CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - *Arrest* #65

[enelram]

Will be interesting conversation at the Frazee
T'giving dinner this year.

 

[oviedo]

Will be interesting conversation at the Frazee
T'giving dinner this year.

I'm wondering with the family dynamic, who all would go??
JMO

 

[Medstudies]

@Seattle1 @TrialLurking @Medstudies @muppethead

I really really hope I am wrong . I hope they can see it all as clearly as we can.

Oh that was just a momentary- “what if” truth is stranger than fiction thing.

I’ve been in camp “he is going down” since thread 1.

And I don’t really believe we are wrong

 

[jakat]

To beat Kelsey to death with such force is rage. He is evil. Son of Satan. I hope he spends the rest of his miserable life behind bars and never sees the sun again.

 

[gitana1]

But after 2 or 3 blows to the head it would be obvious that 15 were not needed.

Maybe many of them were to a different part of her body. He was determined to inflict maximum damage... not quickly.

Once at our HS baseball game a batgirl (picks up bats after batter hits) was hit in the mouth by the on-deck hitter (next hitter in order) standing off to the side. Knocked like 4 or 5 of her front teeth. It was accidental, not at maximum strength, and devastating all at once. Think what a grown man could do to a head using maximum strength... horrible.

You’d be surprised. Sometimes a person can die just hitting their head with a minor fall. Sometimes they can be beaten repeatedly in the head with major force and it takes a while. It depends on angle, etc.

Someone posted an example here of a woman who survived after being beaten with a bat or hammer (I can’t recall) and suffering her head being crushed, jaw bashed in, disfiguring injuries, eye socket broken and displaced, etc.

She was beaten repeatedly.

By the mention of blood everywhere I have always suspected Kelsey was trying to get away as he beat her to death.

But I also thought the state expert in the Jodi Arias trial got it wrong. I think she shot him in the head in the shower with a 22 and it didn’t kill him. So he staggered out and she began stabbing him. Still didn’t kill him so he crawled down the hallway and she slit his throat.

People who hunt know a 22 to the head doesn’t always kill a deer that quickly or even at all sometimes.

Neither do blows with heavy objects. Often but not always.

I think Kelsey struggled to get away and kept trying to crawl as he beat her like a rat he was trying to kill. Based on comments he made to KK even he seemed surprised it was as hard to kill her that way as it was.

Her comment “Please stop” is similar to other comments I’ve heard that people suddenly attacked and dying make. “Oh, oh, oh.” “Why?” “No!” “Hey! Hey!” “What are you doing?” “Don’t” “Help me.” “Call 911” “I love you.”

I think the first blow hurt badly and gave her a serious head injury but it took a while to kill her and she tried to save herself.

It’s appalling.

 

[GordianKnot]

I'm wondering with the family dynamic, who all would go??
JMO

I'm thinking it's a safe bet that SF2 won't be invited to Thanksgiving dinner at the franch.

And if I were him, if he IS invited, I wouldn't drink the coffee.

Something tells me the Borgias ain't got nothin' on this family.

Just saying.

 

[ajaylee]

It sounds to me like the DA won that battle if this was the witness that defense protested. It speaks to explain the crime scene and answers the very questions we were asking i.e., wide blood splatter on vaulted ceiling and wall where KK couldn't reach. Brutal testimony because the defendant's actions were brutal.

MOO

I wonder if the defense is going to have any questions for this witness.

 

[TrialLurking]

Jo Ann Says
@JoAnnRue
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So sad and disappointing that someone could do this to a human being. And not just any human being the mother of their child. And on Thanksgiving. And then another someone comes to clean it up. This is horrendous. Really despicable psychopath #kelseyberreth got involved with.

Also, some individuals knew beforehand that he was looking to end her life, but they never let her or LE know. May they hear what this monster did knowing that they could have done something. I am just sick over that. SMH

 

[enelram]

One things's for sure: SF2 won't be invited to Thanksgiving dinner at the franch.

And if I were him, if he IS invited, I wouldn't drink the coffee.

Just saying.

yeah, and I'm glad LE got all the bats from the Franch.

 

[yawningreyhound]

I'm so glad the trial is almost over. I think most us are stressed. And no doubt the family needs to try to move on... focussing on the little cutie at home.

Did any of you all catch the Denver Post article outlining the after effects of investigating the Watts murders? I hope all the Teller County people get the support they need!
Shanann Watts, Christopher Watts murders: Law enforcement grapples with trauma, PTSD one year later

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

I'm wondering with the family dynamic, who all would go??
JMO

CC " Please pass the crow,and some gravy to wash it down".

 

[Yellow Rose]

Matt Kroschel
@Matt_Kroschel
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#kelseyberreth
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Rick Sallinger
@ricksallinger
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Patrick Frazee solicited fellow prisoner <modsnip> to have key prosecution witness murdered.<modsnip> testifies with letters from Frazee.

 

[Madeleine74]

I wonder if people now finally believe the state had enough evidence and a finely honed case to take to trial. Quite a few nerves before the case really got underway. And it's only been 2 weeks!

 

[gngr~snap]

To say the least! Frazee was the benificiary on KB's life insurance.

That's a surprise to me. My son has a substantial life insurance policy through his work and has a baby and they live with him, but he cannot list anyone who is not a relative and since they aren't married he listed me and will change it when they get married.
Moo

 

[gitana1]

Is there any chance this testimony could be deemed "too prejudicial"? I'm sure they discussed this with the Judge and it was allowed but OMG - it is pretty horrific IMO. and the physical evidence of the indentations in the flooring matching a bat....

No. It’s has to be more prejudicial than probative (evidentiary value proving something).

Just because it’s gruesome and badly hurts the defendant’s case doesn’t mean it can’t be used.

 

[susiQ]

He is probably relishing it in his mind. He's a sick bastard

And this is what is so very disturbing. He's sitting there enjoying watching her poor, poor father having to listen to this. He's beyond sick. He is utterly inhuman. There are not words in the English language to describe him. Sick to the nth degree.

 

[enelram]

Did any of you all catch the Denver Post article outlining the after effects of investigating the Watts murders? I hope all the Teller County people get the support they need!
Shanann Watts, Christopher Watts murders: Law enforcement grapples with trauma, PTSD one year later

Similarly, here we still have some LE grappling
with the Orlando Pulse aftermath. They had to deal with the victims still there- 49 of them.

 

[BUF]

I don’t remember what trial it was, but that did happen. The jury made a decision right away and decided to stay in jury room for three hours finally letting the Judge know they were ready. The jurors did not want anyone yo think they did not care but the evidence was overwhelming for a guilty verdict.

Does anyone remember the trial?

I do remember MsJosie, but can't remember which one also!

 

[crhedBngr]

Matt Kroschel
@Matt_Kroschel
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#kelseyberreth
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Rick Sallinger
@ricksallinger
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Patrick Frazee solicited fellow prisoner Jacob Bentley to have key prosecution witness murdered. Bentley testifies with letters from Frazee.

Good grief.

Does PF not have a working brain cell in his head???

 

[Yellow Rose]

Patrick just cooked his own GOOSE. I mean turkey.