CO CO - Kelsie Schelling, 21, pregnant, Pueblo, 4 Feb 2013 *Arrest*

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Donthe Lucas trial will stay in Pueblo

PUEBLO – A judge has denied a motion from attorneys for Donthe Lucas to change the location of his murder trial in the death of Kelsie Schelling in 2013.

Other motions brought up in Friday’s hearing questioned some of the prosecution’s witnesses, and brought up introducing lie detectors tests and showing Kelsie’s medical record.

“It is a really exhausting process,” said Laura Saxton, Kelsie’s mother. “I think every time we do it it is like you’re thankful for something to be going on not just being in limbo, but it is you know a very tiring process but it is nice to have some progress made.

Lucas is due back in court on July 30th ad his trial is set for January 2020.
 
  • #882
Now that we have "justice" for Kelsey Berreth, hoping we get justice for this Kelsie as well.

There was a hearing today, but once again they are keeping this case and evidence very hush hush.

Public held out of court for latest Donthe Lucas hearing - KRDO

Pre-trial motions hearings for Donthe Lucas' case continued Monday, but almost nobody was allowed to be present for it.

For this hearing, everyone except for the defense, prosecutors and the judge were kept out of the courtroom when the hearing began at 1:15 pm.

The judge said the information discussed during today’s hearing could potentially taint a jury. This isn't the first time the judge has kept members of the press and public out of a motions hearing pertaining to Donthe Lucas' case.

Lucas' trial is scheduled to begin in January of 2020. Lucas has been charged with first-degree murder in connection to the disappearance of his pregnant girlfriend, 21-year-old Kelsie Schelling.
 
  • #883
Donthe Lucas back in court on Monday

Nov 18, 2019

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PUEBLO — Donthe Lucas, the man who is accused of killing his pregnant girlfriend, will be in court on Monday.

Lucas has pleaded not guilty to first-degree murder charges.

The trial was originally set for late July, but Lucas' lawyers say the have new scientific evidence and more time is needed.

[...]

The murder trial for Lucas is set for January 2020 and last approximately one month.
 
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Defense attorney for Donthe Lucas tries to step off Kelsie Schelling case

PUEBLO, Colo. (KKTV) - UPDATE 11/22/19:
The defense attorney for a man accused of killing his pregnant girlfriend in Colorado back in 2013 is trying to step away from the case. The announcement came in court during a hearing on Friday. The attorney is one of two representing Lucas and asked the judge to be dismissed from the case, as of 3:30 p.m. on Friday the judge had not granted the request.



Donthe Lucas is charged with the 2013 disappearance of his then-girlfriend Kelsie Schelling. The court decided to add another hearing this week because the judge needs more time to decide what can or can't be used in the upcoming trial. Now that one attorney for Lucas put in a request to step away, another motions hearing was scheduled for Monday. It isn't clear if this will change the scheduled trial date, again.
 
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Defense attorney for Donthe Lucas tries to step off Kelsie Schelling case

PUEBLO, Colo. (KKTV) - UPDATE 11/22/19:
The defense attorney for a man accused of killing his pregnant girlfriend in Colorado back in 2013 is trying to step away from the case. The announcement came in court during a hearing on Friday. The attorney is one of two representing Lucas and asked the judge to be dismissed from the case, as of 3:30 p.m. on Friday the judge had not granted the request.



Donthe Lucas is charged with the 2013 disappearance of his then-girlfriend Kelsie Schelling. The court decided to add another hearing this week because the judge needs more time to decide what can or can't be used in the upcoming trial. Now that one attorney for Lucas put in a request to step away, another motions hearing was scheduled for Monday. It isn't clear if this will change the scheduled trial date, again.
:mad::mad::mad: I just saw this when seeking kktv.com to KB trial videos. How awful for KS family.
 
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Defense attorney for Donthe Lucas tries to step off Kelsie Schelling case

PUEBLO, Colo. (KKTV) - UPDATE 11/22/19:
The defense attorney for a man accused of killing his pregnant girlfriend in Colorado back in 2013 is trying to step away from the case. The announcement came in court during a hearing on Friday. The attorney is one of two representing Lucas and asked the judge to be dismissed from the case, as of 3:30 p.m. on Friday the judge had not granted the request.



