GUILTY CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - *Arrest* #68

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Wasn’t it in chilly weather? So she would be wearing gloves.
The coffee delivery happened in Sept around 9pm -- I don't think it was chilly though.

And who delivers coffee after dark? Somebody that wanted to "size KB up." I think KK was dying of curiosity to see KB face to face. MOO
 
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GOOD MORNING! Like @AgeofAquaruis , I slept like a baby and woke up feeling much better. Yesterday was a long one for me-- glad you all encouraged me to go, bc I am typically a very shy person.

A few things I didnt get to mention as it was so busy, service was lousy, and I going thru the thread it seems like the site was being slow.

It seemed there were a few folks sitting on SF side outside the courtroom, while she read. Although I have not seen her in person, (just tv, tweets, etc) it appears as though she has lost a lot of weight. Stone cold face still, though. A couple, a man with a beard, and maybe a lawyer. Not sure if they were there with her or not, bc she did not talk to them, but everyone seemed to be far away.

People started getting up and walking toward the courtroom door, circling and waiting. This is when WS started giving me problems. An officer split the crowd to make room for PF coming up. He mustve came thru the elevator, bc all of a sudden I look to my right and he is walking right next to me, noone in between. The same stone-cold squint and purced lips as his mother, in Blue and white striped shirt and his beloved non-khaki jeans, looking straight forward and moving quickly. We were all allowed in shortly thereafter. There werent many non-media people inside the courtroom, maybe 10-15. Quite a few empty seats. My heart was beating so fast, so much of yesterday. I sat three seats in, and could see PF from there. Unsure of where SF sat. Kindof tunnel vision at this point, nervous. As the verdict was read, and the jurors were asked if this was true, it never crossed my mind to look over at PF. I watched every juror say "yes" "yes" "yes" "yes" and I wanted to scream or hug or highfive but it remained quiet and classy as Kelsey and her family always are, and my heart was beating so fast for the victory and justice. The media started getting up and leaving, which I thought meant it was over, so I left too (stupid move, I wouldve loved to be there for victim statements). I went outside and waited with others for PF to come to the side, but as you all saw, they blocked off the view and that was really annoying.
Wow! Thanks for the report. What an experience. Could you tell if the jury showed any emotion at all?

Not a stupid move to leave at all, I don't think any of us really realized that victim impact statements and sentencing was going to take place immediately. I could be wrong, but I didn't get the sense the media knew that in advance either.
 
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The bolded is making my heart break for Baby K.

Can you imagine such anguish from a grandparent, who's lost her daughter, hearing that from her granddaughter?

That poor baby girl. Calling for her Mama in the middle of the night- she went from two parents raising her, to MaF's with Patrick, then to the Berreth's warm, loving and safe home, which was frightening and confusing her her, being alone. I don't know how well she knew Kelsey's family, but being just a baby, they could have been like strangers to her, where they lived so far away and didn't see her often. She was just barely a year old when Kelsey was killed, and she pretty much only had her parents and MaF in her life, in terms of adults that she trusted.

Hopefully darling Baby K is adjusting well.

I have in my heart that she will indeed (Baby K) be surrounded by so much love. By her new family, including doting uncle and his partner forever more showering her with all she needs to grow up to be a wonderful young lady and woman.
 
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The coffee delivery happened in Sept around 9pm -- I don't think it was chilly though.

And who delivers coffee after dark? Somebody that wanted to "size KB up." I think KK was dying of curiosity to see KB face to face. MOO
And not only who delivers coffee after dark, aside from the fact that a random weirdo lady showed up at your front doorstep after dark, who would even want to drink caffeine before bedtime??
 
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I have only quickly looked at a pinterest once before so I know nothing about how it works (other than @PommyMommy says that is how she keeps up with trials and information lol).

Are all of these thing what she purposefully posted? I'm not a member and cannot see or understand, do they have dates attached?

Wow, how moving all of them were. So insightful and thanks for sharing.
If you select "PINS" instead of "BOARDS"
You will see the order in which she pinned things.
The dates on the pins are not always correct, because people repin things.

Think about a long time ago. We had jokes at work that were "faxed" to us.
We would copy it and hand out to everyone.
I had a file folder of jokes.
My favorite was a worm in a knot with a "Charley horse"!
I have it here somewhere, but even a "Google" search can't find it.

So, anyway,
It's like clipping an article and giving it someone who then passes it to a friend, but saved in Pinterest on a board to save paper, you don't have a tangible file, just a digital one.
Moo
 
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Ooo! I think you might be the newest shiny person in my life!
I have a polish drawer, it smells so bad when I open it I about pass out!
I have maybe 30 bottles in there.
A room?
Like your own "me" and my nails?
Go you!
I'm going to keep reading, hopefully we will find out her favorite color!
I'll paint mine as well!
I'd love to see a picture of your room! (If you want to share privately!!)

They should paint JF's nails every week until he dies.
That's the kind of thing that drives a narcissist crazy!
I also wish that Cheryl's letter was painted on the walls of cell!
Moo
Oh wow! I thought I was the only nail polish obsessed WS'er. I only have about 80 bottles though. :rolleyes: I'd love to know Kelsey's favorite color too and will paint mine that color along with the rest of you!
 
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Please tell me Sam didn't say that KB couldn't get her nails done because PF said only 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 do that. ? :eek:

Did you hear that @MassGuy? MOO

I figured it out. PF is a time traveler from the Old West. It explains him completely. His views on women, his abuse of animals, his ignorance about how technology works... Thank God we live in 2019 and not 1876, or else PF might have gotten away with his heinous crimes. I'm so pleased that Kelsey's murderer will never again see freedom. #JusticeforKelsey has been served. I remain hopeful that they will find her remains too.

