshell all right...like spitting in the wind. :)
 
  • #740
How ya do that????

I tried in my Iphone and tablet...no speak button.

Whine, in my most southern drawl
..... I want One....

For instructions, just google your device name and speak text. I use it ALL of the time.
 
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