Donthe Lucas is charged with the 2013 disappearance of his then-girlfriend Kelsie Schelling. The court decided to add another hearing this week because the judge needs more time to decide what can or can't be used in the upcoming trial. Now that one attorney for Lucas put in a request to step away, another motions hearing was scheduled for Monday. It isn't clear if this will change the scheduled trial date, again.

(Marking spot)

(Thanks for the update. Not in the mood to get my blood pressure up atm.)
 
  • #888
Defense attorney for Donthe Lucas tries to step off Kelsie Schelling case

PUEBLO, Colo. (KKTV) - UPDATE 11/22/19:
The defense attorney for a man accused of killing his pregnant girlfriend in Colorado back in 2013 is trying to step away from the case. The announcement came in court during a hearing on Friday. The attorney is one of two representing Lucas and asked the judge to be dismissed from the case, as of 3:30 p.m. on Friday the judge had not granted the request.



Donthe Lucas is charged with the 2013 disappearance of his then-girlfriend Kelsie Schelling. The court decided to add another hearing this week because the judge needs more time to decide what can or can't be used in the upcoming trial. Now that one attorney for Lucas put in a request to step away, another motions hearing was scheduled for Monday. It isn't clear if this will change the scheduled trial date, again.

Thanks for the article. I hadn't seen hair belonging to his mother was found in Kelsey's vehicle.

Originally, the trial was scheduled for April of 2019, but new evidence was found in the case over the summer. Schelling's attorneys said investigators found a 6-inch hair in the back of Schelling's trunk. After DNA testing, investigators found the hair to be the same as Sara Lucas, Donthe's mother.
 
  • #889
Thanks for the article. I hadn't seen hair belonging to his mother was found in Kelsey's vehicle.

I agree with the prosecutor that SL hair in the trunk of KS vehicle was of no surprise and sorry that defense was able to garner yet one more trial delay for an expert to examine the hair evidence.

KS family has lived through 3 trial delays and with defense attorney seeking to withdraw from case I'm not counting on the five-week jury trial beginning Jan. 14, 2020 at 8:30 a.m.
 
  • #890
I hate this.

Donthe Lucas trial for murder of Kelsie Schelling pushed back a 3rd time

During a court appearance on Wednesday, the family of Kelsie Schelling learned the murder trial for Donthe Lucas would be pushed back a third time.

One of the defense lawyers for Lucas withdrew from the trial. The current team of three lawyers for Lucas did not feel prepared for a trial that was already rescheduled in January. The new trial date is slated for May 5 and is expected to last about five weeks.
 
  • #891
I hate this.

Donthe Lucas trial for murder of Kelsie Schelling pushed back a 3rd time

During a court appearance on Wednesday, the family of Kelsie Schelling learned the murder trial for Donthe Lucas would be pushed back a third time.

One of the defense lawyers for Lucas withdrew from the trial. The current team of three lawyers for Lucas did not feel prepared for a trial that was already rescheduled in January. The new trial date is slated for May 5 and is expected to last about five weeks.

Donthe Lucas and Mark Redwine both. Nobody’s forgotten about Kelsie and Dylan and we will still be here with bells on to see them rot whenever the time comes. Doesn’t matter if it’s tomorrow or two years.
 
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  • #892
Donthe Lucas and Mark Redwine both. Nobody’s forgotten about Kelsie and Dylan and we will still be here with bells on to see them rot whenever the time comes. Doesn’t matter if it’s tomorrow or two years.

These Creeps are slowly being cornered, and once we have guilty verdicts, their pathetic lives are on a downhill path, in Prison with fellow inmates.
MOO.
 
  • #893
Carl Winder KOAA‏ @CWinderKOAA
DONTHE LUCAS CASE MOVED TO MAY 5TH: Lucas is accused of killing Kelsie Schelling back in Feb. 2013. The case got moved because the court felt the lawyers for Lucas aren’t prepared to defend Lucas in January. A new lawyer for Lucas was brought on last month. @KOAA

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3:02 PM - 4 Dec 2019
 
  • #894
Carl Winder KOAA‏ @CWinderKOAA
DONTHE LUCAS CASE MOVED TO MAY 5TH: Lucas is accused of killing Kelsie Schelling back in Feb. 2013. The case got moved because the court felt the lawyers for Lucas aren’t prepared to defend Lucas in January. A new lawyer for Lucas was brought on last month. @KOAA

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3:02 PM - 4 Dec 2019
Its quite unfortunate and frankly unfair that the system can continue to be manipulated in this way.