MOO.
 
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Wow! Thanks for the report. What an experience. Could you tell if the jury showed any emotion at all?

Not a stupid move to leave at all, I don't think any of us really realized that victim impact statements and sentencing was going to take place immediately. I could be wrong, but I didn't get the sense the media knew that in advance either.

I was equally surprised! In fact, I'd hoped there would be a motion filed to allow cameras at PF's sentencing where we could also hear the impact statements. Later I heard Sam (fb live recap) say he stayed in the courtroom after the verdict because his network had received a heads-up the Court was going to immediately sentence PF. I don't think many reporters were inside the courtroom for sentencing. MOO
 
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Q on Sam's twitter

Was this one of the photos admitted during the trial?

A from Sam Sam Kraemer
@SamKraemerTV
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1m
Yes. For some reason it wasn't initially in the jury's possession when they received the evidence

E.D. Not sure what photo, assume of him entering KB's townhome?

Sam Kraemer (@SamKraemerTV) | Twitter

ETA he just clarified after another question

Replying to @SamKraemerTV
Are you talking about the photo that defense used in closing statement, debating if there was room for tote?

Sam Kraemer
@SamKraemerTV
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1m
Yes, that’s exactly it

ETA #2 - If someone can explain how to post tweets so it shows formatting like @PommyMommy and others do, please explain as the formatting above is awful, sorry
 
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GOOD MORNING! Like @AgeofAquaruis , I slept like a baby and woke up feeling much better. Yesterday was a long one for me-- glad you all encouraged me to go, bc I am typically a very shy person.

A few things I didnt get to mention as it was so busy, service was lousy, and I going thru the thread it seems like the site was being slow.

It seemed there were a few folks sitting on SF side outside the courtroom, while she read. Although I have not seen her in person, (just tv, tweets, etc) it appears as though she has lost a lot of weight. Stone cold face still, though. A couple, a man with a beard, and maybe a lawyer. Not sure if they were there with her or not, bc she did not talk to them, but everyone seemed to be far away.

People started getting up and walking toward the courtroom door, circling and waiting. This is when WS started giving me problems. An officer split the crowd to make room for PF coming up. He mustve came thru the elevator, bc all of a sudden I look to my right and he is walking right next to me, noone in between. The same stone-cold squint and purced lips as his mother, in Blue and white striped shirt and his beloved non-khaki jeans, looking straight forward and moving quickly. We were all allowed in shortly thereafter. There werent many non-media people inside the courtroom, maybe 10-15. Quite a few empty seats. My heart was beating so fast, so much of yesterday. I sat three seats in, and could see PF from there. Unsure of where SF sat. Kindof tunnel vision at this point, nervous. As the verdict was read, and the jurors were asked if this was true, it never crossed my mind to look over at PF. I watched every juror say "yes" "yes" "yes" "yes" and I wanted to scream or hug or highfive but it remained quiet and classy as Kelsey and her family always are, and my heart was beating so fast for the victory and justice. The media started getting up and leaving, which I thought meant it was over, so I left too (stupid move, I wouldve loved to be there for victim statements). I went outside and waited with others for PF to come to the side, but as you all saw, they blocked off the view and that was really annoying.

“He mustve came thru the elevator, bc all of a sudden I look to my right and he is walking right next to me, noone in between.”

I would burn some sage if I were you. Not kidding. That’s some dark mojo to be near.
 
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And God Bless Sam -- he's still responding to inquiries about this case. It appears that the jury requested to see a photo of PF entering the condo during deliberations only because it was somehow omitted from photos they'd been given.

Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV
Sam Kraemer Retweeted ******

Yes. For some reason it wasn't initially in the jury's possession when they received the evidence
10:14 AM - 19 Nov 2019
 
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I heard him say that, too, when I listened to the press conference. I still have the goosebumps from hearing him say that. To me, there's more to this- they don't think that this was all fluff, but a real threat to them. Even though the trial is over, it doesn't mean some sicko out there won't attempt on Patrick's behalf to go after one or two.
The coffee delivery happened in Sept around 9pm -- I don't think it was chilly though.

And who delivers coffee after dark? Somebody that wanted to "size KB up." I think KK was dying of curiosity to see KB face to face. MOO
Like Snow White's stepmother with the poison apple... :/
 
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“He mustve came thru the elevator, bc all of a sudden I look to my right and he is walking right next to me, noone in between.”

I would burn some sage if I were you. Not kidding. That’s some dark mojo to be near.

Good idea. It was heavy. Though I am feeling much better today.
 
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The bolded is making my heart break for Baby K.

Can you imagine such anguish from a grandparent, who's lost her daughter, hearing that from her granddaughter?

That poor baby girl. Calling for her Mama in the middle of the night- she went from two parents raising her, to MaF's with Patrick, then to the Berreth's warm, loving and safe home, which was frightening and confusing her her, being alone. I don't know how well she knew Kelsey's family, but being just a baby, they could have been like strangers to her, where they lived so far away and didn't see her often. She was just barely a year old when Kelsey was killed, and she pretty much only had her parents and MaF in her life, in terms of adults that she trusted.

Hopefully darling Baby K is adjusting well.
The Berreth's saw Baby K in October, the month prior to her murder, when they were in Colorado for her birthday. None of the Frazee's attended her party (except PF, I think) but I don't recall whether or not they were invited. MOO
 
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Now we wait to see of any charges are brought forth in the “hit list” and anything to do with bonding out a fellow prisoner. I think it may happen but will be some time.

thank you everyone for tweets, comments and answering questions.....now off to the dentist.
 
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