CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - *Arrest* #64

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  • #681
I’m keeping the faith and going with this quote from KB’s Pinterest:

Only God can turn
A Mess into a Message
A Test into a Testimony
A Trial into a Triumph
A Victim into a Victory
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Is KB’s pinterest account still up? And if so I’d be ever so grateful if you would share the link :-)
Thanks muchly!
 
  • #682
BREAKING: FBI unable to link tooth from burn pile at #PatrickFrazee’s ranch to #KelseyBerreth. Other testing found it was human and belonged to female. Tooth was pulverized into consistency of dust during failed consumptive test. @csgazette

Lance Benzel on Twitter
Damn it. We were all hoping it would be hers. I mean, who else's tooth could it have been?
 
  • #683
I am not an attorney. This is my own opinion. This trial is a slam dunk that shatters the backboard.
It is this simple.
There has been nothing, absolutely nothing thus far to support PF did not kill KB. At all. Zero.

There has however been everything under the sun that supports that not only did PF kill KB, no one else but PF could have possibly killed her.

It would appear that the defense doesn’t have much to throw at the prosecution’s theory, as they have done very little in the way of cross examination thus far.

It’s telling that the defense also agreed that the Friday timeline is accurate, as far as closing arguments goes. This likely means they don’t intend to offer much rebuttal when it’s their turn.

PF could be a convicted felon on Monday.
 
  • #684
Reading back (Feb. 19, 2019) on Sam's tweets of KK's version of the events, it sounds more like he has more than a love hold on her, unless she's into submitting to a jerk. Makes me wonder if he had something prior on KK that they did criminally together or she was just too dumb to realize what he was/is? Lust can fool you though big time. I just can't see an attraction to him what so ever but the population is small. jmo

Sam Kraemer on Twitter
 
  • #685
If the tooth was not the grand finale (though I think it was helpful), there must be some blockbuster evidence coming.

Wow! I wonder what?
Ma F? It could happen.
Maybe MaF will do the right thing, like her son SF2 and tell the truth about what she saw that day on the patio? what time Patrick really showed up for Thanksgiving dinner?

I think it's great that SF2 testified first- she can't lie now, because he was there at her house when Patrick showed up after dinner.
 
  • #686
KB would have options going to the health exchange and maybe gift income from parents. I don't believe this was a rash decision on her part. I only wish it had been a decision to investigate her way out of dodge but it sure does not look like it. MOO

It's apparent she suffered from magical thinking. That's usually the case with people involved with personality disordered people. "He'll change if I can just please him enough"; "Sure, he's awful to me but he's a good dad and loves our child". Had he not been caught, he would have gone on to destroy Baby K, too.
 
  • #687
Omg omg omg

The "friend" who had seen the cameras when he'd been to KB's townhouse previously HAD NO BUSINESS BEING THERE PREVIOUSLY. Was he the "private investigator" PF had following KB, presumably taking photos?

MOO....

OMG is right!
 
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  • #689
I am not an attorney. This is my own opinion. This trial is a slam dunk that shatters the backboard.
It is this simple.
There has been nothing, absolutely nothing thus far to support PF did not kill KB. At all. Zero.

There has however been everything under the sun that supports that not only did PF kill KB, no one else but PF could have possibly killed her.

Tell it, sister! (or brother)
 
  • #690
I always worry that with every new case the next murderer is learning things.

BBM:

Just remind yourself of PF the next time you're feeling anxious about that possibility and those fears will be greatly allayed.

JMO.
 
  • #691
They couldn't pull enough DNA from the tooth??? {{{scream}}}
I want to scream with you.

Especially since Krystal mentioned the tooth was found behind some chest and not in the vent, like Patrick thought.

Yet a part of me thought that there might not be enough, after it was in the fire. Just enough to say it was most likely a female human tooth, but not enough DNA to say it is hers.

Oh well, there's more evidence, thank goodness!
 
  • #692
Omg omg omg

The "friend" who had seen the cameras when he'd been to KB's townhouse previously HAD NO BUSINESS BEING THERE PREVIOUSLY. Was he the "private investigator" PF had following KB, presumably taking photos?

MOO....
He might very well have come by there with PF in the past. I mean, if you have a husband, he probably has a good friend who has been to your house, right?

But anyway, I think PF’s story of having someone follow KB and take pictures was just bunk. He lied about what the photos supposedly showed, and no one has seen them, so that’s a good indicator that he lied about all of it.
 
  • #693
With all due respect, (and I mean that sincerely. I love to see your use name come up!),

I don't think favoritism creates these monsters. I have a brother, a year younger than myself. He was the "Golden Child". I was the one who could do nothing right. But because he has a human soul and a conscious, he was and is a very loving person.

He bent over backwards when we were kids, to do anything for me. He understood, even if he didn't understand why, our parents placed him on a pedestal and it embarrassed him made him feel guilty, and ultimately crippled him as an adult,(in that he never learned how to be an independent adult, very well), but it did not make him a cruel evil person. I. M. extremity strong opinion,
You can not do what PF did and blame mommy. No way.


The "golden child" usually refers to how a narcissistic parent treats one kid, as opposed to being a golden child making one a narc (or any other PD). Like your brother, most kids are very damaged by it.
 
  • #694
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Perhaps there wasn’t enough of the tooth for evidence.

But thinking if they pulled up PF’s search history they’ll find “at
what temperature do I need to burn a body at for there to be no evidence” ..... he ain’t a smart one, that PF
 
  • #696
Maybe MaF will do the right thing, like her son SF2 and tell the truth about what she saw that day on the patio? what time Patrick really showed up for Thanksgiving dinner?

I think it's great that SF2 testified first- she can't lie now, because he was there at her house when Patrick showed up after dinner.
As to the grand finale, maybe they have a photo of the tote in the pickup on the way to the Nash place and a photo of the pickup and no tote coming back.
 
  • #697
I always worry that with every new case the next murderer is learning things.

That worries me also.
If a Criminal, noted the various ways, these Murderers are arrested, and found Guilty, tabulating the evidence produced at Trials, he/she may eliminate as many as he can, so the planned Murder, would not have him/her as a Suspect.
Horrid thought.
 
  • #698
Sorry @MassGuy... i had to experiment with the "well, exactly" as well... could not resist...;)
 
  • #699
It's apparent she suffered from magical thinking. That's usually the case with people involved with personality disordered people. "He'll change if I can just please him enough"; "Sure, he's awful to me but he's a good dad and loves our child". Had he not been caught, he would have gone on to destroy Baby K, too.
My thoughts exactly.
 
  • #700
Is KB’s pinterest account still up? And if so I’d be ever so grateful if you would share the link :)
Thanks muchly!
I just wanted to say, that's a mighty adorable doggy in your avatar. :)
 
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