Too bad the Judge from the Berreth trial can't be put on loan to Pueblo to sort this entire mess out as it appears to be in shambles.

I don't understand if the Defense atty's are private or Court appointed? Regardless of who is funding the Defense, it seems that more than enough time has passed to mount a defense.

MOO
 
  • #895
Its quite unfortunate and frankly unfair that the system can continue to be manipulated in this way.

Too bad the Judge from the Berreth trial can't be put on loan to Pueblo to sort this entire mess out as it appears to be in shambles.

I don't understand if the Defense atty's are private or Court appointed? Regardless of who is funding the Defense, it seems that more than enough time has passed to mount a defense.

MOO
One of DL's public defender's asked Judge to remove him off this case at last hearing (11/22/19)!

It appears his request granted and now another excuse to push the trial off from Jan 14 to May 5, 2020. :mad:
 
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The trial was scheduled to start in April 2019, but new evidence found in the case over the summer postponed it until January 2020. Police said because the investigation remains active, they cannot provide details on what led to the arrest. Police told Dateline they have not found Kelsie’s remains.

Six years of Dateline's Missing in America: 134 still missing
 
  • #897
The trial was scheduled to start in April 2019, but new evidence found in the case over the summer postponed it until January 2020. Police said because the investigation remains active, they cannot provide details on what led to the arrest. Police told Dateline they have not found Kelsie’s remains.

Six years of Dateline's Missing in America: 134 still missing

Hopefully his mother will get arrested for her hair being in Kelsie's car
 
  • #898
I agree with the prosecutor that SL hair in the trunk of KS vehicle was of no surprise and sorry that defense was able to garner yet one more trial delay for an expert to examine the hair evidence.

KS family has lived through 3 trial delays and with defense attorney seeking to withdraw from case I'm not counting on the five-week jury trial beginning Jan. 14, 2020 at 8:30 a.m.


Hopefully his mother will get arrested for her hair being in Kelsie's car


I'm not sure if the interpretation is correct on the hair anyway. The direct quote from the article said
"Schelling's attorneys said investigators found a 6-inch hair in the back of Schelling's trunk. After DNA testing, investigators found the hair to be the same as Sara Lucas, Donthe's mother."

Could it be assumed the hair did not have a root follicle, so they had to do mitochondrial DNA. Therefore, the hair would be the same as his mother's?

Yet I agree with others, why does it matter because that his hair in her trunk might be expected and I don't see what the significance is other than a reason to delay the trial for no reason. Again, assuming that the mitochondrial DNA testing was the only thing available for that hair.

Donthe Lucas trial for murder of Kelsie Schelling pushed back a 3rd time

ETA reconsideration because it was a 6in hair and his hair was shorter at the time? I guess we'll have to wait to see if it was full DNA profile vs. Mitochondrial.
 
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  • #899
I'm not sure if anyone caught this, but Donthe was seen getting getting into his mother's car. Maybe the person in the stills from Wal-Mart are not of a man, but a woman?
SBM
For example, she explained that the video showed Lucas climbing out of her daughter’s car and walking to the back of the car and climbing into his mother’s vehicle.

Denver woman disappears after sending ultrasound to boyfriend

I have been away from this thread for so long, I did not get the significance of the hair. This morning I took the time to start of the very very beginning of this thread and going through it entirely. Now I understand the significance of the hair. And why a post from June 4th, 2014 above-mentioned the mother.

"In an interview with The Denver Post, Saxton revealed many details that have never been discussed publicly.

For example, she explained that the video showed Lucas climbing out of her daughter’s car and walking to the back of the car and climbing into his mother’s vehicle.

The car remained overnight. At 7:20 a.m. the next morning a man wearing sunglasses, gloves and a hoodie came out from behind the Walmart, walked directly to Kelsie’s car, opened the door, climbed in and immediately drove away."

Thank goodness for this site where I can go back from a start and pick up on stuff that I totally had missed because I have not been following it and got sidetracked.

Denver woman disappears after sending ultrasound to boyfriend

ETA finding @spamelope post, who kept This Thread updated so much thank you! You are a very good soul

RSBM
Ties to East St Louis area. In the Post article, it was said "mother's car." I have it on good authority it's not hers, it is his.
 
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I love your sig! It's so true!



