CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - *Arrest* #62

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  • #901
Hmm the estate checkbook ? The executor or personal representative should have that so is PF ? If he’s the oldest he could have been appointed - maybe he was stealing from the estate and that’s what they were fighting over ??? JMO
I'm pretty sure PF is the baby of the family. MOO
 
  • #902
It’s in Sam’s last Facebook Live if you’re feeling motivated.

I thought it was sealed?!!! Will check it out! Thank you!
 
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I really want to know the story on the teeth stashed at his house. If he's killed before, they could be trophies. Hopefully, we'll learn about this next week.
I don't think there is anything sinister there. I think they are his old teeth from prior dental work / extractions.

The defense might lamely try to say the tooth found at the burn site was one of these old teeth.

Not really believeable, IMHO
 
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Not sure if this was posted last night

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This FOX news reporter added alot.

Thanks, good find. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
  • #909
I’ve always wondered if he brought the tote in while she was still alive and told her it was Christmas decorations or something.

I''ve never put that together before, but good insight as to she told her mom about shopping for trees with the baby and PF. Hmmmmmm.

KK stated that PF told her he hid the baseball bat inside a sweater. I don't know if that meant a sweater he was wearing, or simply wrapped the bat in a sweater. Since the bat wasn't inside the tote, I don't think he brought the tote inside until after he beat KB.
 
  • #910
I think a lot of people keep baby teeth, and a lot of kids figure out that there’s no Tooth Fairy that way.

That how I found out. I remember it like yesterday, I was 18 and...
:p hahaha!
 
  • #911
I'll take a break whilst the thread discusses newbie reporter making statement about seeing CURRENT blood on Patrick in late December after missing and says it was due to a bar hitting her on the face* MOO

vs. testimony from media we have been following that states it was said Patrick said after the fact could it be seen on shirt/pants/boots from nosebleed and putting head down in November and questioning friend if washing would have removed it.

MOO

ETA, toned down post
 
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He took notes but couldn’t be bothered to call the police ??? Honestly I know we’ve discussed the lawyers and her friend (KK) and of course her knowledge and it’s not a crime to Not report but jeez - who else did he tell that didn’t feel compelled to contact LE? Everyone else on that list? (5 people to care for the baby and KB isn’t listed) from the warrant

Yep, KB isn't on his list because he already knew she would be out of the picture. In fact, he wouldn't even need to make a list like this if she was still alive and well. What a snake.
 
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*puts fingers in ears* and takes a break whilst the thread discusses newbie reporter making error about seeing CURRENT blood on Patrick in late December after missing and says it was due to a bar hitting her on the face*

vs. testimony from media we have been following that states it was said Patrick said after the fact could it be seen on shirt/pants/boots from nosebleed and putting head down in November and questioning friend if washing would have removed it.

MOO
Someone should try to message that newbie reporter because that’s a pretty big error in reporting, IMO
 
  • #915
Yeah, I suggested something like that before the trial started, wondering what would happen if PF testified and said that KK did it, but I was assured by everyone that it would never happen.

Imo
It is so dangerous for him to take the hot seat. It opens the door for the prosecution to interrogate him in front of the jury, about almost anything he has ever done. He doesn't have the proper answers to most of those questions.

And that story would not be very believable. he talked too much smack about KB to all his friends. So he cannot now pretend it was someone else's idea to kill her.
 
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PF told her to look in the grate/vent for it, I thought... (?) I have a vague memory that she said she looked there and couldn't find one (?)

She did say she found a tooth and threw it away. Same woman who claimed she wanted to "leave clues" for LE. Sure.
 
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I'll take a break whilst the thread discusses newbie reporter making statement about seeing CURRENT blood on Patrick in late December after missing and says it was due to a bar hitting her on the face* MOO

vs. testimony from media we have been following that states it was said Patrick said after the fact could it be seen on shirt/pants/boots from nosebleed and putting head down in November and questioning friend if washing would have removed it.

MOO

ETA, toned down post

Yeah, it's the Chinese Telephone Game thing happening.

Thanks to Judge Sells' Decorum Order, there's no way to objectively fact check what we're getting from the reporters.

No direct sourcing available.

I'm not going to bother to watch that video...if the reporter got something that big so utterly wrong, there's zero credibility there in my book.

JMO.
 
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I went back and found this tweet to jog my memory about the x-rays.

Tooth fragment from the burn area and teeth found in envelope at the ranchette? Or, did they find something else we don't know about yet? MOO

Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV
For example, El Paso County Coroner recently ran x-rays on undisclosed pieces of evidence. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee
9:39 AM - 18 Oct 2019
 
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KK stated that PF told her he hid the baseball bat inside a sweater. I don't know if that meant a sweater he was wearing, or simply wrapped the bat in a sweater. Since the bat wasn't inside the tote, I don't think he brought the tote inside until after he beat KB.
How do you try to hide a baseball bat in a sweater...holding it or wearing it?
 
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It is so dangerous for him to take the hot seat. It opens the door for the prosecution to interrogate him in front of the jury, about almost anything he has ever done. He doesn't have the proper answers to most of those questions.

And that story would not be very believable. he talked too much smack about KB to all his friends. So he cannot now pretend it was someone else's idea to kill her.
BBM:

"Well, exactly."

This is why I now no longer rule out the possibility of PF taking the stand.
It could happen.
I mean that sincerely.

Never underestimate PF's capacity for moroniocy.

JMO.
 
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