Link to law suit; plus grabbed a little bit of the text

Case 1:15-cv-00255-MJW Document 1 Filed 02/05/15 USDC Colorado

IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
FOR THE DISTRICT OF COLORADO
Civil Action No. 15-cv-255
LAURA SAXTON and
DOUG SCHELLING, as the surviving parent of Kelsie Schelling, decedent.

DONTHE LUCAS,
DAWN SHAY LUCAS,
DETECTIVE NEAL ROBINSON, in his individual capacity,
SERGEANT KEN ESPINOZA, in his individual capacity,
DEPUTY POLICE CHIEF ANDREW McLACHLAN, in his individual capacity, and
CITY OF PUEBLO, COLORADO,

COMPLAINT FOR DAMAGES AND JURY DEMAND

Plaintiffs, above-named, by and through its counsel, Lonn M. Heymann of Lonn
Heymann Law Firm, P.C., for their Complaint for Damages and Jury Demand hereby
allege as follows:

INTRODUCTION

1. This is a civil rights action for damages resulting from the deprivation of
civil rights under color of law. Kelsie Schelling’s parents, Laura Saxton and Doug
Schelling (herein referred to collectively as “Plaintiffs”), seek damages, declaratory, and
injunctive relief to remedy the deprivation of their right of access to courts by the City of
Pueblo, Colorado, Detective Neal Robinson, Sergeant Ken Espinoza, and Deputy Police
Chief Andrew McLachlan (herein referred to collectively as “Pueblo Police Department
Defendants”). Plaintiff’s also state a claim for wrongful death against Donthe Lucas, Sara
Lucas, Vivian Lucas, and Dawn Shay Lucas (herein referred to collectively as “Lucas

2. Plaintiffs seek relief for the Pueblo Police Department Defendants’
deliberate interference with their right to file a wrongful death lawsuit in Colorado
District Court, pursuant to Colorado Wrongful Death Act, C.R.S. § 13-21-201, et seq., by
refusing to open and investigate a criminal case arising from the death and disappearance
of Kelsie Schelling on or about February 5, 2013, in Pueblo, Colorado, by tampering with
or destroying evidence material to any wrongful death claim, by deliberately disregarding
compelling leads and evidence pointing to the homicide of Kelsie Schelling by Donthe
Lucas, with whom Kelsie Schelling had driven from Denver to Pueblo to discuss her
pregnancy with his child.

FACTUAL BACKGROUND

9. Kelsie Schelling (herein “Kelsie”) was feloniously killed on or about
February 5, 2013 by Donthe Lucas. The Lucas Defendants conspired with or acted as an
Case 1:15-cv-00255-MJW Document 1 Filed 02/05/15 USDC Colorado Page 4 of 21

10. Kelsie’s disappearance occurred after she was “coaxed” into traveling to
Pueblo Colorado on February 4, 2013 by Donthe Lucas (Father of Kelsie’s child) and his
mother Sara Lucas. Kelsie attended medical appointment in Denver during the morning
hours of February 4 and confirmed that she was two months pregnant with Donthe
Lucas’s child. Communications between Kelsie, Donthe and Sara Lucas via text
messages and phones calls indicates that Donthe and Sara sent a plethora of messages
trying to convince Kelsie to travel to Pueblo before attending her Doctors appointment.
Kelsie however elected to wait and attended the medical appointment and confirmed she
was in fact pregnant before traveling to meet with Donthe and his mother. After the
Doctor’s appointment Kelsie returned to work and finished the work-day before traveling

11. At 11:20p.m. on the evening of February 4, 2013, Kelsie arrived at the
Wal-Mart at 4080 West Northern, Pueblo, Colorado to meet Donthe as directed by him.
Donthe was not at Wal-Mart and kept stalling for time through text messages before
directing her to another unknown location. At 12:32 a.m., in the early morning hours of
February 5, 2013 Kelsie sent Donthe a text message wanting to know where he was at,
complaining that she had been waiting for over an hour for him. That was the last
confirmed message that will indicate that Kelsie was alive. At 3:54 a.m. Donthe calls
Kelsie's cell phone. According to cellular tower pings and triangulation, Donthe and
Kelsie’s cell phones where in a very close proximity of each other and concluded that
Donthe had no reason to call the Kelsie’s phone. The theory is that Kelsie had been
murdered before this call was made and that the call was made to Kelsie’s phone to locate

12. Throughout the rest of the night various text messages were
communicated between Kelsie’s cell phone and Donthe’s cell phone. An analysis of text
verbiage from Kelsie’s phone after the 3:54A.M. time period, would indicate that the
messages where not being typed by Kelsie and the wording, spelling and type of verbiage
used was not close to the traditional verbiage used in previous messages. The content of
the messages made no sense and were out of context.

13. At 11:39 a.m., on February 5, 2013, Donthe Lucas travels to Canon
National Bank in Pueblo, driving Kelsie’s 2011 Black Chevrolet Cruze and withdraws
$400.00 cash from the ATM with Kelsie’s ATM card. Surveillance video clearly shows
that that Donthe Lucas is driving the car and that Kelsie is not present.

14. Donthe Lucas is then observed by surveillance video parking Kelsie’s car
at the Wal-Mart parking lot, located at 4080 West Northern Avenue in Pueblo. Donthe
exits the car and walks to the rear of the store where he was picked up by his mother,
Sara Lucas, and grandmother, Vivian Lucas. For the next 18 hours, Kelsie’s car sits in the
same parked position. No one else exits the car or enters the car until February 6, 2013 at
7:20 a.m. when an African-American male walks directly to the car from the same
walking path that Donthe Lucas takes to leave the car from the rear of the store. That
male was accompanied in another vehicle by Dawn Shay Lucas who acted as a lookout.
Case 1:15-cv-00255-MJW Document 1 Filed 02/05/15 USDC Colorado Page 6 of 21

15. Immediately following the evident criminal conduct toward Kelsie
Schelling, her family, Plaintiffs, filed a missing person’s report and sought the assistance
of law enforcement, including the Pueblo Police Department, and the media.

16. As of February 5, 2015, there is no record listed within the Pueblo Police
Departments online records data-base that Kelsie Schelling’s disappearance has ever been
logged as an open investigation assigned with a Pueblo Police Department case number.
There has never been a Pueblo Police Department Case File Number identified to
Kelsie’s family or to the Investigators that the family has privately hired.

17. The Pueblo Police failed to retrieve evidence from the Denver Police
Department to be submitted to the Colorado Crime Laboratory to obtain DNA
classification required to be submitted into a National data-base. Over a year later, these
items were not processed for DNA.

...

:bump:

Again, catching up on the threads and this is a fabulous post as to information to catch up.

Click on above to expand.

"14. Donthe Lucas is then observed by surveillance video parking Kelsie’s car
at the Wal-Mart parking lot, located at 4080 West Northern Avenue in Pueblo. Donthe
exits the car and walks to the rear of the store where he was picked up by his mother,
Sara Lucas, and grandmother, Vivian Lucas."

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6slmuQoMVK3QkkzZUwxWmJERHM/view?hc_location=ufi

Link to lawsuit

41. Although Sara Lucas was regularly late paying her rent prior to February
of 2013, she started to pay her rent promptly in February of 2013. In September of 2013,
Sara Lucas’s landlord received notice that the utilities in her rental home were turned off.
He found that the house was vacated and trashed. Sara Lucas appears to have vacated her
Pueblo residence some months prior to September of 2013 because maggots covered the
kitchen and soiled laundry throughout the house. The landlord arranged for the required
repairs, including replacement of the carpet. When the carpet was pulled up in the living
room, the bottom was soaked with a substance that appeared to be blood, with several
drops leading from the living room and pooling in a closet. The landlord notified the
Pueblo Police Department and offered to give them access to the house. Although the
police would not investigate the scene at that time, the landlord waited several weeks for
the Pueblo Police Department to collect the carpet. When the landlord offered to bring
the carpet to the Pueblo Police Department, he was instructed not to bring the carpet.
Unaware of the entire matter that is the subject of this case, the landlord eventually
disposed of the carpet. After Detective Robinson contacted the landlord in January of
2014, the Pueblo Police Department decided not to conduct a further investigation on the
alleged blood found in Sara Lucas’s residence, although traces of blood could plausibly
be located to this date. The Pueblo Police Department Defendant’s shocking indifference
to securing the carpet or remaining biological traces at the former residence of Donthe
and Sara Lucas demonstrated the intentional abandonment of clearly inculpatory
evidence that is material to any criminal investigation of the disappearance and death of
Kelsie Schelling and to Plaintiffs’ wrongful death case against the Lucases
 
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